the dead Goldfinger/Mclaren

[anon(8141431)]

Re: nokia Goldfinger/Mclaren

If you did a few seconds of research you'll find that the render you posted was done by "DAVDesigner" over at DeviantArt and was originally his fan concept for the "Lumia 960 Catwalk".

It's not a 1030 concept render. The picture is nearly a year old and has been reposted hundreds of times for every single new Nokia codename there is.

I just saw this while i was browsing through the forums... And i saved the image because i found it to be awesome.. Even if this is not a 1030 render , wouldn't it be awesome if the mclaren looked like this?

 

[Beijendorf]

Re: nokia Goldfinger/Mclaren

I just saw this while i was browsing through the forums... And i saved the image because i found it to be awesome.. Even if this is not a 1030 render , wouldn't it be awesome if the mclaren looked like this?

It's quite neat, which is probably why people keep posting it saying it's a concept of an upcoming model. Reminds me of the actual Lumia 929/930.
I do miss the curved glass though, and it seems a bit too sharp on the corners. Other than that, I like it!

My favourite concept Nokia:

 

[Ushae]

Re: nokia Goldfinger/Mclaren

My biggest desires from this new phone is the weight and to a lesser extent the thickness. Since this will be the first 'proper' phone under the MS logo since the acquisition it needs to be directly competitive with the likes of the iPhone 6 and Galaxy S5.

I'm positive the specs will be great, as will the display. But the real question is what kind of software MS can build to compliment that and how well can they package the hardware to wow consumers. Windows Phone 8.1 for the first time is something is making users of other platforms turn heads and take notice. I hope MS continue to do this and leapfrog their competition in both hardware and software.

 

[anon(8141431)]

Re: nokia Goldfinger/Mclaren

My biggest desires from this new phone is the weight and to a lesser extent the thickness. Since this will be the first 'proper' phone under the MS logo since the acquisition it needs to be directly competitive with the likes of the iPhone 6 and Galaxy S5.

I'm positive the specs will be great, as will the display. But the real question is what kind of software MS can build to compliment that and how well can they package the hardware to wow consumers. Windows Phone 8.1 for the first time is something is making users of other platforms turn heads and take notice. I hope MS continue to do this and leapfrog their competition in both hardware and software.

Since this phone is being rumored as a 1020 successor, I wouldnt count on the weight and thickness being reduced.. But i would love to see a phone from Nokisoft that is not as heavy as a phablet.

And about the software...
Daniel Rubino stated in an article that the mclaren is going to feature Hover sensor even on the side of the phone.. And these are real hover sensors and not an extended camera feature like that of all the galaxy flagships..
These features include-

1. Waking up the Phone by Picking it up
2. Answering phone calls by putting the phone near your ear and rejecting them by putting them in your pockets
3. hovering over a live tile will show additional content by splitting the live tile

I think this is just the tip of the IceBerg

 

[shykhan16]

Re: nokia Goldfinger/Mclaren

Since this phone is being rumored as a 1020 successor, I wouldnt count on the weight and thickness being reduced.. But i would love to see a phone from Nokisoft that is not as heavy as a phablet.

And about the software...
Daniel Rubino stated in an article that the mclaren is going to feature Hover sensor even on the side of the phone.. And these are real hover sensors and not an extended camera feature like that of all the galaxy flagships..
These features include-

1. Waking up the Phone by Picking it up
2. Answering phone calls by putting the phone near your ear and rejecting them by putting them in your pockets
3. hovering over a live tile will show additional content by splitting the live tile

I think this is just the tip of the IceBerg

I'm also not sure about the phone being thinner as there's going to be most likely a 1020 Camera and will all those 3D features I wouldn't be surprised seeing it being similar to the 1020 itself


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[anon(8141431)]

Re: nokia Goldfinger/Mclaren

I'm also not sure about the phone being thinner as there's going to be most likely a 1020 Camera and will all those 3D features I wouldn't be surprised seeing it being similar to the 1020 itself


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that's what i said.

 

[Beijendorf]

Re: nokia Goldfinger/Mclaren

I'm also not sure about the phone being thinner as there's going to be most likely a 1020 Camera and will all those 3D features I wouldn't be surprised seeing it being similar to the 1020 itself

I wouldn't be so sure they'd go with the same 1020 camera module (or similar).

As Daniel Rubino revealed earlier this year, Nokia had an upcoming dual-lens smartphone incoming. Dual-lens smartphones (commonly) means computational photography with thinner camera modules with equal or better imaging quality to their thicker brethren.
If Microsoft chose to rework the Goldfinger to make it a hero device, they could reasonably be expected to put a computational imaging device in the McLaren. Especially considering the speculation of a Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 taking up space in the device, which Qualcomm have been working hard on enabling dual-lens capabilities on.

This is merely speculation on my part, but I wouldn't completely dismiss the possibility of a thinner device at this point.

 

[anon(8141431)]

Re: nokia Goldfinger/Mclaren

I wouldn't be so sure they'd go with the same 1020 camera module (or similar).

As Daniel Rubino revealed earlier this year, Nokia had an upcoming dual-lens smartphone incoming. Dual-lens smartphones (commonly) means computational photography with thinner camera modules with equal or better imaging quality to their thicker brethren.
If Microsoft chose to rework the Goldfinger to make it a hero device, they could reasonably be expected to put a computational imaging device in the McLaren. Especially considering the speculation of a Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 taking up space in the device, which Qualcomm have been working hard on enabling dual-lens capabilities on.

This is merely speculation on my part, but I wouldn't completely dismiss the possibility of a thinner device at this point.

Wow that is just awesome... also is there any difference between a flagship and a hero device?

