1. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    Rather gutted by this story.

    No Chance: Plans For Microsoft Smartphone Are Nipped In The Bud

    Thing was, I was really stoked for a Surface phone. The concepts looked brilliant, but hearing this has left me rather bummed out. I am however gonna buy a Lumia 820 instead.
    palandri and BotanicalStig like this.
    10-06-2012 04:07 PM
  2. palandri's Avatar
    That's what I thought.
    10-06-2012 04:18 PM
  3. BotanicalStig's Avatar
    Would have loved to see a "VaporMg" phone that resembled my beloved ZuneHD. But I'll get over it. Sad day. Plastic it is.
    10-06-2012 05:40 PM
  4. Reflexx's Avatar
    That looks like an old story because it mentions the Surface tablets being unveiled "last week."
    10-06-2012 05:59 PM
  5. 12Danny123's Avatar
    No this story is old. There's still ad chance there will be a surface phone
    10-06-2012 06:05 PM
  6. BotanicalStig's Avatar
    "After the software giant unveiled the Surface tablets, last week, one sneaky insider speculated that the Redmond-based firm would turn its attentions to building a mobile handset."

    I thought the same thing first time I read over the article. But I'm pretty sure it's saying, "last week, one sneaky...." not, "... unveiled surface tablets last week,".

    I don't know, the article isn't dated.
    10-06-2012 06:11 PM
  7. jdevenberg's Avatar
    Article is dated June 26, so I don't really think this debunks it. Not to mention he never actually said they weren't making one, all he said was they had a strong ecosystem and good partners. All he did was dodge the question.
    10-06-2012 06:13 PM
  8. BotanicalStig's Avatar
    ^Woops, you're right. Just found the date myself.

    Maybe there is hope.
    10-06-2012 06:30 PM
  9. Lastnv's Avatar
    Who cares how old it is? He clearly said they don't plan on it and that they are satisfied with their partners.

    You guys are just grasping at thin air. Keep hoping for one anyway if you'd like.
    10-07-2012 01:05 PM
  10. sentimentGX4's Avatar
    Who cares how old it is? He clearly said they don't plan on it and that they are satisfied with their partners.

    You guys are just grasping at thin air. Keep hoping for one anyway if you'd like.
    1) The date matters because people can't see into the future. Plans can change.
    2) He never said that there wouldn't be a Surface Phone in the near future. No quotation marks around the sentence that says this. That means that this could very well just be the interpretation (or often even intentfully sensationalist twist) of the journalist. The only quote from the article just states Microsoft has great partners. he DOES NOT state there will not be a Surface Phone.

    That compounded with the fact that there are now multiple insider sources indicating that such a device exists and WPCentral has a practically perfect rumor record means there will definitely be a Surface Phone.
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    10-07-2012 01:54 PM
  11. astraith's Avatar
    I dont think MS is making a Surface phone themselves ... maybe a Nexus like path ... but not them actually branding and making the device.

    With that said, this prooves nothing. Go back in time and ask MS if they plan on making their own tablets. The answer would have been no.

    A company dodging a question or denying something doesn't always mean a denal. It just means they are't ready to talk about that product (example: Steve Jobs saying that the mobile phone is not a good mp3 player and they arent making an iPod Phone. We all know what happened there).
    10-07-2012 01:59 PM
  12. Myleslinklater's Avatar
    I still think there will be a Surface phone but I don't see the point in it. It's going to have the same experience as all the other WP devices if Microsoft sticks to their original WP plans. It'll just be Microsoft getting into the smartphone hardware business.

    A Nexus-like series makes even less sense. This isn't Android where we have undeleteable bloat and a different skin for every OEM, and Microsoft has already said there will be a way to get updates directly from Microsoft.

    Skipping out on the current crop of WP8 devices and waiting for some Nexus Surface phone will just hurt the WP8 ecosystem in the long run.
    10-07-2012 02:06 PM
  13. Reflexx's Avatar
    Forgive me if this is seen as spam. But I wrote my thoughts on the subject here.

    http://www.windowsphonefans.com/does...ense-4263.html

    Pretty much what I said earlier in the thread, just longer.
    10-07-2012 04:10 PM
  14. AngryNil's Avatar
    That means that this could very well just be the interpretation (or often even intentfully sensationalist twist) of the journalist. The only quote from the article just states Microsoft has great partners. he DOES NOT state there will not be a Surface Phone.
    This. This. This.
    10-08-2012 05:09 AM
  15. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    He never said that there wouldn't be a Surface Phone in the near future. No quotation marks around the sentence that says this. That means that this could very well just be the interpretation (or often even intentfully sensationalist twist) of the journalist. The only quote from the article just states Microsoft has great partners. he DOES NOT state there will not be a Surface Phone.

    That compounded with the fact that there are now multiple insider sources indicating that such a device exists and WPCentral has a practically perfect rumor record means there will definitely be a Surface Phone.
    I'm not arguing this either way, I just spotted it on the Phones4U website while trying to gather information for my interview today, and I thought "Hmm this might interest WPCentral readers". Hence I posted it.

    I mean all the conflicting rumours, who DO you believe?
    10-08-2012 06:10 AM
  16. Heron_Kusanagi's Avatar
    I believe that MS will do it if WP8's uptake doesn't hit the targets of those at Redmond. After all, if they so wish they can brand any phone that will come in the second round as the Surface phone.

    I do think the Mediatek rumors are for the dirt cheap phones that China devours, and it is likely that for WP to succeed in China, they have to fight the price war with the Android makers. That means wooing manufacturers to build a WP8 device using the cheapest SoC and still can turn out to be fast enough.

    After all, Nexus is a halo device aiming to showcase Android. If they want the Surface to do the same thing for WP, they can't use Mediatek. Unless they want to aim for the lowest common denominator.
    10-08-2012 06:21 AM
  17. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    There is never smoke without fire people. They are making one, somewhere deep in a secret lab, just like they produced the Surface.
    10-08-2012 06:24 AM
  18. Reflexx's Avatar
    There is no need for MS to produce a halo device since the OEMs are doing a decent job.

    MS may want to just fill a niche that OEMs are ignoring.
    10-08-2012 07:50 AM
  19. theefman's Avatar
    That's actually an old quote and there are too many reliable sources saying it's coming to be wrong. And may I also point you to the surface tablets? If they are willing to upset partners like dell and HP who make their second most important software profitable they won't think twice about throwing Nokia, HTC and anyone else under the bus.
    10-08-2012 08:26 AM
  20. power5's Avatar
    What is MS most important software if not windows for desktops/laptops?

    I hope they make one, or have one made. Just use the same chinese manufacturing companies that apple uses and the device will be pretty high quality. Well, just dont use Apples case manufacturer for this round.
    10-08-2012 11:08 AM
  21. VagrantWade's Avatar
    MS was never going to be releasing a phone anytime in the next year or so regardless. We are all just so bored we jump on every rumor we hear.
    10-08-2012 11:29 AM
  22. ryude's Avatar
    Kind of like how Hyundai dispelled rumors about an upcoming Turbo Veloster, only to release the Turbo Veloster 1 year later. There's no way you can design a turbo model in less than 1 year, so they had knowledge of it. But who would have bought the regular Veloster knowing the turbo would be out 1 year later?

    Marketing.
    10-08-2012 06:06 PM
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