09-04-2012 02:09 PM
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  1. mb-dape's Avatar
    Regardless of megapixels, if the 920 does not crush every Android and iPhone camera out there I will call it a BIG disappointment.

    Then I will look at HTC first and maybe Samsung when/if I am going for a WP8 device.

    Wireless charging wont sell many phones, if the phone recharge slower why shouldnt I just plug in the normal charger? The wireless charger still need to be plugged in anyway.

    If the camera is just on pair or slightly better then the other phones, I think Nokia will have a hard time outselling Samsung and HTC.
    09-03-2012 04:42 PM
  2. mb-dape's Avatar
    I was thinking, wouldnt it be better for Nokia to make something a little more different from the WP7 Lumias? There is nothing wrong about the design, I think it is a good looking phone, but my first thought was, "I have seen that before", and I dont think that is what WP/Nokia needs right now.

    WP8 is such a big step from WP7. When MS are going to promote all the new features, wouldnt it be more startling to combine it with all new Lumias too?

    I think a lot of potential buyers will look at it and think of the lame WP7, even the names are too similar, and thats just not fair when the 920/WP8 will be a much, much better phone then the 900.

    What do you think?
    09-03-2012 04:56 PM
  3. jhoff80's Avatar
    Why the flagship wouldn't include this feature is perplexing.

    Granted, I haven't even used the 16 GB on my Titan. And cloud integration is supposed to be much tighter in WP8. But still... carriers aren't all that generous when it comes to data use. So it would be nice to have as much as possible locally.
    Well, In my case, I've got something like 10GB of games and apps installed already. That means on my Lumia 900 I'm down to something like 3GB for music. What I really like about the idea of having the 32GB plus microSD is that I could reserve the internal 32GB for apps and then fill a 64GB microSD with music. Yes, I use Zune Pass now anyway, but it really is nice to have nearly all of my music collection locally instead of having to stream everything all the time.

    But, it sounds like maybe the 920 is only going to be the 32GB, which would be a little disappointing.

    As for the above mentioned post about HDMI out, I wondered this aloud in the frontpage comments for an Ativ S post (which doesn't have HDMI out listed in its specs, despite the Galaxy S3 having it via an MHL connector); does WP8 even support video out? I know we've read there will be remote desktop-like capabilities for viewing the screen of your phone on a PC, but I'd really love HDMI out for those rare occasions when I want to display my phone's screen on a (non-networked) TV, like when visiting family and showing them pictures or something.
    09-03-2012 05:04 PM
  4. mb-dape's Avatar
    Well, In my case, I've got something like 10GB of games and apps installed already. That means on my Lumia 900 I'm down to something like 3GB for music. What I really like about the idea of having the 32GB plus microSD is that I could reserve the internal 32GB for apps and then fill a 64GB microSD with music. Yes, I use Zune Pass now anyway, but it really is nice to have nearly all of my music collection locally instead of having to stream everything all the time.

    But, it sounds like maybe the 920 is only going to be the 32GB, which would be a little disappointing.
    There is another situation where I find removable storage very handy. When I am on a vacation or on the road with my camera, I can just plug the memory card from the camera (micro SD in a standard SD adapter) in to my phone and upload the photos to Skydrive/Dropbox or even publish them online within minutes without my laptop! :)
    09-03-2012 05:22 PM
  5. Winterfang's Avatar
    The 920 should match the Ativ specks, add a better camera and price of it wants to succeed.
    09-03-2012 05:37 PM
  6. KingCrimson's Avatar
    The wireless charging is only good if it's fast.
    09-03-2012 05:43 PM
  7. jhoff80's Avatar
    The wireless charging is only good if it's fast.
    On my Pre, it was the same speed to charge wirelessly as it was with the microUSB plugged in. That being said, I found that I put it on the charger more frequently when I had wireless charging than I do now, which means to me at least, speed isn't quite that big a factor in it.
    09-03-2012 05:45 PM
  8. KingCrimson's Avatar
    On my Pre, it was the same speed to charge wirelessly as it was with the microUSB plugged in. That being said, I found that I put it on the charger more frequently when I had wireless charging than I do now, which means to me at least, speed isn't quite that big a factor in it.
    Sure it's a little easier to simply put the phone down on a block then to hassle plugging it in every night.
    09-03-2012 05:48 PM
  9. jhoff80's Avatar
    Sure it's a little easier to simply put the phone down on a block then to hassle plugging it in every night.
    It wasn't just that. I had one at my desk at work, and whenever I wasn't actively using my phone, it was just on the charger. Now, with my Lumia 900, it's usually in my pocket when I'm at my desk, despite having the microUSB charger, since it's slightly more of a hassle to plug in every time when I sit down and unplug when I get up (I'm not at my desk about half of the day).
    09-03-2012 06:03 PM
  10. Reflexx's Avatar
    It wasn't just that. I had one at my desk at work, and whenever I wasn't actively using my phone, it was just on the charger. Now, with my Lumia 900, it's usually in my pocket when I'm at my desk, despite having the microUSB charger, since it's slightly more of a hassle to plug in every time when I sit down and unplug when I get up (I'm not at my desk about half of the day).
    That makes perfect sense.

