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  1. andrelamont's Avatar
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    tweeted from @joebelfiore

    It’s official: The Nokia Lumia 920 & 820 are coming to AT&T

    You’re going to be able to get the Lumia 920 in-store in Red, Black and White, and through direct order (i.e., online) in Yellow and Cyan.
    Guess it doesn't hurt to have Jessica Alba sporting cyan! Hey Nokia its your branding color, so run with it!



    hmm what about matte gray? Is the cyan matte?
    Last edited by andrelamont; 10-04-2012 at 09:12 AM.
    10-04-2012 09:07 AM
  2. tk-093's Avatar
    Yes, but according to AT&T, it is exclusvie to them. If that's the case I hope they crash and burn. :) Here's hoping the ATIV comes to Verizon.
    10-04-2012 09:14 AM
  3. andrelamont's Avatar
    Yes, but according to AT&T, it is exclusvie to them. If that's the case I hope they crash and burn. :) Here's hoping the ATIV comes to Verizon.


    WTH? Nokia sales were extremely low for the 900 so their plan B is to keep doing what they been doing? Verizon has 94.2 million subscribers, t-mobile has 33.168 million subscribers and the best plan/idea is to say nope, we don't wanna sale our products to you


    There gotta be a quote somewhere where it says those who don't know their history are bound to repeat them SMH. I am an At&T subscriber but I know the best plan is to get these phone in as many hand and carriers as possible.

    Its hard to sale something that customers can't see or PURCHASE!
    10-04-2012 09:26 AM
  4. tk-093's Avatar
    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" - George Santayana
    Winterfang likes this.
    10-04-2012 09:36 AM
  5. inteller's Avatar
    i think it is a given that the ATIV S is coming to Verizon, perhaps as an exclusive. Verizon and Samsung have been in bed a long time cause of android....and **** the Ativ S might just sell more than the 920 because of their size.
    10-04-2012 09:38 AM
  6. Reflexx's Avatar


    WTH? Nokia sales were extremely low for the 900 so their plan B is to keep doing what they been doing? Verizon has 94.2 million subscribers, t-mobile has 33.168 million subscribers and the best plan/idea is to say nope, we don't wanna sale our products to you


    There gotta be a quote somewhere where it says those who don't know their history are bound to repeat them SMH. I am an At&T subscriber but I know the best plan is to get these phone in as many hand and carriers as possible.

    Its hard to sale something that customers can't see or PURCHASE!
    Nokia actually sees their US sales as encouraging. They liked what happened with AT&T promoting the Lumia 900. Remember, they're coming from the perspective of re-entering a market that they were largely non-existant in. Mindshare becomes even more important than actual units sold. (not that units sold aren't important) AT&T and T-Mobile created mindshare for the Lumia series through strong marketing campaigns.

    They were more disappointed with European sales.

    Even though in pure numbers, Europe did much more, Nokia felt that it should have been signifcantly higher.

    There also was a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes that we're not privy to. Negotiations that didn't go as well as they'd like.

    They saw that non-exclusivity made it difficult to get carriers to promote their products. And for carriers, it makes sense to spend your marketing dollars promoting products that you can't but at your competitor's shop.
    10-04-2012 09:40 AM
  7. theefman's Avatar
    They saw that non-exclusivity made it difficult to get carriers to promote their products. And for carriers, it makes sense to spend your marketing dollars promoting products that you can't but at your competitor's shop.
    And I also want to add, just because VZW has more subscribers what guarantee is there that more of those subscribers would get the 920 in the first place? Worst thing that could happen is that VZW gets it and do what they did with the Trophy, put in in the back of the store and tell people "WP is crap". At&t has shown with the 900 they are willing to promote it, now all that remains is to see if WP8 can match up to the hardware and make it truly competitive. Then they'll have no problem moving units.
    10-04-2012 09:55 AM
  8. sconrad308's Avatar
    From what what was said earlier was that there will be a Nokia 922 or something like that for the Verizon folks. It will be the 920 just with CDMA chips instead. I don't think it will be for the launch, but it might be early next year at least.
    10-04-2012 09:57 AM
  9. thed's Avatar
    And I also want to add, just because VZW has more subscribers what guarantee is there that more of those subscribers would get the 920 in the first place? Worst thing that could happen is that VZW gets it and do what they did with the Trophy, put in in the back of the store and tell people "WP is crap". At&t has shown with the 900 they are willing to promote it, now all that remains is to see if WP8 can match up to the hardware and make it truly competitive. Then they'll have no problem moving units.
    Who says Verizon won't promote it? AT&T promoted it because Nokia/MS paid them a ton of money. They didn't do it out of the goodness of their hearts. Verizon has shown with the 8X (and probably the ATIV) that they are willing to carry WP8, so that can't be the issue.

