10-30-2017 12:09 PM
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  1. Althie's Avatar
    As part of the surface family the Laptop can handle pen input.
    Does a laptop need Touch Screen....?
    I don't think so, I would have preferred a dedicated slot for smart pen holder.
    Instead of using the screen having the option to jot things down on a surface (not the device)
    and the writing should transfer to the Laptop through BT.
    It is nice to capture screenshots with a pen on touch screen or to annotate documents (you can use in Edge also), but it is not a necessity.
    If you think the use of the pen problematic, think about an holder for it, I have SP4 and use a loop on the case to hold the pen, the magnet won't hold good enough when in the bag. Just too carry the pen around you will need a good solution, I like it handy, not somewhere in the bag.
    05-20-2017 09:39 AM
  2. falcon304's Avatar
    There's no way you could do it for long periods of time. Unlike the Surface Book, the Laptop wasn't designed to be used with the Pen. It just supports it because "it has to".
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    05-20-2017 09:47 PM
  3. wataru1's Avatar
    Of course you can use the pen. Just lay the screen down (the pic was taken from my trip to the MS Store). I always ink this way on my detachable 2in1s. I never detach the tablet from the keyboard, including the Book. It's more nature and easier to simply lay down the screen.

    05-21-2017 10:04 AM
  4. savagelizards's Avatar
    Okay, so I have a surface book and not the surface laptop, but it's not that dissimilar. When I want to use the pen for detailed masking or other work in photoshop, I don't want to flip the screen over because that hides the keyboard and I am constantly using keyboard shortcuts for brush sizing, toggling between foreground and background colors, etc.

    I have no problem working on the screen at a desk, but if I am at home I also love being able to sit on the couch with my knees bent and work with the screen back up against my thighs. I have gotten very used to this posture and it feels natural. Using the pen to work directly on an image is so much easier than working with a Wacom tablet. I get great results and I save time over my old workflow.

    My daughters have Macs, and I am forever trying to tap the screen with a finger when I am trying to help them with something. I never seem to remember that they don't have touchscreens. My conclusion? I use my surface book's touchscreen a lot more than I am conscious of. I really believe Apple is wrong about touch and Microsoft is on the right track.
    05-27-2017 09:22 AM
  5. k1s23's Avatar
    There's no way you could do it for long periods of time. Unlike the Surface Book, the Laptop wasn't designed to be used with the Pen. It just supports it because "it has to".
    falcon i agree with you. its not ergonomic and not comfortable, although it can be done in short time periods. i tried leaning my laptop screen all the way back then getting a pencil and waving my pencil over just to see how things would be. i can write on it but i dont like having to lean over farther. its nice that the surface laptop has touch (after all, whats a surface product without touch?) but like you said it kinda "has to" or else it wouldnt be a surface product.
    05-27-2017 08:03 PM
  6. k1s23's Avatar
    Of course you can use the pen. Just lay the screen down (the pic was taken from my trip to the MS Store). I always ink this way on my detachable 2in1s. I never detach the tablet from the keyboard, including the Book. It's more nature and easier to simply lay down the screen.

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    wataru, although it is possible i cant see myself using a surface laptop like that even if i were at home by myself. the rubber feet on the bottom of the laptop are what protects the bottom of the laptop shell from getting scratches, so not having any rubber feet on the underside of the monitor = high risk of scratches.
    05-27-2017 08:05 PM
  7. k1s23's Avatar
    Okay, so I have a surface book and not the surface laptop, but it's not that dissimilar. When I want to use the pen for detailed masking or other work in photoshop, I don't want to flip the screen over because that hides the keyboard and I am constantly using keyboard shortcuts for brush sizing, toggling between foreground and background colors, etc.
    hey savagelizards, interesting input about using photoshop on the surface book. i know its buying another accessory, but how about using the surface dial? the surface dial was built to work with the hand not using the pen, which is great for you since you do a lot of keyboard shortcuts i assume with the hand not using the pen. that way you can leave the screen flipped over giving you the battery life while keeping the productivity going.
    savagelizards likes this.
    05-27-2017 08:12 PM
  8. savagelizards's Avatar
    hey savagelizards, interesting input about using photoshop on the surface book. i know its buying another accessory, but how about using the surface dial? the surface dial was built to work with the hand not using the pen, which is great for you since you do a lot of keyboard shortcuts i assume with the hand not using the pen. that way you can leave the screen flipped over giving you the battery life while keeping the productivity going.
    I will have to experiment with the dial. I got one for Christmas. I use it as a jog/shuttle when video editing, and for s rolling mostly. I know there is some ability to program functions, but I don't know if it will give me everything I need. The keyboard shortcuts are so ingrained that I just use them without really thinking most of the time. But that's a great idea and worth a try.
    05-28-2017 01:06 AM
  9. k1s23's Avatar
    I will have to experiment with the dial. I got one for Christmas. I use it as a jog/shuttle when video editing, and for s rolling mostly. I know there is some ability to program functions, but I don't know if it will give me everything I need. The keyboard shortcuts are so ingrained that I just use them without really thinking most of the time. But that's a great idea and worth a try.
    cool! yeah i understand about things being ingrained; thats why for a while i preferred a feature phone with a physical number pad over a smart phone (in order to type messages in class without looking ). it seems really versatile with all of the options, you can use the surface dial at your desk and when youre sitting at the couch go back to keystrokes.
    05-28-2017 01:17 AM
  10. ajcletus500's Avatar
    I think the best intermittent usage for the touch screen in clamshell form factor is when you're reading an article and need to scroll up. Me thinks. :P

    But obviously as artist mode would just flip it on the screen and paint away for hours. :)
    I really don't think the surface laptop will be the first choice from someone who needs to draw on the screen.
    Not really worth buying the pen with this one
    06-04-2017 11:17 PM
  11. kashgohel's Avatar
    I really don't think the surface laptop will be the first choice from someone who needs to draw on the screen.
    Not really worth buying the pen with this one
    Sure, not really for an artist who can afford a Surface Pro or a Surface Book, but for a budget guy with touch screen needs I think he/she can work with the Surface Laptop.
    06-11-2017 07:42 AM
  12. elman1005's Avatar
    It would be great if they added in a feature that allowed the pen to write on any flat surface that would write on the laptop. If that makes any sense
    09-12-2017 03:24 PM
  13. Barry Weston's Avatar
    Hey All! I have a pen from an SP3 here and I am trying to use it with the Surface Laptop. I can get it to launch InkSpace via the purple button, but actual pen input does not work. Any suggestions? As of right now, I cannot seem to figure out "how one uses the surface pen with the surface laptop."

    Cheers.
    10-30-2017 12:09 PM
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