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  1. LiveTail's Avatar
    Here's my problem...

    I'm due for a hardware upgrade, but the more time that has passed since the handsets were introduced, the less excited I'm getting to upgrade.

    I might just grab the 7.8 update and hold out for 2nd gen devices. We all saw what happened with the Mango handsets (Titan/Titan II).

    It feels more and more to me like HTC hasn't shown their high end phone yet and there is a rumor out there that Microsoft will be releasing their own 'Surface Phone' in early 2013.

    Microsoft working on its own Windows Phone 8 smartphone? | Mobile content industry news | Mobile Entertainment

    For those two reasons alone, I'm more inclined to wait it out a bit.

    Anyone else feeling the same way, or is it just me???
    I totally understand you. For me, the 1st gen devices are too big, too heavy and not really sexy. I bet my money on a slim and sexy magnesium surface phone in summer 2013.
    10-31-2012 05:03 PM
  2. dgr_874's Avatar
    Yup, I'm done watching this train wreck of a launch for another year. I held off buying anything for the last 6 months hoping Microsoft and it's partners could get off to a good start. I guess I was wrong...
    10-31-2012 11:26 PM
  3. bsmerl's Avatar
    It makes financial sense to upgrade if you're with a major US carrier.

    The phone subsidy is built into the monthly rates. But even if you don't subsidize a phone, you still pay the subsidized rates.

    So when you don't upgrade, you're just basically paying extra money without receiving any benefit.
    I'm not in total agreement with your statement. I have an old contract with ATT and am paying $70/month (tax included) for 450 minutes and unlimmited text/data.

    If I sign new contract I would be paying $90+ a month for 2gb of data. I bought my titan for $350(new) when it was being offered by ATT for $199 with a new contract. With that said, I saved $20+/month and only paid $150 more for the phone(Unlocked/Unbranded).

    Before my Titan, I bought my Tilt2 for the same price as ATT was asking for a new contract.

    I tried Staright talk for $55/month and did not get the same quality of data or MMS with it so it was not worth it for me.

    Staying with a carrier and buying your phone outright has some nice advantages over signing a new contract...for some people and some circumstances.
    Last edited by bsmerl; 11-01-2012 at 10:50 AM. Reason: add more info
    11-01-2012 10:38 AM
  4. larrynj's Avatar
    You can keep your same plan when you upgrade. You don't have to pick a new plan.
    11-01-2012 11:15 AM
  5. Major's Avatar
    Given how 7.5 devices are not upgradeable to 8, MS should really consider working with carriers to provide early upgrades. Something tells me sales are going to be soft if they don't create an incentive for more current WP users to upgrade. I plan on waiting until the summer because my upgrade isn't available until then and none of the new devices seem worth buying at full price. If I could get one subsidized, however, I'd pull the trigger.
    11-01-2012 01:05 PM
  6. Major's Avatar
    You can keep your same plan when you upgrade. You don't have to pick a new plan.
    This is correct. I've been on the same grandfathered unlimited data plan for years and I've upgraded every chance I've had.
    11-01-2012 01:08 PM
  7. davec53's Avatar
    i was damned and determined to get a WP8 device by Black Friday. i am on a regional carrier (CDMA), and in addition to hardly ever getting any new phones, most of the ones they DO get are Motorola, which I am fed up with.

    my contract ends at the end of November, and i figured that Verizon would be all-in with Nokia and I'd be set to jump over to them. it seems like rumors of the 920 have been circulating forever now, and i just kept holding out hope that VZW would have it or a variant of it by the time my contract ends.

