Ex Google ******, Why should I choose windows 8 over iOS?

[crav4speed]

Ok fine... the majority of end users or consumers are choosing mostly iPads, iPhones and Android devices for use at home and in the workplace. That is where Microsoft dropped the ball pre-iPhone and have been trying to gain traction for the past few years with windows phone and now windows 8 and surface. The argument is that the backbone connecting all these end user devices together, especially in enterprise environments, is most likely going to be a Microsoft product. Microsoft is and always will be a software company first and they own the enterprise environment with their software as nothing else even comes close to the usability and support Microsoft provides. Google and Apple are not even considered competition.

 

[uswebworx]

Offtopic: Nothing personal, but I work in a digital marketing agency (so basically Adwords) and 99.9% of the time Google bans an AdSense partner, there is a terms of service violation involved, typically "please click on the ads" or sometimes this can happen without the knowledge of the account owner. That means that all the advertisers who have paid for clicks/impressions on your publisher pages have been defrauded. Google is under no obligation at all to "work with you".

OFF Topic: I disagree. They badger you and want to work with you, they want you to spend your money on their products then they damn well better work with you when they decide to "drop you". I too was dropped and lost a heck of a commission check a few years back.

To OP: go with a windows phone, I just upgraded from and iPhone and while it has been tough I just will not allow apple to control me any longer, I am a windows user through and through now (except for the ipad mini Christmas Present)

 

[john6504]

I should go for a Nokia Lumia 920 for a top Windows Phone. They have many own apps that are good:
Nokia Lumia 920 - Windows Phone with PureView Camera - Nokia - USA

 

[Cleavitt76]

Warning: none of my post is on topic.

Datacenters? You would have a hard time finding one which used MS for anything important - most DCs run on custom Linux. I don't understand why you want to implement VDI. Just give everyone laptops (no whiny "I want to use my iPad for work!!" users then) and BYOD/issue phones. That's it. And as to your last paragraph,

And "small percentage"? You call the US Gov. SA small? Good for you. And realise that at most companies, almost everything happens in the browser anyway. Apart from specialised fields like CAD and similar, I'd wager that the average worker spends a good 80% of their time in a browser. And "databases, file servers" and the like should preferably run a more stable platform than that from MS...

You need to stop running your mouth about things you clearly know nothing about. Every one of your statements is inaccurate. As I said before, I work in IT as a database administrator and a programmer. I spend plenty of time in datacenters. 85% of the hundreds of servers in my company's datacenter are running Windows Server. About 10% are running Red Hat Linux and the rest are running HPUX and AIX. I think you are taking datacenters that specialize in web hosting and applying it to every datacenter. However, even you help to make my point which is that Google and Apple have no foundation in the enterprise world.

The "whiny users that want to bring their ipads to work" are physicians in my case. They want to have direct access to all the systems that store the patient's medical record while standing at the bedside, which is a valid goal. We already have hundreds of mobile computers, but for what they want to do at times, a tablet is a better form factor. Unfortunately, while the iPad is a great tablet, it does not fit well into an enterprise environment and it is not conducive to doing "real work" which was my original point. Anyway, not every industry has systems that are well suited for web browsers and the cloud.

I didn't say the US Gov. SA is "a small company." I said "a small percentage of companies". Stop twisting my words.

Your comments about "databases and file servers should not be run on MS" is absurd. I'm a certified DBA for both Oracle and MS. Those two companies have the two most capable database server platforms available. I'm not talking about MS Access here, I'm talking about MS SQL Server, SSIS, SSRS, and SSBI. MS also has the best file server option going for most enterprise environments because it ties directly into Active Directory centralized security. We are talking enterprise technology where security is a concern, not some little 5 person office that just shares everything in a single folder somewhere.

Stop acting like an expert in topics you know nothing about and listen instead. You might actually learn something.

I'm assuming you haven't been paying attention to this thing called Consumerization? If you don't see the millions of iPad's, iPhones and Macbooks invading enterprises all over the world, then you have your head in the sand..

Let's not forget about consumer APPS that are being used daily be employee's (Evernote, etc)..

The days where users go to IT to get word installed on their computers is soon to be behind us.. The sooner that Microsoft figures that out, the better.

You give an example of someone using Evernote to replace a paper scratch pad as an example of the future of enterprise technology? Do you really think that businesses are just going to dump their infrastructure in the future and let employees run amok with whatever apps they enjoy from iTunes?

So I guess in the future some departments will write their policies and procedures in Evernote and store it on Dropbox, others will store theirs on Skydrive with documents written in Notes+, other employees will handle customer data using MonkeyDocs and Amazon Cloud storage. Corporate email servers will be replaced with whatever personal free online account the employees feel like using. Maybe internal quarterly financial reports can be posted to Facebook instead of having a corporate report distribution system. I'm sure this business will be super efficient and their data will be very secure. After employees quit or are fired I'm sure they will turn over all of the company data that has been stored in their personal iPad/iTunes/Cloud storage accounts and stop using any other corporate data that has been shared out by others.

I guess I better start looking for a new career. IT is dead (which is odd considering that IT positions are among the most in demand for the next decade according to the US Bureau of Labor and Statistics).

 

[a5cent]

Where I work, the corporate engineering guys target IE, Chrome and Firefox usability before pushing to production and I am given to understand this is becoming more and more common; at that point, the browser ceases to matter.

Anyone publishing to a public website that isn't able to handle those three browsers is likely to make quite a fool of themselves. That isn't just becoming more and more common... it's been standard practice for ages.

