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  1. PG2G's Avatar
    I think it is a given that the US version will have LTE and the world version most likely won't
    08-30-2012 09:25 AM
  2. Duvi's Avatar
    I love how it looks! I don't care how good looking the next HTC device is, they always disappoint me. Their devices aren't as reliable as Nokia and Samsung, when it comes to durability.

    I can't wait to see Nokia's offering. I have 2 upgrades and a 3rd coming, so I might get the both Samsung and Nokia devices as well as the new iPhone.
    snowmutt likes this.
    08-30-2012 09:28 AM
  3. poiman's Avatar
    WAIT WAIT WAIT!!!! HOLD THE TRAIN!!!

    Has anyone confirmed no LTE on this phone? dont see it in the specs.
    BUT!!! I did see mini HDMI! That looks promising for the platform!
    Look at this picture, it will probably answer your question:

    08-30-2012 09:36 AM
  4. ejb222's Avatar
    Look at this picture, it will probably answer your question:

    Click to view quoted image
    Not sure how that helps...it doesn't list all the specs of the phone nor does it have a great picture or 360 view of the phone. the below link seems to point to HDMI...
    Samsung Announces ATIV Windows 8, Phone 8 Devices

    Samsung ATIV S
    4.8-inch HD Super AMOLED
    1.5 GHz dual-core SoC
    HSPA+ 42Mbps 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
    EDGE/GPRS 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
    8MP Rear Auto Focus Camera with LED Flash
    1.9MP Front VT Camera
    A-GPS
    Gloness
    Bluetooth 4.0
    USB 2.0 Host
    Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n (2.4 & 5 GHz)
    Wi-Fi Direct
    Wi-Fi Channel Bonding
    3.5mm earjack
    Micro HDMI
    NFC
    2 GB of RAM
    32 or 64 GB of internal storage
    microSD Card SLot Up to 64 GB
    Accelerometer, Geomagnetic, Ambient Light, Gyroscope, and Grip Sensors
    Standard battery, Li-ion 8,200mAh
    08-30-2012 09:50 AM
  5. ejb222's Avatar
    HA...just noticed the battery must be a typo too... 8200mAh!!!!
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    08-30-2012 09:51 AM
  6. Duvi's Avatar
    Probably going to T-mobile... no mention of LTE. And T-mobile is the only one in the U.S. doing 42Mbps for HSPA+
    08-30-2012 09:52 AM
  7. Winterfang's Avatar
    So no hands on or anything?
    08-30-2012 10:18 AM
  8. Big Supes's Avatar
    Europe release first, followed up with a worldwide LTE version later, possibly?
    snowmutt likes this.
    08-30-2012 10:18 AM
  9. Big Supes's Avatar
    So no hands on or anything?
    I think Nokia will have first dibs on that. . .
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    08-30-2012 10:22 AM
  10. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    Ah Nokia...feeling tad bit nostalgic so please excuse me.

    I had the Nokia N Gage not (QD). It blew its modern day counterpart Sammy, out of water with its design and style and class.

    In my early days in advertising, I was told that people are so loyal that they leave a brand for anything. So true, I think, there is some sort of emotional connect with even things like these.
    Anyways, sorry...I know off topic.
    Mods, apologize in advance.

    PS: If HTC fails, I plan to go with Nokia. Am pretty happy (mind you, not excited or thrilled) with the Lumia range.
    08-30-2012 10:42 AM
  11. Big Supes's Avatar
    Ah Nokia...feeling tad bit nostalgic so please excuse me.



    I had the Nokia N Gage not (QD). It blew its modern day counterpart Sammy, out of water with its design and style and class.



    In my early days in advertising, I was told that people are so loyal that they leave a brand for anything. So true, I think, there is some sort of emotional connect with even things like these.

    Anyways, sorry...I know off topic.

    Mods, apologize in advance.



    PS: If HTC fails, I plan to go with Nokia. Am pretty happy (mind you, not excited or thrilled) with the Lumia range.