    as of right now, it does not look like that is going to happen. i do like the 8X, in some ways even more than the 920, especially the looks...but i have been drooling over the idea of the PureView and image stabilization, not to mention the exclusive Nokia apps, so while it may not be 2nd gen devices i'm waiting on, i do plan on at least holding off until after the first of the year to see what rumored devices are being mentioned for VZW.
    11-01-2012 01:41 PM
  8. MathiasVerden's Avatar
    I already have a 2nd Gen. device. I'm not getting a 3rd Gen. unless 7.8 is really limited.
    11-01-2012 01:51 PM
  9. independentvolume's Avatar
    Depends on the Samsung Odyssey. If it ain't fresh I probably will wait, unless the 8x gets me off.
    11-01-2012 02:02 PM
  10. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    To me, I really REALLY want Windows Phone 8 since way better apps will be coming (hopefully), but I will try to hold out for 7.8. I'm on Straight Talk with my Lumia 900, and I will be darned to switch to a contract where I pay $90+/month (after company discount) vs. $45/month for the same service (minus LTE). Add to that that I want to wait for a more powerful SOC. I'm fine with the dual core CPU, but the GPU (Adreno 225) is mad weak and not worth it to shell out full price for outdated hardware IMO (I'm a huge gamer on mobile phones). I pray that 7.8 won't take too long, but I know that won't be the case....

    Now, if AT&T would work with me to where my pricing is the same as Straight Talk.....
    11-02-2012 03:09 PM
  11. astraith's Avatar
    Here's my problem...

    I'm due for a hardware upgrade, but the more time that has passed since the handsets were introduced, the less excited I'm getting to upgrade.

    I might just grab the 7.8 update and hold out for 2nd gen devices. We all saw what happened with the Mango handsets (Titan/Titan II).

    It feels more and more to me like HTC hasn't shown their high end phone yet and there is a rumor out there that Microsoft will be releasing their own 'Surface Phone' in early 2013.

    Microsoft working on its own Windows Phone 8 smartphone? | Mobile content industry news | Mobile Entertainment

    For those two reasons alone, I'm more inclined to wait it out a bit.

    Anyone else feeling the same way, or is it just me???
    Well, personally, I am waiting because my dad -- who is buying my Sprint Epic Touch 4G -- can't until the new year, and since that's the case I am waiting until my taxes come. (I'm using that money to buy out my contract to go to ATT). Now, if by that time MS shows some freaking amazing device with a better camera, wireless charging, better screen and bigger battery -- then I'll probably wait. If they don't, then the Lumia 920 for me. I know by Oct 2013 my phone will be out of date. Thus is the life of buying technology. However, considering my first "marketable" phone I bought (meaning it had a name, and not a model number) was the Samsung Upstage, and I bought it for $149. That phone had less features and wasn't even a smartphone, and the Lumia 920 is a smartphone, with loads more features, and it's the same price. I really don't think I will complain if MS or Nokia or Samsung or HTC releases an uber-phone for $199 or more (on contract).
    11-02-2012 03:29 PM
  12. astraith's Avatar
    OP, I know exactly how you feel. When HTC and Nokia announced their new devices, I was sure that I would use my upgrade (which is available now) on a WP8 device. As time goes by, I get less excited and interested in them though. I'd also like to wait a bit to see how WP8 plays out before committing to the platform. I may use my upgrade on the next Android Nexus device and just buy a second-gen WP8 device off contract when they're released. I do have high hopes for the platform and look forward to jumping in someday in the near-ish future. :)
    The Nexus 4 is sold off contract. So go ahead and buy it, then get the next WP8 devices. It's really not a bad buy (the NExus 4).
    11-02-2012 03:33 PM
  13. A444's Avatar
    I have been holding off getting a new phone for a couple months waiting for WP8. I may break down and get an 8X but am more likely to pick up a Nexus 4 and wait for the next series of phones. The 920 interested me a lot but not nearly enough to switch to AT&T. I would switch to Sprint or a regional before I would go with AT&T.
    11-02-2012 09:48 PM
  14. WasteSomeTime's Avatar
    As much as it pains me I will wait a long time and may come into the WP 8 game late. I dont have the patience to go through the motions with Microsoft and the updates. For the amount of time everyone waited for WP 8. The phone should have very little problems, instead people can't wait for the features that should have been on the mobile OS already.

