1. brmiller1976's Avatar
    This looks like a nice handset, with that big bright screen and snappy dual-core processor!

    Samsung Ativ S hands-on - YouTube
    10-09-2012 03:22 AM
  2. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    This looks like a nice handset, with that big bright screen and snappy dual-core processor!

    Samsung Ativ S hands-on - YouTube

    and extremely cheap plastic body that will cost a fortune...
    10-09-2012 04:02 AM
  3. Coreldan's Avatar
    I like the kids corner thing and it has some other nice things to it like the biggest scree non WP8 device atm (for those who value it) and the biggest battery too I believe. Also the SD slot.

    Other than that it doesnt have much going for it and that cheap plastic was a total turn off (even if I'm getting a 920 regardless, but still).

    Hopefully MS/WP8 will take more use of the lockscreen "different swipes" for advanced users perhaps. Similarly, I'm not sure if they've used the left side of the start screen for anything, right side is for apps but would be great if we could customize something to the left, perhaps a quick swipe for settings or connectivity etc.
    10-09-2012 04:36 AM
  4. cckgz4's Avatar
    That reviewer was horrible. I swear 20 seconds went by and he didn't say anything
    10-09-2012 08:13 AM
  5. independentvolume's Avatar
    That cheap plastic is incredibly light and durable.
    10-09-2012 08:27 AM
  6. Winterfang's Avatar
    and extremely cheap plastic body that will cost a fortune...
    Polycarbonate?
    10-09-2012 08:30 AM
  7. Simon Tupper's Avatar
    Polycarbonate?
    Polycarbonate is kind of cheap too...
    10-09-2012 11:28 PM
  8. AngryNil's Avatar
    Polycarbonate is a bad identifier since it's so broad. It's silly to say it is definitively "premium" but it's also silly to say it's cheap. I'm sure the manufacture of a high grade polycarbonate shell can exceed that of a metal shell.
    10-10-2012 12:06 AM
  9. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    Polycarbonate?
    yet they look soooo different....I wonder why..
    10-10-2012 01:51 AM
  10. Reflexx's Avatar
    There are literally thousands of kinds of plastic.

    Saying "polycarbonate" really says nothing by itself. I could say "metal", but if the metal was a fraction of a millimeter thick that doesn't say muvh.

    If we took the plastic used for the back covers of their phones and made a baseball bat out of it, it would be a hollow child's toy. You'd use it to hit wiffle balls.

    If you made a bat out of the polycarbonate plastic that Nokia uses, you could use it to beat down an intruder. You could use it to break the other bat in half. Then people would complain that the bat is too heavy.
    Last edited by Winning Guy; 10-10-2012 at 02:28 AM.
    10-10-2012 02:21 AM
  11. brmiller1976's Avatar
    Yep, Samsung sure doesn't know how to make phones. That is why the Galaxy series sells more phones in three weeks than Nokia has sold Lumias in a year.

    A little perspective helps. If Galaxy S III was a horrible, cheap phone, it wouldn't be selling in the volume that it is. If Nokia's heavy brick-like phones were a superior design, they wouldn't be struggling to sell them against Samsung.

    Fortunately, Samsung will be making Windows Phones, so those of us who want thin, light, fast and non-exclusive high end can still get it.
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    10-10-2012 08:47 AM
  12. Reflexx's Avatar
    Yep, Samsung sure doesn't know how to make phones. That is why the Galaxy series sells more phones in three weeks than Nokia has sold Lumias in a year.



    A little perspective helps. If Galaxy S III was a horrible, cheap phone, it wouldn't be selling in the volume that it is. If Nokia's heavy brick-like phones were a superior design, they wouldn't be struggling to sell them against Samsung.



    Fortunately, Samsung will be making Windows Phones, so those of us who want thin, light, fast and non-exclusive high end can still get it.

    Who said Samsung doesn't know how to make phones?

