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  1. Rallicat's Avatar
    Whilst listening this week's episode of the 'TWiT' Windows Weekly Podcast, Paul Thurrott revealed some information as to what it is about the 1.4 that makes it different in comparison to the other revisions.

    What he said was "I can't tell you who told me this .. just suffice to say it was someone at Microsoft. One of the big questions about Windows Phone and Updates involves this Samsung Focus 1.4 version firmware, and as all these updates come out that's the one version of the Samsung Focus that never gets updated, and everybody wonders why. What I was told -and I was actualyl kinda fascinated by this- the differences between a 1.4 focus and the other revisions of the product, is almost infintesimly small, in fact it boils down to a single certificate inside the device that somehow manages to screw everything up. so it's not actually a dramatically different device from a hardware perspective, it's literally a cert inside that is screwing things up somehow. I don't know if it's ever gonna be fixed beyond 7.5 if they can get those updates out faster or whatever [...] it's apparently not a huge deal but it is causing big problems."

    They go on to discuss this a little more- but that's the main segment of interest. If you want to have a listen, on the audio version of the podcast it's at about 19.09.

    Their (novel) suggestion for getting around the issue is basically to complain to the operator, and see if you can get yourself a replacement Focus of a different revision.

    Windows Weekly | TWiT.TV
    11-11-2011 03:18 PM
  2. GekkoAce's Avatar
    Stillll waiting.. I will never buy another Samsung phone again.
    11-11-2011 03:26 PM
  3. enahs555's Avatar
    It may just be a certificate issue. But, and they might work on that after the majority gets the updates, which is fine. But, the thing is, 1.4's not in the US have had the update for a while now actually.

    What I suspect that it really is, is that the minor fix they had to do, they got it done in a short period of time. But, it then was ready when Apple was releasing the updates for the iPhone, and ATT wanted that to go as smooth as can be so they are not releasing the Focus update until the majority of people get their Apple update, to not clog their servers and such.

    Because they have essentially said the update has been done for a while now, and that it is in "testing" phase.
    psychotron likes this.
    11-11-2011 08:10 PM
  4. irfan intekhab's Avatar
    i have done a whole lot of research on this and i read alot of places people with 1.4 are on mango already. BUT those which are unlocked from factory like people who bought from dell. so even though we have unlocked att still there are some restrictions of them still remaining on our phone, if probably if removed we will be able to get to mango?
    11-13-2011 11:13 AM
  5. ab.grafix's Avatar
    i have done a whole lot of research on this and i read alot of places people with 1.4 are on mango already. BUT those which are unlocked from factory like people who bought from dell. so even though we have unlocked att still there are some restrictions of them still remaining on our phone, if probably if removed we will be able to get to mango?
    even i read the same , i even read someone suggesting to DEBRAND the phone so that it receives update. My phone is AT&T unlocked , im using in india. anyone know anything about debranding ??
    11-13-2011 12:39 PM
  6. LA6507a's Avatar
    I've been researching "De-branding" for a couple of days but my paramount concern is that the update that comes down after the procedure could be the RC2 version of Mango, instead. My phone is already unlocked but still has AT&T branding that I'd love nothing more than to remove. I want to know if a developer build of Mango gets pushed or not? As long as it is a fully functional OS then I'd guess it is fine.

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    11-13-2011 06:13 PM
  7. irfan intekhab's Avatar
    i did try debranding, i also moved till the stage where i got a notification that there is a mangk update! But then the damn thing would get stuck in the restarting ur device step which is step six. Then i realized the connect to pc thing (which you can go to by switching on the phone and holding the camera button) was messed up. I had to flash back to 7004 and update back to 7392. So ultumately it was a failure! :-( Maybe someone can tip me on this?
    11-13-2011 08:47 PM
  8. psychotron's Avatar
    Tired of waiting. I'm about ready to go into an AT&T store and demand a 1.3 in exchange for my wife's phone.
    11-13-2011 09:25 PM
  9. GekkoAce's Avatar
    Its fricken ridiculous its taking this long

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