09-02-2012 02:52 AM
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  1. TheHeroFromDOOM's Avatar
    The phone looks orgasmic. I love it. Im not gonna get it becuase it has no keyboard. But is this considered a high end phone? I love Samsung and Nokia, they are my favs. This makes me happy to see a windows 8 phone, shows that we are doing good. Just gets me mad they couldent just add a keyobard to it.
    08-30-2012 06:16 PM
  2. SSK the Gr8's Avatar
    if the speeds are over 40 mbps then it is classified as 4G. It's not any pariticular technology.
    Wimax and LTE fall in 4g. Dual-Cell_HSDPA is also 4G because it is capable of speeds upto 42mbps.

    HSPA(21 mbps and 28.8 mbps) is 3.5g

    I hope this clears it for all
    08-31-2012 04:39 AM
  3. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    08-31-2012 07:04 AM
  4. power5's Avatar
    if the speeds are over 40 mbps then it is classified as 4G. It's not any pariticular technology.
    Wimax and LTE fall in 4g. Dual-Cell_HSDPA is also 4G because it is capable of speeds upto 42mbps.

    HSPA(21 mbps and 28.8 mbps) is 3.5g

    I hope this clears it for all
    Why is my phone called a 4g then? I have never ever seen speeds anywhere near 28.8. I think my fastest ever cell data bandwidth test was around 5Mbps and that was in a top end "4g" ATT area. Actually, I guess the phone can maybe receive that speed, but its ATT who is outright lying when they say they have 4G areas? In the same area, my brother's 4s could still only get 7Mbps. That is 1/3 the speed of 3.5g and its supposed to be 4g.
    08-31-2012 07:31 AM
  5. Mr. MacPhisto's Avatar
    Having used LTE Android phones for VZW, I'm looking forward to a LTE phone on their network for WP8. I do know that that is part of the requirement for any new Windows Phone to be on their network.

    So if a version of this Samsung is slated for VZW (and they do have a Samsung phone coming) then it will be LTE on their network for data.
    08-31-2012 09:21 AM
  6. Timture's Avatar
    May very well be my next phone. Color me impressed.
    08-31-2012 12:13 PM
  7. Narr's Avatar
    Oh look it's a big grey phone..... sorry but I've seen enough of those.
    08-31-2012 01:38 PM
  8. squire777's Avatar
    Personally I'm not going to buy a phone because it looks flashy. I really don't have the urge to show off my phone to random strangers and hope they say, "oh wow your phone looks awesome!". I care more about the specs and how well it works because after all i'm not going to sit there and stare at the shape of my phone. So with that said I really don't care if the Ativ S looks like every other phone out there as long as it's good quality.

    At the same time a phone shouldn't be butt ugly either and pleasing to the user's eye.
    08-31-2012 03:24 PM
  9. wolf1891's Avatar
    But I do think's gonna sell a lot for comsumers. Especially t-mobile users
    true... I'm just saying that the look of this one isn't really doing anything for me but, if it pushes the right buttons for others and they want to line up to buy tons of these then I've got no problem with that at all. (buy what YOU like, not just whatever everyone else is liking this week)
    08-31-2012 03:42 PM
  10. 12Danny123's Avatar
    true... I'm just saying that the look of this one isn't really doing anything for me but, if it pushes the right buttons for others and they want to line up to buy tons of these then I've got no problem with that at all. (buy what YOU like, not just whatever everyone else is liking this week)
    Well. It depends on the person. Also I do thinkm sammy is gonna divertissement this. They stated that they want to neat nokia for the best OEM in wimdows phone market. So maybe they will advertise this heavily
    08-31-2012 05:10 PM
  11. Mitlov's Avatar
    Well. It depends on the person. Also I do thinkm sammy is gonna divertissement this. They stated that they want to neat nokia for the best OEM in wimdows phone market. So maybe they will advertise this heavily
    All they really need to do to beat Nokia is to offer their products through every major carrier. Compare the Galaxy S3 (every major carrier, including some smaller carriers like US Cellular) and the comparable-quality HTC One X (AT&T and maybe one other, or maybe just AT&T). I for one refuse to switch from US Cellular to AT&T to get a Nokia flagship. I didn't do it with the Lumia 900 and I won't do it for WP8. If Nokia doesn't sell the 920 (or any phones) on US Cellular or Verizon, the two carriers with decent rural coverage, it'll be really easy for Samsung to dominate WP8 outside of major metro areas.
    08-31-2012 05:14 PM
  12. 12Danny123's Avatar
    All they really need to do to beat Nokia is to offer their products through every major carrier. Compare the Galaxy S3 (every major carrier, including some smaller carriers like US Cellular) and the comparable-quality HTC One X (AT&T and maybe one other, or maybe just AT&T). I for one refuse to switch from US Cellular to AT&T to get a Nokia flagship. I didn't do it with the Lumia 900 and I won't do it for WP8. If Nokia doesn't sell the 920 (or any phones) on US Cellular or Verizon, the two carriers with decent rural coverage, it'll be really easy for Samsung to dominate WP8 outside of major metro areas.
    Well samsung will easily dominate USA with their Samsung ativ S. But it's likely they will advertise it and launch it for multiple carriers. More like this Nokia for worldwide and Samsung for north America and asia
    08-31-2012 05:24 PM
  13. Mitlov's Avatar
    Well samsung will easily dominate USA with their Samsung ativ S. But it's likely they will advertise it and launch it for multiple carriers. More like this Nokia for worldwide and Samsung for north America and asia
    Good point, I had just been thinking the US market, where Nokia's efforts to get their phones on multiple carriers have been decidedly half-hearted, and Samsung's have been best-in-industry. I don't know much about the cell phone market outside of the US.
    08-31-2012 07:07 PM
  14. Rico's Avatar
    These are the correct specs for the Ativ S:


    Network
    HSPA+ 42Mbps 850/900/1900/2100MHz
    EDGE/GPRS 850/900/1800/1900MHz

    Processor
    1.5 GHz dual-core processor

    Display
    4.8 inch (121.9mm ) HD Super AMOLED

    OS
    Windows Phone 8

    Camera
    Main(Rear): 8 Megapixel Auto Focus Camera with LED Flash
    Sub(Front): 1.9 Megapixel VT Camera


    Video
    Codec: H.263, H.264, WMV, MP4, M4V, MOV
    Full HD(1080p) Playback & Recording

    Audio
    Codec: MP3, WMA, MP4, M4A, AAC
    3.5mm Ear Jack

    Sharing Features
    Tap + Send (File sharing with NFC and BT/Wi-Fi)

    Samsung Family Story

    Content Features & Services
    Samsung ChatOn mobile communication service
    Samsung Hub
    - Music Hub *
    - Media Hub* (US only)
    Samsung Zone (in Windows Phone Marketplace)
    Photo Editor
    Mini Diary
    Now (Daily Briefing)

    GPS
    A-GPS
    Glonass

    Connectivity
    Bluetooth 3.0
    USB 2.0
    Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n (2.4 & 5 GHz), Wi-Fi Direct, Wi-Fi Channel Bonding
    NFC
    3.5mm earjack

    Sensor
    Proximity, Accelerometer, Geomagnetic, Ambient Light, Gyroscope

    Memory
    16/32GB User memory + 1GB RAM
    microSD (SDXC support)

    Dimension
    137.2 x 70.5 x 8.7 mm, 135g

    Battery
    Standard battery, Li-ion 2,300mAh

    via: Samsung Mobile Press

    Note there's no USB host, Bluetooth 4.0, etc. as mentioned ealier.
    08-31-2012 07:24 PM
  15. squire777's Avatar
    Seeing it in the video posted on the main site does it justice compared to the pics. The thin form factor, and metal body look great.
    08-31-2012 08:40 PM
  16. Reflexx's Avatar
    Good point, I had just been thinking the US market, where Nokia's efforts to get their phones on multiple carriers have been decidedly half-hearted, and Samsung's have been best-in-industry. I don't know much about the cell phone market outside of the US.
    Verizon didn't want Windows Phone. It wasn't about Nokia's effort.

    How many carriers did Samsung have Windows Phone handsets with?
    08-31-2012 08:59 PM
  17. Reflexx's Avatar
    I wonder if Samsung has any plans for an LTE enabled handset this year.

    I thought that after the Titan II and Lumia 900 were released, LTE was going to be a standard for a company's flagship WP device.
    08-31-2012 09:02 PM
  18. mrkalel's Avatar
    I really would love to feel this device in person... I am assuming from the look of it, it squeezes a 4.8" screen in a smaller width than the S3? (Somehow matching the GNex width?)...