    Also, Verizon pushes all the updates out to the Trophy, unlike AT&T, who if I'm not mistaken still has not released the Tango update.
    10-04-2012 10:02 AM
  10. andrelamont's Avatar
    From what what was said earlier was that there will be a Nokia 922 or something like that for the Verizon folks. It will be the 920 just with CDMA chips instead. I don't think it will be for the launch, but it might be early next year at least.
    If they are going to go through the effort of redesigning the inside of the phone they might as well make a new product line for Verizon and give them (cough) exclusive right to this new 9X0 phone...problem solved.

    Sorry for showing emotions early as I just want NOKIA to do well with the sales...and as a side effect WP8 doing well.
    10-04-2012 10:04 AM
  11. crystal_planet's Avatar
    From what what was said earlier was that there will be a Nokia 922 or something like that for the Verizon folks. It will be the 920 just with CDMA chips instead. I don't think it will be for the launch, but it might be early next year at least.
    The bigger question is: why is anybody still using CDMA?
    10-04-2012 10:05 AM
  12. tk-093's Avatar
    The bigger question is: why is anybody still using CDMA?
    Seriously? Verizon's CDMA network is by far the best network in the United States. Nothing comes close to their 3G coverage. Obviously not as many options globally as GSM there are still plenty of CDMA countries out there.

    Countries Where Any Verizon Wireless Phone Will Work
    10-04-2012 10:17 AM
  13. Reflexx's Avatar
    Who says Verizon won't promote it? AT&T promoted it because Nokia/MS paid them a ton of money. They didn't do it out of the goodness of their hearts. Verizon has shown with the 8X (and probably the ATIV) that they are willing to carry WP8, so that can't be the issue.

    Also, Verizon pushes all the updates out to the Trophy, unlike AT&T, who if I'm not mistaken still has not released the Tango update.
    As you stated, "They didn't do it out of the goodness of their hearts."

    Carriers likely want something unique about the little known phone they are offering in order to pour their own marketing dollars into it. The biggest unique thing that can help in negotiating with a carrier is exclusivity. With exclusivity, a carrier may agree to pour quite a bit into increasing the mindshare of your product because they know that in order to get that product you have to go to that particular carrier.

    You don't really get the real benefits of being available on multiple carriers until AFTER you already have a significant mindshare.
    10-04-2012 10:20 AM
  14. Reflexx's Avatar
    Seriously? Verizon's CDMA network is by far the best network in the United States. Nothing comes close to their 3G coverage. Obviously not as many options globally as GSM there are still plenty of CDMA countries out there.

    Countries Where Any Verizon Wireless Phone Will Work
    It's not "the best" because it's CDMA. It's because they've built more infrastructure to support their network. But CDMA has the limitation of not being able to use voice and data simultaneously.

    LTE is a GSM based technology that will be replacing this over time.
    10-04-2012 10:22 AM
  15. power5's Avatar
    CDMA is used by many local carriers as well. More than I thought.

    The inside of the phone is not redesigned, its an antenna change. Soc has CDMA modem in it so just need the hardware.
    10-04-2012 10:24 AM
  16. Reflexx's Avatar
    CDMA is used by many local carriers as well. More than I thought.

    The inside of the phone is not redesigned, its an antenna change. Soc has CDMA modem in it so just need the hardware.
    Most local carriers use Sprint's spectrum. So they have to use CDMA.