    As for Nokia's design... in the WP realm, they're spanking all other OEMs. As WP grows, I expect Nokia to keep the dominant position.
    10-10-2012 09:13 AM
  13. brmiller1976's Avatar
    In the US, Nokia hasn't been able to take #1 away from HTC, and I predict HTC will comfortably maintain its lead. In fact, ATIV S will have a strong shot at outselling Lumia 920 in the US.
    10-10-2012 09:24 AM
  14. Winterfang's Avatar
    yet they look soooo different....I wonder why..
    Is still a cheap plastic. You can buy 3-5 dollars polycarbonate glasses. There's nothing premium about it, is still plastic.
    10-10-2012 09:51 AM
  15. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    Is still a cheap plastic. You can buy 3-5 dollars polycarbonate glasses. There's nothing premium about it, is still plastic.
    But the look my friend...the look, the feel. I don't care if polycarbonate is available for free..but the feel, and u have to admit this, is good.

    Sent from my RaZr on JB!
    10-10-2012 11:25 AM
  16. brmiller1976's Avatar
    I don't know if I agree that the feel is *that* good. Durable is nice, and it's totally subjective, but I am not a fan of heavy, bulky mobile devices! Give me thin-n-light phones, please!
    10-10-2012 12:50 PM
  17. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    I don't know if I agree that the feel is *that* good. Durable is nice, and it's totally subjective, but I am not a fan of heavy, bulky mobile devices! Give me thin-n-light phones, please!
    Hey Moto packed some decent specs in my RaZr making it thin AND Sexy...nowhere even close to cheap-toyish looking Sammy crap..

    Sent from my RaZr on JB!
    10-10-2012 01:20 PM
  18. brmiller1976's Avatar
    And Moto cannot sell enough phones to make a profit.
    10-10-2012 04:50 PM
  19. jmerrey's Avatar
    It's not cheap material. I agree the look isn't as "stylish" as the nokia and htc offerings. However, you can probably use the ativ s daily with little fear about scratches, etc. In other words, a large scratch on the back of your yellow 920 is going to stand out, but the same scratch on the back of the ativ s isn't. Not a plus for everyone, but still a consideration. Consider the iphone. People are gaga over the design of it, but 90% of them are covered by a big, plastic, multi-colored case.

    Something else, isn't the ativ s the only high spec wp8 device with a memory card slot? That is certainly a selling point.
    10-10-2012 04:57 PM
  20. power5's Avatar
    Okay, what do I need to do to view this video? Says its private.

    S3 does not feel that great to me material wise, but still a good device to use. Material is just not High end at all.
    10-10-2012 06:15 PM
  21. blehblehbleh's Avatar
    However, you can probably use the ativ s daily with little fear about scratches, etc. In other words, a large scratch on the back of your yellow 920 is going to stand out, but the same scratch on the back of the ativ s isn't.
    Just so you know, there's a reason why on the 900's debut and no doubt with the 920 Nokia said that the casing is colored all the way through. So it's gonna be the same.
    10-10-2012 08:24 PM
  22. independentvolume's Avatar
    The 900 actually scratches and wears pretty easily. The scratches also really stand out, some colors more than others. Either way, my carrier is Verizon so it's either the 8x or Ativ for me.
    10-10-2012 08:37 PM
  23. jmerrey's Avatar
    Just so you know, there's a reason why on the 900's debut and no doubt with the 920 Nokia said that the casing is colored all the way through. So it's gonna be the same.
    My point wasn't to question durability. A scratch/blemish is going to show up more on a 920 because of its simplistic design and beauty. A dent on a Ferrari is going to be noticed by everyone; on a Buick, not so much.

    I had a focus and focus s before i got my 900, and I never worried about either getting scratched because they had more of a utilitarian appearance. For some I think that's a selling point.
    10-10-2012 11:59 PM
  24. blehblehbleh's Avatar
    My point wasn't to question durability. A scratch/blemish is going to show up more on a 920 because of its simplistic design and beauty. A dent on a Ferrari is going to be noticed by everyone; on a Buick, not so much.

    I had a focus and focus s before i got my 900, and I never worried about either getting scratched because they had more of a utilitarian appearance. For some I think that's a selling point.
    I see, that makes sense. I wasn't talking about durability either.
    10-11-2012 12:01 AM
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