1. brmiller1976's Avatar
    This is going to further dent sales of the "unlocked" version in the USA and Canada... without "refarming," the 920 will only run on EDGE on T-Mobile, Videotron, and Wind Mobile.

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    10-13-2012 03:32 PM
  2. Winterfang's Avatar
    Mmm didn't the Unlocked N9 ran on 3G on both AT&T and T-mobile?
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    10-13-2012 04:47 PM
  3. WasteSomeTime's Avatar
    Wow that definitely kills some sales.

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    10-13-2012 05:45 PM
  4. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Mmm didn't the Unlocked N9 ran on 3G on both AT&T and T-mobile?
    You are correct.

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    10-13-2012 06:04 PM
  5. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    Will the 820, being the mid-range non-exclusive it is, be able to support 1700 though?
    10-13-2012 06:12 PM
  6. palandri's Avatar
    Will the 820, being the mid-range non-exclusive it is, be able to support 1700 though?
    We know the 810 will because that will be on T-Mobile.
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    10-13-2012 06:42 PM
  7. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    We know the 810 will because that will be on T-Mobile.
    Ok, so we know the 810 will support T-Mo bands, but will it support AT&T/International bands?
    10-13-2012 06:56 PM
  8. palandri's Avatar
    Ok, so we know the 810 will support T-Mo bands, but will it support AT&T/International bands?
    There are no official specs yet. I guess we just have to wait and see.
    10-13-2012 07:20 PM
  9. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    There are no official specs yet. I guess we just have to wait and see.
    It's just I want to be able to use UK 3/4G and then US 3G (4G if possible) when I visit, that's all. And I'm not going AT&T/Straight Talk. T-Mo is my ONLY option.
    10-13-2012 07:22 PM
  10. palandri's Avatar
    It's just I want to be able to use UK 3/4G and then US 3G (4G if possible) when I visit, that's all. And I'm not going AT&T/Straight Talk. T-Mo is my ONLY option.
    I must have missed your post about why you can't use AT&T/Straight Talk. You have a few options if you don't want Straight Talk. You can go to a Best Buy Store in the states and get a H20Wireless (AT&T MNVO) SIM card, or go to an AT&T store and get a Pay As You Go SIM card. Why does it have to be T-Mobile? :)
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    10-13-2012 07:41 PM
  11. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    I must have missed your post about why you can't use AT&T/Straight Talk. You have a few options if you don't want Straight Talk. You can go to a Best Buy Store in the states and get a H20Wireless (AT&T MNVO) SIM card, or go to an AT&T store and get a Pay As You Go SIM card. Why does it have to be T-Mobile? :)
    Only T-Mo offers unlimited data AFAIK. Straight Talk's unlimited doesn't count to me as it doesn't include streaming, and I love my Zune Music Pass. Plus I'll be Skyping a lot.
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    10-13-2012 07:56 PM
  12. palandri's Avatar
    Only T-Mo offers unlimited data AFAIK. Straight Talk's unlimited doesn't count to me as it doesn't include streaming, and I love my Zune Music Pass. Plus I'll be Skyping a lot.
    You're correct. Now i understand.
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    10-13-2012 07:59 PM
  13. TJWINS's Avatar
    Based on the specs on T-Mobile USA's website the Lumia 810 supports HSPA+ on 1700/2100 MHz while AT&T's HSPA+ network is on 850/1900 MHz so I don't think you will get 4G speeds. You might get 2G on AT&T's GSM bands but that won't do you any good streaming music.
    10-13-2012 08:27 PM
  14. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    Based on the specs on T-Mobile USA's website the Lumia 810 supports HSPA+ on 1700/2100 MHz while AT&T's HSPA+ network is on 850/1900 MHz so I don't think you will get 4G speeds. You might get 2G on AT&T's GSM bands but that won't do you any good streaming music.
    That also renders it a 2G brick this side of the Atlantic... As the UK is on AT&T bands.
    10-13-2012 08:35 PM
  15. TJWINS's Avatar
    That also renders it a 2G brick this side of the Atlantic... As the UK is on AT&T bands.
    Yes I agree. The AWS bands are becoming very popular in North America with several carriers planning LTE on 1700/2100MHz spectrum but Europe is a different story. I wish the world could just get along lol! Too many different spectum out there.
    10-13-2012 08:52 PM
  16. independentvolume's Avatar
    Only T-Mo offers unlimited data AFAIK. Straight Talk's unlimited doesn't count to me as it doesn't include streaming, and I love my Zune Music Pass. Plus I'll be Skyping a lot.
    What? Unlimited with no streaming? Streaming is the only reason anyone would go over a Gb in data. Straight talk is a terrible deal.
    10-13-2012 09:25 PM
  17. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    What? Unlimited with no streaming? Streaming is the only reason anyone would go over a Gb in data. Straight talk is a terrible deal.
    Tethering. That takes me over a GB. But that's different entirely.
    10-13-2012 09:35 PM
  18. palandri's Avatar
    Kind of strange the last two Nokia phones I bought had pentaband. My Nokia N8 and my wife's Nokia 808. The only reason i can think of as to why Nokia has gotten away from pentaband with WP's is U.S. Carriers demanding it.
    10-13-2012 09:54 PM
  19. TJWINS's Avatar
    Kind of strange the last two Nokia phones I bought had pentaband. My Nokia N8 and my wife's Nokia 808. The only reason i can think of as to why Nokia has gotten away from pentaband with WP's is U.S. Carriers demanding it.
    That is 100% correct. It's all business here in the US. Usually at the expense of the consumer.
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    10-13-2012 10:04 PM
  20. brmiller1976's Avatar
    I don't think pentaband radio changes are due to carrier demands to eliminate it (since only AT&T would benefit from that), but from cost and integration. Pentaband chipsets are more expensive to build and buy, and also cost more to integrate with the software stack.

    Nokia has decimated its software and middleware development teams and likely doesn't want to invest the resources in pentaband when there's an off-the-shelf non-pentaband solution from Qualcomm that works.
    10-14-2012 02:19 PM
  21. cckgz4's Avatar
    Starting to see a pattern...
    10-14-2012 10:39 PM
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    10-17-2012 11:09 AM
  23. palandri's Avatar
    I also saw that posted on another site.
    10-17-2012 11:19 AM
  24. metalchick719's Avatar
    Interesting... Makes you wonder why Nokia would claim the phone wouldn't be T-Mobile compatible.
    10-17-2012 12:55 PM
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