    That would be impressive...
    08-31-2012 09:08 PM
  19. Mitlov's Avatar
    Verizon didn't want Windows Phone. It wasn't about Nokia's effort.
    Verizon Is Said to Offer Nokia Windows 8 Phone This Year - Bloomberg

    How many carriers did Samsung have Windows Phone handsets with?
    Not many...but Samsung never had a WP model like the Ativ S before, and Samsung never had an incentive like the Apple v. Samsung verdict to explore non-Android smartphones before.
    08-31-2012 09:11 PM
  20. Reflexx's Avatar
    Verizon Is Said to Offer Nokia Windows 8 Phone This Year - Bloomberg

    Not many...but Samsung never had a WP model like the Ativ S before, and Samsung never had an incentive like the Apple v. Samsung verdict to explore non-Android smartphones before.
    Windows Phone 8 is a whole new ball game.

    We'll see if Samsung has really increases their commitment or not. And we'll see if it comes close to matching Nokia's commitment.

    I do hope they bring it this time. Not quite sure if they will.

    HTC has shown more commitment to WP in the past than Samsung. But Samsung makes better phones than HTC in my opinion.
    08-31-2012 09:20 PM
  21. 12Danny123's Avatar
    Verizon didn't want Windows Phone. It wasn't about Nokia's effort.

    How many carriers did Samsung have Windows Phone handsets with?
    well they are with it now. because Verizon is now committed with wp now. and since the Samsung Ativ S will likely be the biggest seller Wp in US after Nokia Lumia Pureview . So I really think that the Samsung Ativ S is going to multiple carriers
    08-31-2012 09:33 PM
  22. Mitlov's Avatar
    Today, Apple filed another patent suit in US federal court, comparable to the one that they just succeeded in. But this one deals with newer devices, including the Galaxy S3. Apple is trying to ban Galaxy S3 sales as part of the suit.

    If Samsung wasn't already planning on pushing the Ativ S heavily, you bet your butt they are now.
    08-31-2012 10:34 PM
  23. 12Danny123's Avatar
    Today, Apple filed another patent suit in US federal court, comparable to the one that they just succeeded in. But this one deals with newer devices, including the Galaxy S3. Apple is trying to ban Galaxy S3 sales as part of the suit.

    If Samsung wasn't already planning on pushing the Ativ S heavily, you bet your butt they are now.
    source? really?. if yes then Samsung is screwed. they are distancing even more from Google
    08-31-2012 10:41 PM
  24. Mitlov's Avatar
    source? really?. if yes then Samsung is screwed. they are distancing even more from Google
    The Verge...pretty reputable.

    Apple turns up the pressure on Samsung, adds more devices to second patent suit | The Verge

    According to an amended complaint filed today, Apple is naming "at least 21 new smartphones, media players, and tablets that Samsung has released beginning in August 2011 and continuing through August 2012." (The full list, which actually consists of 22 devices, is reproduced below). Some of the devices named were also part of the just-concluded trial, but are being named here because Apple is citing a different set of utility patents — eight of them in total.
    ...
    •Galaxy S III
    •Galaxy S III (Verizon)
    •Galaxy Note
    •Galaxy S II Skyrocket
    •Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch
    •Galaxy S II
    •Galaxy S II (T-Mobile)
    •Galaxy S II (AT&T)
    •Galaxy Nexus
    •Illusion
    •Captivate Glide
    •Exhibit II 4G
    •Stratosphere
    •Transform Ultra
    •Admire
    •Conquer 4G
    •Dart
    •Galaxy Player 4.0
    •Galaxy Player 5.0
    •Galaxy Note 10.1
    •Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus
    •Galaxy Tab 8.9
    Ativ S and Ativ tablets = survival plan, if you ask me. Between the possibility of an injunction on the S3 and treble damages on the devices that were part of the last trial (which would boost the total damages award over $3 billion), not to mention zero support from Google, I'd be rethinking my Android emphasis if I was Samsung.
    Last edited by Mitlov; 08-31-2012 at 11:16 PM.
    08-31-2012 11:06 PM
  25. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    The Verge...pretty reputable.

    Apple turns up the pressure on Samsung, adds more devices to second patent suit | The Verge



    Ativ S and Ativ tablets = survival plan, if you ask me. Between the possibility of an injunction on the S3 and treble damages on the devices that were part of the last trial (which would boost the total damages award over $3 billion), not to mention zero support from Google, I'd be rethinking my Android emphasis if I was Samsung.
    Me too. All the profits Sammy made with Android is going back to zero. Thanks to Apple.
    I have to say that at some point, I agree with Apple. Now that u look at Sammy's phones, they have a bit of an iPhone in it. Anyways, that's not for me to judge.

    But yes, Sammy could just be another Nokia. In the sense if Apple's dream comes true, Sammy will be nowhere with Android and all it will have is either
    "Bada" or WP. And clearly WP will be much much much better....



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