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    11-04-2012 09:29 PM
  15. rdubmu's Avatar
    I was thinking the same thing. Isn't WP8 second generation?



    Anyway, I waited for mango before I got my first windows phone. When I'm ready for a new phone I'll probably wait until the next big os release.
    GEN 1: HD7, focus, LG, Dell venue pro Mozart, trophy

    GEN 2: Radar, titan, titan 2, focus s, focus flash, lumia 710, lumia 800, lumia 900.

    GEN 3: Lumia 920, ativ s, 8x, 8s, lumia 820
    11-04-2012 09:50 PM
  16. mjrtoo's Avatar
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    11-05-2012 06:46 AM
  17. mjrtoo's Avatar
    GEN 1: HD7, focus, LG, Dell venue pro Mozart, trophy

    GEN 2: Radar, titan, titan 2, focus s, focus flash, lumia 710, lumia 800, lumia 900.

    GEN 3: Lumia 920, ativ s, 8x, 8s, lumia 820
    Wrong, different OS. What you call Gen 3 are the first generation of WP8.
    11-05-2012 06:48 AM
  18. jabtano's Avatar
    I have a good spot really I can upgrade my device now if I want to. And when the second gen comes out hand that device to my wife and take her device and upgrade it for me. =)
    11-05-2012 07:31 AM
  19. slpaige's Avatar
    I'm waiting until the 2nd Gen devices or next summer since that's the earliest I can upgrade. Hopefully some new devices will be announced earlier in the year next year.
    11-05-2012 08:59 AM
  20. GreekboyD's Avatar
    I am simply bored with ios and android. The wp8 seems to be a good alternative to keep me occupied for a while. I will get a 920 as soon as possible. 2nd gen wp device or not will have to depend on the experience I get from the 920...
    This is me exactly and the very reason I'm looking for a 1 year contract.
    11-05-2012 07:30 PM
  21. power5's Avatar
    Wrong, different OS. What you call Gen 3 are the first generation of WP8.
    Exactly. New phones are 3rd gen windows phone devices. But they are 1st gen WP8 devices. Both describe the same thing in a different way. I think describing them by OS device gen is more descriptive. Very hard to determine what a 1st gen wp is vs a 2nd gen. since phones came out between the originals and mango so which gen were they? Apple has 1st gen devices and 2nd gen devices. Their 1st gen is the new form. The 2nd gen is just the upgraded hardware and has usually has a letter after the number, or an extra letter in the case of the 3gs.
    11-06-2012 07:14 AM
  22. AngryNil's Avatar
    I'm probably going to skip this generation for the Surface phone or wait until some of these devices are cheap unlocked.
    11-06-2012 07:52 AM
  23. Reeves's Avatar
    Skipping WP8 was unthinkable to me prior to today as I assumed I'd either have a Lumia 920 or know the exact date.

    But with each passing day and my general happiness with the Lumia 900 as a free device from AT&T that's a serious upgrade from my HTC Arrive on Sprint.....I'm considering skipping for real.

    Not out of any juvenile spite to Nokia, HTC, AT&T, Verizon or Microsoft for completely fumbling the launch of the 8X and Lumia 920 in America. But rather because those devices have been aging since they were announced months ago, and if I'm going to drop $149 on a phone, I want it to be on the state-of-the-art.

    The Lumia 920 is losing that appeal with each passing day. The HTC 8X already lost it by being a repackaged version of the One X which was introduced in, what, March?
    11-06-2012 08:20 AM
  24. Reeves's Avatar
    And just like that, $99 with the charging pad flips me right around into grabbing this on launch day.
    11-06-2012 08:49 AM
  25. rdubmu's Avatar
    Wrong, different OS. What you call Gen 3 are the first generation of WP8.
    You are wrong sir, it is the 3rd generation of Windows Phones.
    11-06-2012 10:18 AM
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