    If there is a common spot in the daytime that someone normally lays their phone, it can be a convenient charging spot without even have to think about it. Just lay it down and pick it up as many times as you want throughout the day.
    09-03-2012 08:53 PM
  11. Winterfang's Avatar
    Yeah is a hassle. My best friend loves to text me late a night when my phone is charging. The cord is short so it makes me mad.
    09-03-2012 09:28 PM
  12. Rico's Avatar
    What really sucks is that the 820 has pretty much everything I want -- it's smaller and likely cheaper than the 920, looks to have a more single-handed friendly grip, expandable storage, and replaceable backs. The last point is superimportant to me because I really want a red phone, and now this means I my phone and theme won't clash, unlike with the red 920. The one thing it won't have is the best camera available for the new Lumias.

    The fifth can't get here soon enough. So much to decide.
    09-03-2012 09:39 PM
  13. Sparkyscrum's Avatar
    Well, In my case, I've got something like 10GB of games and apps installed already. That means on my Lumia 900 I'm down to something like 3GB for music. What I really like about the idea of having the 32GB plus microSD is that I could reserve the internal 32GB for apps and then fill a 64GB microSD with music. Yes, I use Zune Pass now anyway, but it really is nice to have nearly all of my music collection locally instead of having to stream everything all the time.

    But, it sounds like maybe the 920 is only going to be the 32GB, which would be a little disappointing.
    I'm hoping that the 920 has an SD slot. I've currently got a HTC Pro 7 and the 8GB is used up so quickly. And thats without videos or music. The idea of having a 720 capable screen means I will like to have some HD material on my next phone but if I'm limited to 32GB overall I may struggle to have much worthwhile HD on it then.

    Even my Blackberry Torch has a 32GB SD card in it plus 8GB inbuilt.
    09-03-2012 11:03 PM
  14. Winterfang's Avatar
    What really sucks is that the 820 has pretty much everything I want -- it's smaller and likely cheaper than the 920, looks to have a more single-handed friendly grip, expandable storage, and replaceable backs. The last point is superimportant to me because I really want a red phone, and now this means I my phone and theme won't clash, unlike with the red 920. The one thing it won't have is the best camera available for the new Lumias.

    The fifth can't get here soon enough. So much to decide.
    There's a chance both the 820 and 920 had the same Camera. Like on those One phones, the screen will be smaller and probably had the same 800x480 resolution (I hope not)
    09-04-2012 01:20 AM
  15. AngryNil's Avatar
    There is nothing compromising about choosing a person's personal preferences as long as they are his/her own.
    No, that is simply not what "no compromises" signifies. It should not be used to communicate "I want a device that perfectly fits my specific lifestyle", such usage is hyperbolic and overdramatisation.
    09-04-2012 02:12 AM
  16. Winterfang's Avatar
    Hey, did you guys see this?

    *From this very own site*
    Nokia's photography chief shouts out against Pureview and Lumia 920 camera criticism | wpcentral | Windows Phone News, Forums, and Reviews

    That pretty much confirms that the 920 won't be as good as the 808. I really dislike this but they sold me on the 820 with something as silly as removable covers go figure lol. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt so far.
    09-04-2012 08:44 AM
  17. Big Supes's Avatar
    I'm still stoked for tomorrows show and can't wait to get my hands on a Nokia Pureview Wp8 device.
    09-04-2012 09:56 AM
  18. sinime's Avatar
    Hey, did you guys see this?

    *From this very own site*
    Nokia's photography chief shouts out against Pureview and Lumia 920 camera criticism | wpcentral | Windows Phone News, Forums, and Reviews

    That pretty much confirms that the 920 won't be as good as the 808. I really dislike this but they sold me on the 820 with something as silly as removable covers go figure lol. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt so far.
    But it also allegedly has a better photo sensor than the 808... So it may take just as good of a picture.. http://www.windowscentral.com/nokia-...review-cameras

    Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
    09-04-2012 10:08 AM
  19. Winterfang's Avatar
    Tomorrow is going to be amazing. I'm already hyped, I just hope they don't disappoint too much.
    09-04-2012 10:12 AM
  20. jhoff80's Avatar
    I also kind of hope that the device when we see it tomorrow has a physical Windows button like the Ativ-S. For one, Microsoft is requiring a physical button on all its tablets, so it'd be more consistent, but also, I just hate the capacitive buttons.
    09-04-2012 11:43 AM
  21. mb-dape's Avatar
    Hm... The customers are excited and looking forward to a feature, and then Nokia tells them to "get over it"?

    The Lumias have to be something really special or I will look at HTC and Samsung instead.
    09-04-2012 11:53 AM
  22. austrianball#IM's Avatar
    So I really want the 920 but I'm assuming At&t are going to get that and I am currently on tmobile with my 710. Are we thinking that the 920 will behave just like the 900 and 800 on tmobiles network? As in only getting 2g speed...
    09-04-2012 12:00 PM
  23. GoodThings2Life's Avatar
    I've accepted the news as it has leaked... and I'm willing to accept the possibility of an 8MP camera (not what I want, just ready to cope), and I'm still really excited. If it has the higher MP's on the camera, that would make it a "killer feature" along with the Augmented Reality and NFC sharing capabilities. Wireless charging will likely be an accessory option, so I wouldn't call that a killer feature, just a really awesome option, and the color choices are like the icing on the cake.

    My only concern at this point is the carrier choices. I think Nokia should skip the exclusives and make the 920 and 820 available on all carriers, and don't limit color choices this time around. My hunch is that the 920 will be AT&T-only for 3 months, and the 820 will show up everywhere.
    09-04-2012 02:09 PM
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