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  1. James Falconer's Avatar
    Just curious... what is the best smartwatch out there in terms of compatibility with Windows Phone?
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    01-16-2014 09:25 AM
  2. Kris Simundson's Avatar
    The Kreyos will actually have full compatibility with WP.

    Kreyos- The Meteor smart watch
    01-16-2014 11:29 AM
  3. ag1986's Avatar
    The Kreyos will actually have full compatibility with WP.

    Kreyos- The Meteor smart watch
    I've actually been wondering about this. My understanding has been that WP8 does not expose incoming SMS or email notifications to 3rd party apps (calls can be handled via standard Bluetooth protocols). Does anyone know how the Kreyos manages to get around such restrictions?
    01-16-2014 11:39 AM
  4. Kris Simundson's Avatar
    I've actually been wondering about this. My understanding has been that WP8 does not expose incoming SMS or email notifications to 3rd party apps (calls can be handled via standard Bluetooth protocols). Does anyone know how the Kreyos manages to get around such restrictions?
    More than likely are working direct with M$ or are banking on WP8.1
    01-16-2014 11:45 AM
  5. ygtgngr's Avatar
    So can I receive a notification for my Whatsapp message or new snap in 6snap with Meteor?
    01-16-2014 11:46 AM
  6. Kris Simundson's Avatar
    So can I receive a notification for my Whatsapp message or new snap in 6snap with Meteor?
    Whatsapp and 6snap would depend of course on the dev of those apps making sure they're good to go
    01-16-2014 11:57 AM
  7. TruPlaya187's Avatar
    I've actually been wondering about this. My understanding has been that WP8 does not expose incoming SMS or email notifications to 3rd party apps (calls can be handled via standard Bluetooth protocols). Does anyone know how the Kreyos manages to get around such restrictions?
    I had the same question and I've sent an email to Kreyos. When I will receive their answer, I will post back.
    01-16-2014 12:10 PM
  8. badplanet's Avatar
    I can see 3 ways this could turn out.

    1) MS gave them access to the privileged APIs.
    2) They could provide incoming call notifications if the watch can handle Bluetooth profiles like HFP. They could provide the caller name if they can receive PBAP. The could provide music control with AVRCP. And they could provide message notifications with the MAP profile Nokia announced in October.
    3) They could offer some basic features like Pebble Watch Pro does for the Pebble on Windows Phone and offer more when the WP8.1 update, to be announced in April at the Build conference, ships.

    I am wondering the same for the Agent watch when it ships, since it is supposed to support WP8.
    01-16-2014 07:56 PM
  9. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    Whatever watch has full compatibility, I'll put on my watch list. See what I did there, watch? :)
    01-16-2014 08:08 PM
  10. TruPlaya187's Avatar
    Hi, So I got an email back from them with the information provided. Here it is:
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    Thanks for the email. We can really tell you're excited about the Meteor. We can't help but be excited ourselves! We've seen the watch in action, and as far as we can tell - it's DEFINITELY going to be worth the wait.

    To answer your first question: Yes! There will be no issues since the watch is compatible to all known Windows devices. You can make and receive calls and text messages through the it without any problems! Not to mention provide you with on-time email notifications.

    To answer your second question: we plan to start shipping the watch to our backers by mid to late February. We'll keep you posted on any developments through our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/kreyos.

    The Meteor is coming, so stay tuned. We'd love to hear what you think about it once you have it. Thanks again and keep in touch!


    The Kreyos Team
    Visit our support forums at Customer Feedback & Ideas for Kreyos

