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  1. Captain_Eric's Avatar
    I hope you gentleman will consider new standards for the comments section. Too much simple chatter, whining, bashing. It sometimes takes pages and pages before you get to a thoughtful, helpful comment that you can sink your teeth into. Please consider it.
    04-16-2016 07:58 PM
  2. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I hope you gentleman will consider new standards for the comments section. Too much simple chatter, whining, bashing. It sometimes takes pages and pages before you get to a thoughtful, helpful comment that you can sink your teeth into. Please consider it.
    Captain, I appreciate your concerns. It is definitely something that gets discussed and addressed behind the scenes regularly.

    As a member of that Team by default of my Lead position I can say that the Moderator Team Leader is definitely aware. As a team, Mods have a duty to make sure posts comply with the Community Rules. As a public forum, participation by all is welcome so long as the rules are followed.

    Diversity of opinion is to be expected. It can be seen virtually anywhere public participation is allowed. Some truly are not pleased with Microsoft's direction and policies of late. For the Ambassador Team, the directive I promote would be that the Team members remain positive and supportive, help answer questions and solve issues. We can only try and win people over by example, be we Members, Ambassadors or Moderators.

    Upholding standards for the board falls to the Moderator Team Leader and I'll leave it to him to discuss those aspects of your inquiry. Formulating new standards would be the purview of the Community Manager. I do know that he regularly takes feedback in order to review and possibly revise those Community Rules...
    Last edited by RumoredNow; 04-17-2016 at 12:14 AM. Reason: post split between two threads
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    04-16-2016 08:34 PM
  3. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I hope you gentleman will consider new standards for the comments section. Too much simple chatter, whining, bashing. It sometimes takes pages and pages before you get to a thoughtful, helpful comment that you can sink your teeth into. Please consider it.
    If you are referring to the blog page comments, those are managed differently than the forums. Moderators are involved with the forums only, not the blog comments. The writers typically manage the blog comments themselves, and anything that is not spam or blatant discrimination/harassment tends to be left alone.
    04-16-2016 08:58 PM
  4. Captain_Eric's Avatar
    If you are referring to the blog page comments, those are managed differently than the forums. Moderators are involved with the forums only, not the blog comments. The writers typically manage the blog comments themselves, and anything that is not spam or blatant discrimination/harassment tends to be left alone.
    I understand. And, I am asking Windows Central / Mobile Nations to reconsider both venues. It's just pathetic sometimes....The ball is in your court.
    04-16-2016 09:58 PM
  5. Captain_Eric's Avatar
    Wait! Let me give you some ideas for consideration; 1) any whiny or derogatory comments on Insider Build threads should be deleted and sent a note that quotes the "Disclaimer" from joining said Insider program. You can easily say: "You're comments are unhelpful given your previous agreement when joining the Insider Program." 2) the "standard of care" for derogatory, mean, disrespectful to Microsoft or any organization should be the same as for comments (derogatory, etc.) for a fellow poster and deleted. Why? People are working on these products, at Microsoft, Windows Central, everywhere. It's not right to assume Microsoft is a big impersonal monolith. It's made up of people, probably hard working, who deserve the same respect as anyone. These rules are simple, and easily implemented. Go for it. Please.
    04-16-2016 10:25 PM
  6. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I understand. And, I am asking Windows Central / Mobile Nations to reconsider both venues. It's just pathetic sometimes....The ball is in your court.
    Wait! Let me give you some ideas for consideration; 1) any whiny or derogatory comments on Insider Build threads should be deleted and sent a note that quotes the "Disclaimer" from joining said Insider program. You can easily say: "You're comments are unhelpful given your previous agreement when joining the Insider Program." 2) the "standard of care" for derogatory, mean, disrespectful to Microsoft or any organization should be the same as for comments (derogatory, etc.) for a fellow poster and deleted. Why? People are working on these products, at Microsoft, Windows Central, everywhere. It's not right to assume Microsoft is a big impersonal monolith. It's made up of people, probably hard working, who deserve the same respect as anyone. These rules are simple, and easily implemented. Go for it. Please.
    Eric,

    I moved your comments regarding the blog comments and forums to the Site Discussion forum and also gave you your own thread for this.

    Since this is beyond the scope of what the Ambassadors do and more related to the writers/community management, it will be better noticed by them here.

    Thanks for your suggestions.
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    04-16-2016 10:47 PM
  7. Guytronic's Avatar
    Wait! Let me give you some ideas for consideration; 1) any whiny or derogatory comments on Insider Build threads should be deleted and sent a note that quotes the "Disclaimer" from joining said Insider program. You can easily say: "You're comments are unhelpful given your previous agreement when joining the Insider Program." 2) the "standard of care" for derogatory, mean, disrespectful to Microsoft or any organization should be the same as for comments (derogatory, etc.) for a fellow poster and deleted. Why? People are working on these products, at Microsoft, Windows Central, everywhere. It's not right to assume Microsoft is a big impersonal monolith. It's made up of people, probably hard working, who deserve the same respect as anyone. These rules are simple, and easily implemented. Go for it. Please.
    My thoughts:
    I understand this is very frustrating for those here that know what they are buying into.
    However it's the responsibility of the insiders to understand risk by actually reading the Microsoft Corporation's well advertised disclaimer.

    It is not Windows Centrals place to attempt to control what insiders do with their devices.
    Windows Central under Mobile Nations is simply a clearing house for conversation about subjects within the scope of Windows.

    As a volunteer staff we absolutely can not police every users failure or success with device modification.

    In simple terms:
    Buyer beware no warranty implied or otherwise.
    04-16-2016 10:53 PM
  8. Captain_Eric's Avatar
    My thoughts:
    I understand this is very frustrating for those here that know what they are buying into.
    However it's the responsibility of the insiders to understand risk by actually reading the Microsoft Corporation's well advertised disclaimer.

    It is not Windows Centrals place to attempt to control what insiders do with their devices.
    Windows Central under Mobile Nations is simply a clearing house for conversation about subjects within the scope of Windows.

    As a volunteer staff we absolutely can not police every users failure or success with device modification.

    In simple terms:
    Buyer beware no warranty implied or otherwise.
    But you do "police." (You moved my comments here after all, right?) Nasty comments to individuals are deleted, right?

    So I'm just saying as long as you set a standard for behavior, just expand it to 1) people's comments failing to acknowledge and live by Microsoft's Insider Build disclaimer 2) nasty comments targeting Microsoft, Daniel, or any organization (by using the same standard as used for individuals, since these are comprises of probably hard-working people who do not deserve disrespect or worse.)

    Here's one more idea. I understand frustration. It just needs it's time and place. So, maybe create a ranters, bitchin', whiners forum. Instead of deleting said posts, move them there.

    And please, this "it's not our job" stuff isn't so helpful.
    Last edited by Captain_Eric; 04-17-2016 at 10:47 AM.
    04-17-2016 10:28 AM
  9. RumoredNow's Avatar
    04-17-2016 02:05 PM
  10. Captain_Eric's Avatar
    Well, of course. Now, please consider putting in some rules so we / you can clean these threads. Ok?
    04-17-2016 04:38 PM
  11. Captain_Eric's Avatar
    Also, consider the following "Code of Conduct" from Microsoft. Some stuff people post on these threads do not appear to comply. Seems to me such posts should be move to another "Frustration Release or Ranting Thread" for their re-eduction and enlightenment. Whacha think?

    https://forums.windowscentral.com/e?...token=KXhVd6g3
    04-19-2016 06:53 PM

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