    What many people don't know is that Sprint has far more spectrum that both Verizon and AT&T.
    10-04-2012 10:28 AM
  17. theefman's Avatar
    Who says Verizon won't promote it? AT&T promoted it because Nokia/MS paid them a ton of money. They didn't do it out of the goodness of their hearts. Verizon has shown with the 8X (and probably the ATIV) that they are willing to carry WP8, so that can't be the issue.

    Also, Verizon pushes all the updates out to the Trophy, unlike AT&T, who if I'm not mistaken still has not released the Tango update.
    I cant comment on who got paid since I was not part of that discussion. But claiming at&t only promoted the 900 because they were paid makes no differene because Verizon would be the same way. Either way, Verizon carrying a phone doesnt mean they will be behind it. Dont forget they claimed they wanted WP only if it had LTE yet they didnt carry the 900 or Titan II even though both had it. So being at&t exclusive really isnt surprising.
    10-04-2012 10:34 AM
  18. tk-093's Avatar
    It's not "the best" because it's CDMA. It's because they've built more infrastructure to support their network. But CDMA has the limitation of not being able to use voice and data simultaneously.

    LTE is a GSM based technology that will be replacing this over time.
    Simultaneous voice and data over 3G has been around since the Blunderbolt launched. My GS3 also does it. I don't think every phone has it, it is up to the device maker to include it. That feature plus their coverage makes CDMA the best. :) :) Well, until I finally get LTE hopefully by the end of the year.
    10-04-2012 10:51 AM
  19. Winterfang's Avatar
    Hahahaha AT&T exclusive? Oooh I better start making that embarrasing Sig so Big Supes, I might win the bet.


    But yeah, wasn't verizon looking to get all three big Windows Phones?
    10-04-2012 11:08 AM
  20. power5's Avatar
    Most local carriers use Sprint's spectrum. So they have to use CDMA.
    I know its not the local carriers own network, I was just saying there are many CDMA carriers.

    List of United States wireless communications service providers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Lots of Carriers use CDMA technology
    10-04-2012 12:15 PM
  21. VagrantWade's Avatar
    Hahahaha AT&T exclusive? Oooh I better start making that embarrasing Sig so Big Supes, I might win the bet.


    But yeah, wasn't verizon looking to get all three big Windows Phones?
    Nowadays "exclusive" actually means "timed exclusive". So they probably will.
    10-04-2012 12:19 PM
  22. Reflexx's Avatar
    Hahahaha AT&T exclusive? Oooh I better start making that embarrasing Sig so Big Supes, I might win the bet.


    But yeah, wasn't verizon looking to get all three big Windows Phones?

    You better hope it's not just a limited exclusivity period!

    Nokia outsold everyone else in WP with just being on AT&T and T-Mo. And that's with full exclusivity.
    10-04-2012 12:26 PM
  23. Winterfang's Avatar
    Didn't HTC said they sold the most Windows Phone out of every manufacturer? Why would they lie.
    10-04-2012 12:36 PM
  24. stmav's Avatar
    Nokia is getting it pretty good on their facebook page. They even posted the following reply:

    Nokia US Hi everyone and thanks for being so active on our page! North America is a key market for Nokia and were really excited by AT&Ts announcement. Right now were not talking about other possible announcements by other carriers. When we have new info to share, our fans here on Facebook will be among the first to know

    Now this isn't to say that Nokia will/won't be on other carriers. But I do think that they are finding out people aren't happy about exclusive. So if there is a chance they are on other carriers, I think they will say something before launch. Why take the risk of people walking when you know there will be options?
    10-04-2012 12:45 PM
  25. freestaterocker's Avatar
    Seriously? Verizon's CDMA network is by far the best network in the United States. Nothing comes close to their 3G coverage. Obviously not as many options globally as GSM there are still plenty of CDMA countries out there.

    Countries Where Any Verizon Wireless Phone Will Work
    Canada should be stricken from that list. Bell was the CDMA carrier, but they switched about a year ago to GSM. Same bands as ATT.
    10-04-2012 12:52 PM
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