    ^^Its true 'ya know, although for me, I can do a U-turn on a brand if I feel mistreated as a consumer. Microsoft have never really trodden that line with me, however. I like the freedom they allow people in their eco-system, unlike Apple who are hellbent on taking over the planet.

    I'd say the only thing that would rock my Microsoft love boat would be moves like intrusive advertising. Although it's nothing too major (at this time) things like having an advert tile on my gold membership Xbox homescreen can be the start of the end. I gave Apple and Google plenty of strikes before divorcing them. As for Sony, well... they just completely forgot how to make a console with the PS3 and I have never really rated their laptops or television sets.
    08-30-2012 11:02 AM
  12. Big Supes's Avatar
    More piccies (in black) via Windows Phone Facebook:



    08-30-2012 12:37 PM
  13. power5's Avatar
    Looks like an iPhone 2g/3g/3gs. Sure, button is square.

    Like the materials, do not like the phone.

    Seems like the razor has been the only phone to have really not done a rectangle with just differing radius rounded corners.
    08-30-2012 12:44 PM
  14. poiman's Avatar
    Not sure how that helps...it doesn't list all the specs of the phone nor does it have a great picture or 360 view of the phone. the below link seems to point to HDMI...
    Samsung Announces ATIV Windows 8, Phone 8 Devices

    Samsung ATIV S
    4.8-inch HD Super AMOLED
    1.5 GHz dual-core SoC
    HSPA+ 42Mbps 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
    EDGE/GPRS 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
    8MP Rear Auto Focus Camera with LED Flash
    1.9MP Front VT Camera
    A-GPS
    Gloness
    Bluetooth 4.0
    USB 2.0 Host
    Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n (2.4 & 5 GHz)
    Wi-Fi Direct
    Wi-Fi Channel Bonding
    3.5mm earjack
    Micro HDMI
    NFC
    2 GB of RAM
    32 or 64 GB of internal storage
    microSD Card SLot Up to 64 GB
    Accelerometer, Geomagnetic, Ambient Light, Gyroscope, and Grip Sensors
    Standard battery, Li-ion 8,200mAh
    Look again at the picture I posted. To the phone itself and not to the specs on its left. There is a 4G icon...
    08-30-2012 12:51 PM
  15. power5's Avatar
    4g is not LTE. LTE is 4g though. My titan says 4g... all the time unless I am on E. Titan does not have 4g LTE, it only has 4g.
    08-30-2012 12:55 PM
  16. poiman's Avatar
    4g is not LTE. LTE is 4g though. My titan says 4g... all the time unless I am on E. Titan does not have 4g LTE, it only has 4g.
    So what's the difference between 4G and 3.5G?

    EDIT: Actually I made some research:

    2G

    Thousands of protocols implemented from 1990 to 2000
    Provides mobile technologies GSM, TDMA and CDMA
    Generation that gave life to SMS
    Enables data encryption


    2.5G

    Intermediate step between 2G and 3G (obvious means)
    Provides data transmission of 56 kbit / sa 115 kbp / s
    Allows WAP browsing, MMS sending and IPv4 services (internet)
    Data transmission technology: GPRS


    2.75G

    Name marketer (Almost 3G) and implemented in 2003
    Achieves data transfer rates up to 236.8 kbit / s
    Data transmission technology: EDGE


    3G

    In a 3G network is able to talk and transmit data simultaneously
    Allows internet, mobile TV and video calls
    Achieves data transfer rates up to 2 mb / s
    Data transmission technology: W-CDMA


    3.5G

    3G is basically enhanced
    Achieves transmission speeds (theoretical) up to 14 mb / s
    Data transmission technology: HSDPA
    Almost all 3G networks are 3.5G networks


