15 days to go. Still no SDK

[diapers]

What's going on? Why does WP8 still have publicly available SDK?

 

[Heron_Kusanagi]

What's going on? Why does WP8 still have publicly available SDK?

This baffles me on a technical level, but if they do release the SDK now, there's nothing exciting in specs that will be announced during the WP8 launch event.

I think it isn't wise. But MS apparently believes for mobile, hype is above all.

 

[VagrantWade]

They have said explicitly it will be available on the 29th. 1500 developers already have it. And there are applications carried over from Windows Phone 7. This isn't a brand new ecosystem.

 

[eLseStudio]

I hope the holding off for bigger surprise really work out well. That benefit the whole ecosystem (worked out mean big splash mean big influx of new user), so do we as developers. It might mean we are releasing our Application later than we wanted to ride the Windows Phone 8 hype. It also meant we have a bigger market if things really works out.

Patient, I do!

 

[AngryNil]

The SDK is publicly launching with WP8. We already know this. Nothing is going on, I know you've already got a pretty neat app in the Marketplace and you were probably eligible for the limited access preview.

 

[SnailUK]

From my perspective it makes reasonable sense.

1. If you only allow only vetted developers the SDK, you guarantee the initial batch of apps will be of a decent standard (rather than the array of fart apps, and half naked women pictures apps that get released daily on WP7).

2. Unless theres something very specific a developer needs, writing WP7 apps will be much more profitable.

3. Microsoft don't want to see a wholesale instant migration to WP8 for a developers. There are still millions of WP7 users out there, and people buying WP7 devices still, they are still desperate for apps.

 

[aubreyq]

It will all come together on the 29th. Also known as Christmas Day for us WP nerds, LOL!

 

[diapers]

From my perspective it makes reasonable sense.

no it makes no sense

1. If you only allow only vetted developers the SDK, you guarantee the initial batch of apps will be of a decent standard (rather than the array of fart apps, and half naked women pictures apps that get released daily on WP7).

All the WP7 apps will automatically be ported to WP8, including the "array of fart apps, and half naked women pictures". So in the end what difference does it make to withhold the SDK? IF anything having the SDK would give developers an opportunity to improve their apps before the next version hits.

2. Unless theres something very specific a developer needs, writing WP7 apps will be much more profitable.

how so? What's going to happen is developers will release two versions of their apps. one for the limited functionality WP7 and the other for WP8.

3. Microsoft don't want to see a wholesale instant migration to WP8 for a developers. There are still millions of WP7 users out there, and people buying WP7 devices still, they are still desperate for apps.

From a business sense this argument is just wrong. Why release wp8 if you don't want people to migrate to it? Of course they want wholesale migration to WP8, how else are they going to make any money?

 

[aubreyq]

Microsoft must've done a risk assessment and decided it was worth to hold off on it even it that means less WP8 apps available on launch day.

Come on, everyone! It's a surprise party! The less people are involved, the less the likelyhood of leaks. That's all it is.

 

[VagrantWade]

Microsoft must've done a risk assessment and decided it was worth to hold off on it even it that means less WP8 apps available on launch day.

Come on, everyone! It's a surprise party! The less people are involved, the less the likelyhood of leaks. That's all it is.

1500 devs have the SDK. And there are already a ton of existing apps with WP7 that will work on WP8.

 

[thed]

I was under the impression that everything that the SDK reveals has already been leaked. It has been out there for a while. I see no reason to hold it back.

This looks like a pretty good summary of the new stuff in the SDK:
Windows Phone 8 Application platform detailed | MobileTechWorld

 

[VagrantWade]

I was under the impression that everything that the SDK reveals has already been leaked. It has been out there for a while. I see no reason to hold it back.

This looks like a pretty good summary of the new stuff in the SDK:
Windows Phone 8 Application platform detailed | MobileTechWorld

That's assuming portions of the firmware weren't locked in the SDK given to the 1500 devs.

 

[tk-093]

One way to look at it is, the longer you have to wait for the SDK, the longer it will take to create a WP8 app or updated an existing app.

Once you DO actually update your existing app, or create a new app, you then have to wait 2-4 weeks to get through Microsoft's approval processs.

One could argue that's an unfair headstart for a small group of developers.. especially considering Microsoft's love of developers.

Doesn't bother me either way, but I can see why some people would be upset.

 

[independentvolume]

Perhaps they did it so all of the main apps aren't lost in a sea of crappy flashlight and stopwatch apps come launch day.

 

[based_graham]

For WP developers you guys have the Win8 SDK available to you and the market is still young why not focus on putting your apps on Win8 and when the WP8 SDK comes out port back down to WP8.

I think that's the best solution right now if you really want to get to work put your apps on Win8 we need them.

 

[thejoyofsobe]

For WP developers you guys have the Win8 SDK available to you and the market is still young why not focus on putting your apps on Win8 and when the WP8 SDK comes out port back down to WP8.

I think that's the best solution right now if you really want to get to work put your apps on Win8 we need them.

this.

sure, any tie-ins to as-of-yet unreleased features will need to be added later when the full SDK is released but the Win8 SDK has been available to build with for some time.