12-06-2011 01:42 PM
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  1. gdubyacobb's Avatar
    Got a message from AT&T saying they had detected tethering on my phone. (I never used it for much before, but damit I need those 3 episodes of Breaking Bad). Anyway...
    Instead of confessing I played dumb when I called. The at&t person asked me all kinds of questions about possible ways I had tethered. When she asked if I had connected to a tv to watch Netflix I said yes. She well that would do it.
    She then said I could just stop doing it or she offered me a tethering package. I asked if my focus supported that. She said yes.
    I told her I didn't want to lose my grandfathered unlimited data plan, so I'd think about it but stop watching Netflix in the time being.
    Well I thought about and decided that if I could go on the up&up and tether I would.
    So I called and they said the focus would tether.
    So we changed my plan and then they switched me over to a tech to tell me how to do it.
    Tech says "the focus doesn't support tethering".
    Now they say they can't switch me back to my old unlimited.
    Moral of the story, never give up your old unlimited plan!
    11-17-2011 09:47 AM
  2. jeremyshaw's Avatar
    Yeah, they always looks for an excuse to get you off off of unlimited. ALWAYS.

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    11-17-2011 09:50 AM
  3. selfcreation's Avatar
    the focus does support tethering... if you dont have the update yet , there is a work around. if not the update should be coming soon.

    NEVER take to heart what a CARRIER rep say to you , tech or customer service 99% of the time they are idiots. they knwo the plans and the system. they dont know the actual phones

    even techs simply follow a step by step Trouble shooting that there computer tells them, you can be a completely technology illiterate and still be a tech . LOL
    11-17-2011 10:06 AM
  4. palandri's Avatar
    So did you actually connect your phone to your TV to watch Netflix?
    11-17-2011 10:08 AM
  5. jeremyshaw's Avatar
    Not possible on wp7, since no video out support.

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    11-17-2011 10:10 AM
  6. gdubyacobb's Avatar
    The "video out" alibi just seemed like my best plausible deniability.
    The funny thing is the the diagnostic/usb tethering was working for me after mango. But about two weeks ago I had to do a hard reset and its been on and off since then. Mostly off.
    11-17-2011 10:15 AM
  7. selfcreation's Avatar
    Not possible on wp7, since no video out support.

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    Hmmm,

    -you can connect your phone to your TV via WIFI if you have the multy media center on your TV.

    - and the new TV have NETFLIX build in , so you can connect your phone to the TV to do Tethering.
    11-17-2011 10:32 AM
  8. jeremyshaw's Avatar
    Hmmm,



    -you can connect your phone to your TV via WIFI if you have the multy media center on your TV.



    - and the new TV have NETFLIX build in , so you can connect your phone to the TV to do Tethering.
    doesn't work with Netflix +allshare on my focus and focus s.

    My tv (and I bet everyone else's) doesn't support USB internet access device.

    But I dont expect an att rep to know this.

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    11-17-2011 10:39 AM
  9. jeremyshaw's Avatar
    Also, ms does have in their demo devices, video out, for demonstration purposes, but they say it is not working well in many ways, so that's why we don't see it in our devices :(

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    11-17-2011 10:42 AM
  10. gdubyacobb's Avatar
    Isn't there a Bluetooth or WiFi way to share video between a Samsung tv and the Samsung focus?
    I remember someone mentioning it in a thread where I asked about an av out cable.
    11-17-2011 10:45 AM
  11. palandri's Avatar
    This all boils down to the "Net Neutrality" issue in the states.

    A few home cable providers wanted to charge Netflix for streaming video to peoples homes, or else they threatened to block their IP address.

    The FCC said home home cable couldn't do that, but they are allowing wireless carriers to do what they want.

    To a wireless carrier, "Net Neutrality" means no government interference.

    To the FCC, "Net Neutrality" means if you purchase 5GB of bandwidth, you should be able to use it however you see it.
    11-17-2011 10:50 AM
  12. jeremyshaw's Avatar
    Isn't there a Bluetooth or WiFi way to share video between a Samsung tv and the Samsung focus?
    I remember someone mentioning it in a thread where I asked about an av out cable.
    "AllShare," works only on new Samsung WP7 phones. Also only works for content you already have on your phone.
    11-17-2011 11:53 AM
  13. selfcreation's Avatar
    doesn't work with Netflix +allshare on my focus and focus s.

    My tv (and I bet everyone else's) doesn't support USB internet access device.