    3.75G

    Powered 3.5G (also known as 3.9G)
    Data transmission technology: HSUPA


    4G

    Standard not completely standardized (WTF)
    Wi-Max and LTE protocols that will come more
    IPv6 Support
    Requires speeds of 100 mb / s on the move of 1 GB / s at rest
    "Change of hand" (handoff) Soft between different antennas
    QoS Support
    Designed to transmit HD video and streaming
    Low latency, ideal for online gaming
    Last edited by poiman; 08-30-2012 at 01:44 PM.
    08-30-2012 01:37 PM
  17. power5's Avatar
    If you mean HSPA+ that is what my titan is. Its the stop gap between 3g and LTE. Never heard of 3.5g.
    08-30-2012 01:41 PM
  18. Mitlov's Avatar
    Looks like an iPhone 2g/3g/3gs. Sure, button is square.

    Like the materials, do not like the phone.

    Seems like the razor has been the only phone to have really not done a rectangle with just differing radius rounded corners.
    Lumia 900 isn't a rounded rectangle from the front; its corners are basically sharp. On the other hand, its' cross-section is much more rounded than the iPhone and pals. A very different shape.

    And while the Titan 2 is a rounded rectangle from the front, it's side-view is so remarkable (protruding camera, curved bottom) that no one could ever call it an iPhone-inspired design.
    08-30-2012 01:52 PM
  19. poiman's Avatar
    If you mean HSPA+ that is what my titan is. Its the stop gap between 3g and LTE. Never heard of 3.5g.
    My Nokia N8 has always a 3.5G icon...
    08-30-2012 02:04 PM
  20. CDG's Avatar
    AT&T refers their 3.5g as 4g optimistically, due to the standards not being clear for 4g. My Lumia is a LTE device and it clearly shows 4G LTE in LTE areas and just 4G in non.

    The Ativ S is not LTE, at least not the specs that are out for it now. It could very well be for the non-US market initially with LTE added in later for the US market
    08-30-2012 02:09 PM
  21. poiman's Avatar
    AT&T refers their 3.5g as 4g optimistically, due to the standards not being clear for 4g. My Lumia is a LTE device and it clearly shows 4G LTE in LTE areas and just 4G in non.

    The Ativ S is not LTE, at least not the specs that are out for it now. It could very well be for the non-US market initially with LTE added in later for the US market
    Ok, because in Europe when we reffer to 4G we mean LTE. At least many carriers made the move to LTE this year but they advertise it as 4G.
    08-30-2012 02:17 PM
  22. wolf1891's Avatar
    meh...

    on paper I like the specs of this one but... personally it just doesn't sell itself to me so, even if this one does come to t-mo I'll still probably pass on it (will need to see one in person and have it in hand for a bit before I can say for sure on that but, the current inclination is to skip it).
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    08-30-2012 02:23 PM
  23. 12Danny123's Avatar
    meh...

    on paper I like the specs of this one but... personally it just doesn't sell itself to me so, even if this one does come to t-mo I'll still probably pass on it (will need to see one in person and have it in hand for a bit before I can say for sure on that but, the current inclination is to skip it).
    But I do think's gonna sell a lot for comsumers. Especially t-mobile users
    08-30-2012 02:42 PM
  24. power5's Avatar
    Lumia 900 isn't a rounded rectangle from the front; its corners are basically sharp. On the other hand, its' cross-section is much more rounded than the iPhone and pals. A very different shape.

    And while the Titan 2 is a rounded rectangle from the front, it's side-view is so remarkable (protruding camera, curved bottom) that no one could ever call it an iPhone-inspired design.
    True, there are a few others. Didn't mean to exclude those. Almost all are rectangles from the front except the Razr though, and that was what I meant most. But I guess you could consider the Razr to have asymmetrically chamfered corners.
    08-30-2012 04:22 PM
  25. DontHate707's Avatar
    The design is alright im glad it's not plastic but im loving the overall specs! Now it's time for HTC and Nokia.

    Even tho im stuck on sprint and we most likely won't get these devices until later but im very excited for all this news more w8p pleaseee :)
    08-30-2012 05:21 PM
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