    Email: support@kreyos.com
    Twitter: @mykreyos
    Facebook: facebook.com/kreyos
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    01-17-2014 06:44 AM
  11. Darth litku's Avatar
    Nice! I hope many dev here in wp will make an app for this smart watch...
    01-17-2014 06:55 AM
  12. TruPlaya187's Avatar
    Well got a bad news yesterday, Kreyos is pushing back de shipping date again to April.
    01-23-2014 06:50 PM
  13. bilzkh's Avatar
    In all likelihood, they're probably working with Microsoft. I'm going to liberally speculate and say that they're pushing Windows Phone compatibility with WP 8.1 and are going to be among the 'big' vendors who will have access to the OS as well as privileged APIs. Furthermore, there's a team within the WP team at MSFT that is working on wearable tech compatibility and concepts and are testing prototype smartwatches, lenses, bands, etc. with Windows Phone 8.1. Yes... all hopeful speculation on my end :)
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    02-01-2014 09:30 PM
  14. masterchief1984's Avatar
    I don't know if its the geek in me or what but I would love to have a fully functional smart watch to go with my 1520. And working in a call center environment it would be perfect so I can answer texts without having to worry about being caught on the phone.
    02-08-2014 04:05 PM
  15. jojoe42's Avatar
    I've been looking at the Kreyos and the Agent smartwatch and they both actually look pretty cool....I'm just a little bit sketchy of how they can claim to control music playback, receive notifications and such when Pebble/other wearables can't...I wouldn't want to bank my money on something that doesn't work
    02-19-2014 02:49 AM
  16. TruPlaya187's Avatar
    I've been looking at the Kreyos and the Agent smartwatch and they both actually look pretty cool....I'm just a little bit sketchy of how they can claim to control music playback, receive notifications and such when Pebble/other wearables can't...I wouldn't want to bank my money on something that doesn't work
    I think that with the WP 8.1 update that will change a lot. But if you want to be safe, wait until the product is out and check out some reviews. For sure there will be plenty.!!!
    jojoe42 likes this.
    02-19-2014 06:00 AM
  17. badplanet's Avatar
    The Pebble can control Music and FM Radio in addition to Calendar, Twitter, Battery and Network notifications today on WP8. In addition there is an app that can install watch faces/apps and install firmware updates again from WP8 on the Pebble. There still are many limitations but hopefully they will be overcome with the WP8.1 update we have all heard about in the last few days.

    The Agent and Kreyos team keep saying that their watches will fully support WP but both have refused to provide any information on how they will do that and what features they will specifically support. Meanwhile they keep pushing the delivery back with no real announced delivery date.

    I backed all 3 of the watches (Pebble, Agent and Kreyos) and have hundreds of hours invested in a couple Pebble apps. I don't think there is anybody who wants to know how they will do what they are saying more than me. I know they could do call notifications and music control with Bluetooth but how they will run in the background or intercept SMS is a mystery to me.
    Last edited by badplanet; 02-19-2014 at 07:00 PM. Reason: Syntax
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    02-19-2014 06:57 PM
  18. jojoe42's Avatar
    The Pebble can control Music and FM Radio in addition to Calendar, Twitter, Battery and Network notifications today on WP8. In addition there is an app that can install watch faces/apps and install firmware updates again from WP8 on the Pebble. There still are many limitations but hopefully they will be overcome with the WP8.1 update we have all heard about in the last few days.

    The Agent and Kreyos team keep saying that their watches will fully support WP but both have refused to provide any information on how they will do that and what features they will specifically support. Meanwhile they keep pushing the delivery back with no real announced delivery date.

    I backed all 3 of the watches (Pebble, Agent and Kreyos) and have hundreds of hours invested in a couple Pebble apps. I don't think there is anybody who wants to know how they will do what they are saying more than me. I know they could do call notifications and music control with Bluetooth but how they will run in the background or intercept SMS is a mystery to me.
    As badplanet and bilzkh said before, MS might be giving them priority access to new APIs in WP8.1 ahead of time so development won't take long...I'd imagine a new notification API or something wouldn't sound to outlandish considering 8.1 is supposed to bring a notification centre and more granular notification controls. I'd imagine the API would allow for notifications to pass-through on other devices using either a new protocol or something that is currently out there (sorry I'm no dev, but I was a while ago when I fiddled with iOS) which the OS would keep running in the background as a single notifications process like iOS and Android. And in relation to the Pebble on WP, personally I find that current support is almost zero as you have to the screen on, with the app open in your pocket....so why not just use your phone anyways for the mean time?!!
    02-21-2014 03:31 AM
  19. badplanet's Avatar
    You only need the lock screen disabled for full music control. If you selected a large playlist or all songs they should continue to play under the lock screen if you do not pause a song. This is an OS limitation. All the notifications and FM music control works fine under the lock screen. Because of the limitations of running a 3rd party app continuously in the background I just hit the tile to launch the app when I am working or not going to be actively using my phone. That way I receive Calendar and Twitter notifications while I am doing something else.

    I agree it is not a great experience but it is what is possible today. When people ask me if they should buy a Pebble to use with WP8, I tell them I would not recommend it. When Pebble watch owners contact me about moving to Windows Phone from Android or IOS, I tell they will not have a good experience with the Pebble at this time. The existing apps at least provide something to people who moved to WP anyway or without knowing the limitations.