 

[troylytle]

Re: nokia Goldfinger/Mclaren

Flagship would be a top of the line offering where a Hero would be an innovative device with trade-offs.

 

[Beijendorf]

Re: nokia Goldfinger/Mclaren

Wow that is just awesome... also is there any difference between a flagship and a hero device?

There doesn't seem to be any consensus over what the different definitions actually mean. But from what I understand;

Flagship: A device with top of the line specifications in a premium package. The best of what a manufacturer can push for the moment.

Hero: A device with over the top specifications, often including innovative/revolutionary technology intended to promote a manufacturer or ecosystem. Essentially, a device with the intent of making people switch away from their current brand loyalties just to get the device.

You can read some great comments about it in this thread:
http://forums.windowscentral.com/upcoming-rumored-devices/288070-flagship-vs-hero-device.html

 

[shykhan16]

Re: nokia Goldfinger/Mclaren

There doesn't seem to be any consensus over what the different definitions actually mean. But from what I understand;

Flagship: A device with top of the line specifications in a premium package. The best of what a manufacturer can push for the moment.

Hero: A device with over the top specifications, often including innovative/revolutionary technology intended to promote a manufacturer or ecosystem. Essentially, a device with the intent of making people switch away from their current brand loyalties just to get the device.

You can read some great comments about it in this thread:
http://forums.windowscentral.com/upcoming-rumored-devices/288070-flagship-vs-hero-device.html

Well when the McLaren comes out I might as well get it and sign up for tmobiles jump program and get the Hero device after 6months.

 

[Flagz]

Re: nokia Goldfinger/Mclaren

Well when the McLaren comes out I might as well get it and sign up for tmobiles jump program and get the Hero device after 6months.

The McLaren in this case would be a Hero Device. It'll have all the bells and whistles, gimmicks, over-the-top specs, and the advertising it needs. Trust me. The 930 is the current Flagship, and the McLaren will be the Hero Device to bring us into 2015 Flagships.

 

[lcw731]

Re: nokia Goldfinger

I'd rather the code name be "GoldenEye". Maybe the next generation pureview device can be "GoldenEye".

Not that the code names matter for retail.

I think pure view Is dead. Microsoft will switch to Canon.

 

[Melvinizer]

Re: nokia Goldfinger

I think pure view Is dead. Microsoft will switch to Canon.

Exactly!

 

[Asik15]

Re: nokia Goldfinger

I think pure view Is dead. Microsoft will switch to Canon.

yeah ... but many people loves the pure view tech ....... hope they wont blame MS/NK ... but canon is a good choice isn't it ????

 

[anon(8141431)]

Re: nokia Goldfinger

I think pure view Is dead. Microsoft will switch to Canon.

Pureview is mostly the software

 

[Beijendorf]

Re: nokia Goldfinger/Mclaren

We don't know what patents are involved in the cross-licensing agreement yet, so let's not jump to conclusions. PureView technology and Zeiss lenses may very well stay for all we know.

 

[anon(8141431)]

Re: nokia Goldfinger/Mclaren

McLaren said to be released on three carriers.... The Lumia 1525 is also rumoured to be released on 3 carriers.....

So...
Lumia 1525= McLaren ?

 

[Beijendorf]

Re: nokia Goldfinger/Mclaren

I posted this in the comment section of the WPC article regarding the new McLaren rumours published by Neowin. But I thought I may as well copy the comment here for further discussion.

So the McLaren is now rumoured to come with a 20 MP camera instead of a 41 MP+ camera.

Some of you may be panicking right now since the earlier rumours by Tom Warren at The Verge said "Evleaks first unveiled the existence of Nokia McLaren, and we understand the device will largely be seen as a Lumia 1020 successor with a similar hump in the rear casing for a powerful camera".

But the very same Tom Warren also subtly let us know that another 41 MP sensor was unlikely with his tweet "Imagine if the Lumia 1020 successor had less than a 41-megapixel camera ".

In other words, it's still very likely the 1020 successor. But Nokia/Microsoft may have moved away from the philosophy of more and smaller (=noisy) pixels and instead focused on something else.

So what does an imaging flagship with fewer pixels to oversample from actually mean? Well, we can all only speculate at this point, but here's a few ideas:

1) Lumia 1020 optics with twice as large pixels on the sensor.
In the spirit of the massive pixels in the HTC One 4 MP cameras, this would ensure a greater low-light performance, greatly reduced noise and a much faster shot-to-shot time.

2) Dual 20 MP sensors
Utilizing computational photography you could get a pixel-by-pixel cross-referenced supersampled image, 3D mapping and much more. If one of the sensors have a focal zoom you can also get zoom capabilities without needing moving parts or a thick lens (on top of the computational cross-reference improvements).

3) Canon liquid lens optics
The Canon-Microsoft cross-licensing agreement could mean implementation of Canon's liquid lens technology, which in turn would give much thinner cameras or the potential to use even larger sensors at the same thickness as currently.

4) Pelican Imaging light-field camera
Perhaps Microsoft chose to finally take the step to implement the Pelican Imaging plenoptic camera in the McLaren 'hero device'. This would explain a lower resolution count while also ensuring a much higher imaging quality and additional 3D imaging functions suitable for appearance in a "3D focused" flagship.

My main point is; don't worry about the megapixel count. The imaging quality and functions of the camera could be far better than anything you could have ever have hoped for in another iteration of the 41-megapixel module found in the Lumia 1020.

It's not all about megapixels.

 

[anon(8141431)]

Re: nokia Goldfinger/Mclaren

A new leak from neowin suggests that there are gonna be 2 devices with 3d touch.. McLaren and the upcoming 1525