09-17-2012 01:54 AM
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  1. scottcraft's Avatar
    I'm having a tough time getting past the whole no gorilla glass thing to give it a serious look.
    That and screen res I just can't go with the 820 on T-MO
    The only issues I really have with the 820 are the camera, screen resolution and no gorilla glass. If Verizon doesn't get the 920 I will give serious thought to getting the 820, unless HTC really blows me away with their WP offerings. Samsung isn't really in the discussion for me with the weaker reception of their phones.
    09-16-2012 05:22 PM
  2. Winterfang's Avatar
    The radar was a good device, the mid range and low end HTC device should he decent if they follow the One line of specks.
    09-16-2012 05:46 PM
  3. brmiller1976's Avatar
    Right now, HSPA+ is the best radio option for quad-core. T-Mo is serious about getting bragging rights against the big carriers, so the "Zenith" makes a lot of sense for magenta.

    I know I'll get a little bit of pleasure out of saying "yeah, my phone's modem is about as fast as yours, but I have FOUR cores" to all the AT&T and Verizon people out there, and also pointing out that I have uncapped everything for less than half the price of 3 or 4 gigs of data on their network.

    But I'm obnoxious that way. :D
    09-16-2012 09:27 PM
  4. scottcraft's Avatar
    Right now, HSPA+ is the best radio option for quad-core. T-Mo is serious about getting bragging rights against the big carriers, so the "Zenith" makes a lot of sense for magenta.

    I know I'll get a little bit of pleasure out of saying "yeah, my phone's modem is about as fast as yours, but I have FOUR cores" to all the AT&T and Verizon people out there, and also pointing out that I have uncapped everything for less than half the price of 3 or 4 gigs of data on their network.

    But I'm obnoxious that way. :D
    Fortunately for you you're in an area where T-Mobile works. I would love to switch, but their service isn't very good where I'm at, so I'll stick with Verizon.
    09-16-2012 11:21 PM
  5. brmiller1976's Avatar
    Don't get me wrong -- you shouldn't have your carrier determine which device you use. If you prefer Big Red, you should be able to get whatever you want. Apple and Samsung have both shown how effective that strategy is.
    09-17-2012 12:55 AM
  6. alpinestars1z's Avatar
    Right now, HSPA+ is the best radio option for quad-core. T-Mo is serious about getting bragging rights against the big carriers, so the "Zenith" makes a lot of sense for magenta.

    I know I'll get a little bit of pleasure out of saying "yeah, my phone's modem is about as fast as yours, but I have FOUR cores" to all the AT&T and Verizon people out there, and also pointing out that I have uncapped everything for less than half the price of 3 or 4 gigs of data on their network.

    But I'm obnoxious that way. :D
    Good for T-Mobile, I really want to see them succeed because I think AT&T and Verizon charge too much and I hate how Verizon is forcing people into their shared data plans. T-Mobile's HSPA+ isn't that far behind AT&T's LTE.

    Report: T-Mobile’s HSPA+ almost as fast as AT&T’s LTE | RootMetrics
    09-17-2012 01:06 AM
  7. brmiller1976's Avatar
    To be fair, a friend visiting me from New York brought his Galaxy Note on AT&T with him.

    We did a 4G speed test, head-to-head. My little Radar is limited to HSPA 14.4, his GN has full LTE.

    My download stream was 7.6 Mbit/second, upload was 2.2. His downstream was 38 Mbit/second, upstream was 11.1!

    HSPA+42 would have made a big difference, and the Radar is getting a little creaky as the "high end Windows Phone on T-Mobile." And I say that as someone who loves his little Radar.

    The new stuff cannot come soon enough.
    09-17-2012 01:37 AM
  8. alpinestars1z's Avatar
    To be fair, a friend visiting me from New York brought his Galaxy Note on AT&T with him.

    We did a 4G speed test, head-to-head. My little Radar is limited to HSPA 14.4, his GN has full LTE.

    My download stream was 7.6 Mbit/second, upload was 2.2. His downstream was 38 Mbit/second, upstream was 11.1!

    HSPA+42 would have made a big difference, and the Radar is getting a little creaky as the "high end Windows Phone on T-Mobile." And I say that as someone who loves his little Radar.

    The new stuff cannot come soon enough.
    In some places the LTE network is new enough that there isn't really anyone on it, which is why he's getting such insane speeds. Verizon, on the other hand, just has lots of spectrum.

    Let's see what happens when everyone gets the LTE iPhone, and what happens to LTE speeds. I'm not saying the speeds are going to drop off a cliff, but it'll be interesting. To me at least, because I like this kind of stuff.
    09-17-2012 01:49 AM
  9. brmiller1976's Avatar
    True. T-Mo's 28 million users are on a network with as much bandwidth as the AT&T one with 100 million. Should mean lots of freaky-fast speed for Magneta-Men once we get our sexy HSPA+42 WPs. :)
    09-17-2012 01:54 AM
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