    But I dont expect an att rep to know this.

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    Netflix + allshare doesnt work for sure... Allshare just allows you to share Multimedia files. not actual applications ( like a TV output would simply just show you exactly what you see on your phone)

    some Tvs do , my buddy has a 3D Samsung Tv (1years+ old ) with internet access on it. that also support tethering.
    believe it or not but other technologies are actually playing catch up with WP. lol

    WP is set up for the ecosystem to all work together, but almost nothing supports it yet. hahaha
    11-17-2011 12:18 PM
  14. gdubyacobb's Avatar
    Update:
    At&t approved my switch back to the unlimited data plan. Very nice!:)
    I guess my renegade tethering days are behind me. I'll play it straight from now on.
    On the upside I had been tethering in small doses since I got my first razr back in '05, so really I can't complain.
    But if at&t ever turns on WP tethering I'll sign up and pay happily.
    11-17-2011 12:57 PM
  15. palandri's Avatar
    Update:
    At&t approved my switch back to the unlimited data plan. Very nice!:)
    I guess my renegade tethering days are behind me. I'll play it straight from now on.
    On the upside I had been tethering in small doses since I got my first razr back in '05, so really I can't complain.
    But if at&t ever turns on WP tethering I'll sign up and pay happily.
    That's good they switched you back. How much data do you normally use per month?

    I have 2GB through AT&T and I normally use up to 750MB a month. I don't have any reason tether. I have internet and wifi at home.
    11-17-2011 01:04 PM
  16. gdubyacobb's Avatar
    I am usually under 2gb.
    It was just the 3 or 4 episodes of Breaking Bad. They pushed me over 5.
    But we were traveling and I just had to see em. :|
    11-17-2011 01:27 PM
  17. pseudoware's Avatar
    Glad you were switched back. Did they mention what would happen if someone continues with their renegade tethering ways?


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    11-17-2011 01:45 PM
  18. gdubyacobb's Avatar
    The email I received and the original conversation said, if tethering continued I would automatically be switched to the 4gb tethering plan.
    That 45$ a month as opposed to the 30 a month for the old unlimited, so if it had worked I'd have had no issue paying it.
    11-17-2011 01:54 PM
  19. clmbngbkng's Avatar
    You were only usb tethering the phone to DL a torrent, right?

    On a similar note there SHOULD be no way they can tell if you were doing Netflix through the app on your phone and then HDMI out (if the phone supported it) to the TV. As long as it is the Netflix app then the data should look the same. I want to know how they can claim that is tethering or even find it out.
    11-17-2011 01:58 PM
  20. palandri's Avatar
    You were only usb tethering the phone to DL a torrent, right?

    On a similar note there SHOULD be no way they can tell if you were doing Netflix through the app on your phone and then HDMI out (if the phone supported it) to the TV. As long as it is the Netflix app then the data should look the same. I want to know how they can claim that is tethering or even find it out.
    Where have you been? Privacy went out the door years ago.
    11-17-2011 02:39 PM
  21. clmbngbkng's Avatar
    Heh very true but this isn't Android with CarrierIQ. I kinda understand them sniffing packets on their network to detect tethering but stay the **** off my phone.
    palandri likes this.
    11-17-2011 03:04 PM
  22. palandri's Avatar
    Heh very true but this isn't Android with CarrierIQ. I kinda understand them sniffing packets on their network to detect tethering but stay the **** off my phone.
    I hear ya and I agree!
    11-17-2011 03:12 PM
  23. jeremyshaw's Avatar
    I hear ya and I agree!
    Good luck with that. :D

    On the other hand, they probably just order a deep packet inspection (they do have the right to, lol) for all customers who go over 5GB.
    11-17-2011 03:52 PM
  24. clmbngbkng's Avatar
    One thing I would love to happen is we break the cycle of buying phones from carriers but I know that will never happen any time soon.

    We don't buy computers from Comcast, Cox or AT&T for home internet and I would love to have the same thing for wireless.
    11-17-2011 04:35 PM
  25. Phrozty's Avatar
    Update:
    At&t approved my switch back to the unlimited data plan. Very nice!:)
    I guess my renegade tethering days are behind me. I'll play it straight from now on.
    On the upside I had been tethering in small doses since I got my first razr back in '05, so really I can't complain.
    But if at&t ever turns on WP tethering I'll sign up and pay happily.
    How in the world did you get switched back??? I had to give mine up for my titan :/.
    12-05-2011 09:32 AM
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