    Since all the Pebble sample notifications work in the app I expect it will not take too long to add phone, SMS, email and other notifications once there is a way to do this in WP8.1. The ball is in the MS court. They are the only ones that can fix this.
    02-22-2014 04:46 PM
  20. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Hate to be a party crasher but, what is so fascinating about a smartwatch? Answer calls and SMS, really? I can't see a full qwerty on a device that small so what's it going to be, a T9? Isn't that the reason we moved away from flip phones, to enjoy larger screens, full keyboards?

    I think it would be cool to look like **** Tracy, but only for a minute.

    edit: Wow, the censors didn't like Richard's name.
    02-27-2014 06:48 PM
  21. jojoe42's Avatar
    Hate to be a party crasher but, what is so fascinating about a smartwatch? Answer calls and SMS, really? I can't see a full qwerty on a device that small so what's it going to be, a T9? Isn't that the reason we moved away from flip phones, to enjoy larger screens, full keyboards?

    I think it would be cool to look like **** Tracy, but only for a minute.

    edit: Wow, the censors didn't like Richard's name.
    The idea of a smartwatch is for notifications and controlling the phone; so that you can be more subtle with them. If your phone is on silent and you get a message, you can quickly look at your watch instead of your phone (and being rude to say a date, in class or in a movie cinema or something); if you get a call you can keep your phone on silent (and save the embarrassingly loud ringtone) and decline easily from your watch. If you're listening to music (this is probably what I would find the most useful) you can also have controls over your music on your watch instead of having to pull out your phone every time. I'd agree with you and say that having a qwerty on a watch is a bit silly, but what I've said above is what I see a smartwatch for anyways
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    02-28-2014 12:53 AM
  22. fatclue_98's Avatar
    The idea of a smartwatch is for notifications and controlling the phone; so that you can be more subtle with them. If your phone is on silent and you get a message, you can quickly look at your watch instead of your phone (and being rude to say a date, in class or in a movie cinema or something); if you get a call you can keep your phone on silent (and save the embarrassingly loud ringtone) and decline easily from your watch. If you're listening to music (this is probably what I would find the most useful) you can also have controls over your music on your watch instead of having to pull out your phone every time. I'd agree with you and say that having a qwerty on a watch is a bit silly, but what I've said above is what I see a smartwatch for anyways
    Fair enough. I appreciate a well-thought answer free of snarky remarks. Notifications are sorely lacking in WP and you make a solid point, that would be worth the price of admission for me.
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    02-28-2014 09:06 AM
  23. badplanet's Avatar
    As crazy as it sounds I have seen smart watches running Android that have full touch keyboards on them. Personally I don't even like typing on a smart phone to reply to emails. If it is something that can wait I just get to it later on a PC or tablet.

    That brings up a big issue with the debate of whether a smart watch should be stand alone or a companion to a smart phone. If your smart watch is stand alone where it replaces your phone for calls, SMS and email you have to figure out how you reply to SMS, emails and dial the phone. Voice is the obvious answer but is voice good enough to completely replace typing. What about in a meeting, movie or other location where you would want to reply but not make a sound.

    What about the cost of the sim in a stand alone watch. It you still have a smart phone then you are either paying monthly charges for 2 lines or are swapping the sim. Sims and sim trays/doors are very delicate and some times require removal of the phones battery. How often would you leave your phone at home when going out.

    I think the best use case for a stand alone smart watch is for running or a similar activity where a smart phone would be a hindrance. In theory if 2 lines were affordable this would be the best option.

    Personally I like the smart watch as a companion device. Getting notifications with a vibration works great and is almost is never inappropriate such as in a business meeting or theater. Controlling you phones music or radio is a great convenience that I would quickly miss. It also seems that companion smart watches like the Pebble will have better battery life and cost far less.

    Just my thoughts...
    Last edited by badplanet; 03-01-2014 at 12:17 PM. Reason: Spelling and clarity
    03-01-2014 12:12 PM
  24. Charlene Chua's Avatar
    hey guys, the Meteor is compatible with Windows Phone. We'd like to apologize for the delays and we'll start shipping sometime April.
    hang in there with us, we're working hard towards the finish line. We'll post updates on how Meteor works on WP. Do check out http://www.facebook.com/kreyos
    03-24-2014 02:30 AM
  25. LumiaIcon's Avatar
    So other than the Kreyos and a limited feature Pebble, we are out of luck on WP right? Basically I browsed around looking to buy something and came away with... You can't.
    04-12-2014 10:42 AM
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