01-21-2011 09:23 AM
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  1. VernonEL's Avatar
    Good question! I know so many people are anti-T9 but I actually got super efficient with it on my original HTC Touch.
    LOL!!

    Me too!
    I bet next your gonna tell me you could text on a touch screen without looking at the screen!
    01-18-2011 12:15 PM
  2. selfcreation's Avatar
    LOL!!

    Me too!
    I bet next your gonna tell me you could text on a touch screen without looking at the screen!

    lol i can do that , dont guaranty perfect typing but yeah. lol

    Txting and driving makes you learn fast :P but not suggested :P LOL!
    01-18-2011 12:30 PM
  3. VernonEL's Avatar
    Yeah, it's amazing what one can learn under the right circumstances. I never thought I'd be able to do it. The last year or so I've had a hands-free visor clip so I'm back to using voice primarily again.

    Pesky things called age and maturity.
    01-18-2011 12:41 PM
  4. spitothec's Avatar
    Bold does not have: Tab, control, and arrow keys, and does not have dedicated keys for comma, period, and numbers. Bold will not: Allow you to hold function, like for typing in SSNs or addresses, you have to press "alt" between every character. Same thing for "all caps".
    You can hold down Alt with your left thumb and type entirely in numbers/punctuation with your right thumb. Caps-Lock, or "all caps" is turned on by pressing left-Alt then right-Shift. It's turned off the same way.

    At least that's the way it's worked on my 4 BlackBerrys..
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    01-18-2011 07:39 PM
  5. VernonEL's Avatar
    You can hold down Alt with your left thumb and type entirely in numbers/punctuation with your right thumb. Caps-Lock, or "all caps" is turned on by pressing left-Alt then right-Shift. It's turned off the same way.
    Thanks!! I figured if it was possible, someone here would know how to do it!
    01-18-2011 09:14 PM
  6. DontHate707's Avatar
    get a palm webos phone wtf rim is good for work but palm is better.
    wp7 has office but it doesnt have as much features for business yet.
    just wait for next month when palm has its announcement and see what u like or MWC might introduce new wp7 devices i mean u never know...
    01-18-2011 10:41 PM
  7. Rico's Avatar
    I know hardware keyboards aren't sexy, but I like having them for anything longer than a quick text session. I've gotten used to the Focus' keyboard, but I'd kill to have something like my Moto Q9h, Nokia E72, or even my old Fuze, but with Windows Phone 7. The problem with the keyboard isn't just the fact that it's virtual, but that on screen elements are small, which makes editing words tricky. My Captivate, which has the same size screen, has a larger landscape keyboard than my Focus, the latter having an app button and status bar on the sides of the screen eating up precious space. I've gotten decent at the keyboard and feel more confident using it in portrait, but I don't feel as confident as when I used any of the other devices I mentioned. It seems iPhone users love the keyboard.

    Also, the lack of copy and paste is really starting to get to me. Last night I needed to quickly copy my contact details from one email to another, and despite realizing that there was no copy and paste, I futily tried to select the details in an even more futile effort to copy and paste them. When I couldn't do that, I decided I'd just try to call the my contact, whose number was in the same email. I tapped on the number which was formatted as most phone numbers are, and nothing happened. Fortunately, I was by a computer so I just signed into my Gmail account and took care of things there, but I shouldn't have to do that. Things like that are killing the business use case for WP7 for me, which is a shame because the email app is excellent, and pretty much everything else about the Focus and Windows Phone 7 in general is great.

    By the time your Focus arrives, we should be getting the update soon. I'd use it for a couple of weeks but realize you may end up selling it for a device with a keyboard.

    And to whomever asked, no, there's no way to use the phone keyboard. Tthe app uses whatever keyboard is assigned to a particular field. And given the expansive dictionary, I'm not sure T9 would be as effective for blind typing as on other platforms.
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    01-19-2011 09:21 AM
  8. VernonEL's Avatar
    Also, the lack of copy and paste is really starting to get to me. Last night I needed to quickly copy my contact details from one email to another, and despite realizing that there was no copy and paste, I futily tried to select the details in an even more futile effort to copy and paste them. When I couldn't do that, I decided I'd just try to call the my contact, whose number was in the same email. I tapped on the number which was formatted as most phone numbers are, and nothing happened. Fortunately, I was by a computer so I just signed into my Gmail account and took care of things there, but I shouldn't have to do that. Things like that are killing the business use case for WP7 for me, which is a shame because the email app is excellent, and pretty much everything else about the Focus and Windows Phone 7 in general is great.

    And to whomever asked, no, there's no way to use the phone keyboard. Tthe app uses whatever keyboard is assigned to a particular field. And given the expansive dictionary, I'm not sure T9 would be as effective for blind typing as on other platforms.
    Rico,
    Thanks for the in-depth insight.
    I totally agree about the C&P. For those people that say they don't find a use for it, I can only imagine that they do not use their devices for much more than gaming. I really got great use out of the feature on WinMo, and was very disappointed to hear we needed an update to get it on WP.
    Bummer about the singular text entry. Using fewer (8 to 11) virtual keys could greatly reduce "fat-fingering".
    01-20-2011 04:06 PM
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    01-21-2011 09:23 AM
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