The thing is, I'm not talking about public websites. I'm talking about intranet applications. These applications typically target only IE and are expected to run in that browser and its successors for at least the next decade, causing only low or preferably no maintenance costs. Large international corporations have mutually invested billions in such software. Understandably, they are very interested in the direction Microsoft takes with IE10, IE11, etc. Microsoft has key account managers in all these corporations who coordinate where to take IE next (I work with some of them). That is why the question of IE10 standards compliance is anything but moot. Hope I've cleared that up.

 

[arrowrand]

Evernote is available for Windows Phone. Evernote | Windows Phone Apps+Games Store (United States) I wouldn't count Evernote as a "consumer" app anyway. It's a productivity app, not a "fun" app.

I pay for Evernote, but the WP8 app is woefully inadequate.

 

[HerronScott]

Warning: none of my post is on topic.
You need to stop running your mouth about things you clearly know nothing about. Every one of your statements is inaccurate. As I said before, I work in IT as a database administrator and a programmer. I spend plenty of time in datacenters. 85% of the hundreds of servers in my company's datacenter are running Windows Server. About 10% are running Red Hat Linux and the rest are running HPUX and AIX. I think you are taking datacenters that specialize in web hosting and applying it to every datacenter. However, even you help to make my point which is that Google and Apple have no foundation in the enterprise world.

I can confirm your statements above for where I work and I manage the systems group. We have 4 datacenters (2 in US and 2 in Europe) with over 700 servers which are predominnately Windows and the rest consist of about 10% RedHat Linux and we are supporting over 5000 users in over 40 locations globally.

Scott

 

[astraith]

Me and my wife both have the S3 from samsung, with tomobile.Google recently cost me over $1000 and basically destroyed my business, but I digress.I have decided to stop using anything Google has even touched, so I am either switching to an iPhone or a windows 8 phone.iPhones are too small, so I think that is one of the main reasons I will choose Windows, but I have been such a google ****** all of my life, their products do everything so well; and I am afraid I will not find this same ease and greatness with windows 8 on a phone (love windows 8 on my lenovo yoga laptop tho)I ask the Windows 8 fans out there to help push me over the ledge and let go of Google forever.

Well, Windows 8 is a full desktop OS, while iOS is meant to be mobile ;-)Now that I am done being a smart butt, you have Windows 8 and love it, right? Windows Phone was the basis for that. Nokia's Lumia 920, and surely the EOS, are leaps and bounds better than any iPhone .. And this is coming from an Apple ******. I believe Apple makes the best desktop, but I Hate their mobile products.So I am choosing Nokia 920 myself. If I were you I would choose Nokia too.

 

[jaqueh]

Me and my wife both have the S3 from samsung, with tomobile.
Google recently cost me over $1000 and basically destroyed my business, but I digress.
I have decided to stop using anything Google has even touched, so I am either switching to an iPhone or a windows 8 phone.

iPhones are too small, so I think that is one of the main reasons I will choose Windows, but I have been such a google ****** all of my life, their products do everything so well; and I am afraid I will not find this same ease and greatness with windows 8 on a phone (love windows 8 on my lenovo yoga laptop tho)

I ask the Windows 8 fans out there to help push me over the ledge and let go of Google forever.

You shouldn't

 

[tgp]

If you use a lot of apps you should go with iPhone, because you will feel the app shortage if you get a WP. Or, you could do some research on which apps are available for WP8 and see if they would cover your needs. That said, I would choose WP8 if apps aren't important to you.

The problem with your situation as I see it is that you already have what is arguably the best Android phone available. Anything you switch to, whether it be a Lumia 920 or an iPhone 5, will have some shortcomings compared to what you're used to. Of course, there may be some functions available that aren't with the SGS3, but I would wager you'll find more disadvantages than advantages.

 

[mgmtm4]

So this will be my first post because I was just in your shoes. I was the ultimate Google fan and I just recently picked up a Windows Phone. I have Google Voice, loved Android, Gmail, Google Reader, Google+ pretty much day one, needless to say I bought into the entire Google platform. The reason I made the huge transition over to Windows Phone was out of complete boredom after 3 years of Android. It just feels dull at this point. Since Apple and Google have basically been stealing ideas from each other for the last couple years the iPhone and Android platforms look very similar at this point. I was really looking for a drastic change and I found it with the phone OS I used to make fun of. I actually have had my 8x now for a week and I love how different and fresh it feels. Everything is smooth like an iPhone but it feels so futuristic and modern. The colors radiate off the screen, animations are slick, and there are so many little things that just make you feel like you are using this crazy new idea of what a phone can be. It is not all flowers and roses and I certainly miss some stuff from Android but I still have most of my Google apps. Google Voice has a much nicer app on WP, this is true also for YouTube, and Google Reader. The only one missing is a solid Google+ and Talk app but so far I have made due. Trust me, just get one and try it out for a week, most cell phone companies have a return within 14 day policy. I know for a fact I am not going to return mine.

 

[arrowrand]

The reason I made the huge transition over to Windows Phone was out of complete boredom after 3 years of Android.

I've had 2 phones forever and my Lumia replaced my Palm Pre as my secondary phone, not my Nexus.

In my 3 months with WP, I'm impressed by what MS has done, and I'm completely over it. Lack of apps, the bland, consistent look that all apps share in the UI department, lack of notifications, lack of universal search, poor pdf handling, lack of features in Office. I've seen it, and I've grown tired of it.

I'm going to drop this phone and try something else for a bit if there isn't some wonderful turn for the better by summer.

 

[Gambit11B]

It's simple: iOS uses Google as their search engine (Siri).....Windows Phones use Bing. If you're boycotting Google, then this should be reason enough.

 

[CoZmicShReddeR]

If your surrounded by iOS and Google fan boys and girls and you own a Nokia Lumia 920 like me they have nothing to say once they see your purdy phone!