Nickkk101
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wake up, dude
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I know its immature to laugh at meme's but damn, that was a well executed use of one.
wake up, dude
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Back before the McLaren got axed some reports suggested it was the 1030 and others that said the 1030 was a separate device. I've had a theory that the discrepancy is because they were in essence developing two different versions concurrently, one with the 3D touch stuff and one without, with the intention that the McLaren would be released if the new tech was ready, and if not they'd just release a more straight-up 1020 successor while continuing to work on the 3D touch for the future. What sort of led me to this theory was how Goldfinger was originally slated as the 8.1 flagship but then got shelved in favor of the 930. To me it seems they got caught off-guard and repurposed the custom-built-for-Verizon Icon at the last minute and so decided to have a real plan B in case the same thing happened with McLaren, which it did.
Based on that, I'd probably guess that the specs that leaked about McLaren are pretty much what we'll get minus the 3D touch. If I remember, that was SD805, 5.2 inch QHD screen, and updated 1020 camera. Design language consistent with the 830/930 is pretty much a given, and the 830 makes me think they're planning on the black circle camera casing to be the new distinguishing feature for pureview devices. That leaves us with something that pretty much looks like a [just slightly bigger] Icon/930 with a 1020 camera hump, and that's just fine with me. All they have to do is actually release it on Verizon (and not let them jerk us all around with updates)
Don't just be sarcastic/funny, show some facts to back it up. As far as I know there nothing power hungry here.
Oh wow, you pulled out a meme to back you up. Great job. smh
yet you don't get how much fail your post were?
No problem, just be a few years in advanced nuclear fission and particle physics class......
Well if you'd read the article I posted. You'd realize your just digging your hole deeper. But continue by all means.
Its a fail to small minded people yes.
Stop this bickering, its embarrassing. You have a right to reply but its going round in circles. Can we get back on topic please?
I happen to think Donny's point about the 55mpx and the accompanying most appropriate chip is valid. Anything less than 41mpx to the average consumer (accepting this is a niche device with a smaller reach) will be seen as a step back unless they can re-write the rules again, just as they did with the 1020.. personally, I think they will pull it off.
However, the arms race of megapixels introduces some further familiar challenges. The mainstream press seemed only to focus (pun intended) the validity of the massive numbers when the 1020 launched -the same old story again and again- but I am hopeful that MS will have learned from this perception issue and have at the very least, have a better way of explaining things to ''normals'' and press alike.. The question of how they improve on the 41mpx unit, without undermining their ground breaking tech in any way will be interesting to watch. That camera unit, needs to be nothing less than perfect in this flagship. I know it is 'my next' regardless.
there is a fine line between optimized and optimal, and between optimal and overkill
there is also a fine line between logical prediction and mere dreams
I don't expect you to understand that though... that'd be too much for you
14 MP addition to a 41 MP sensor is quite little -not even 50%-, so why bother?
anyway, Microsoft/Nokia still leads this megapixel race and I'm sure they're not going to extend it in near future
and imo, the number "41" is quite synonymous to Nokia at this moment, so...
there's always another way to improve the camera without adding the megapixel count
the sensor, OIS, aperture, and of course the chip is more important than that...
and talking about the chip, imo, using the double quad-core Snapdragon 810 (plus 3 GB of RAM) is way too much for a resource-efficient ecosystem like Windows Phone
You have to have a good ratio of sensor size to MP. What really makes the 1020 special is the large sensor, which I think is still the biggest of any smartphone. If they can fit it in, you would likely get a better overall image quality if you put a larger sensor with the same MP.That chip spec might be unreasonable yes, but the increase in MP is still perfectly valid I think- for perception at the very least. I'm not saying I agree with that route, but it is startlingly effective with consumers. So many comments are out there already about the iPhone 6 and its surprisingly 'modest' camera when compared to the 1520,930 and several Androids. Most consumers won't bother doing the maths: 55mp is a bigger number therefore it must be better right?
Now, you and I know bigger numbers are not really all there is to it with regards to smartphone cameras (and yes, your points about other elements in the imaging tech are more important) but in my opinion if they release anything less than 41mp in this 1030, then I'm sorry but the press will have the obituaries written about this phone before the press conference is even over.
there is a fine line between optimized and optimal, and between optimal and overkill
there is also a fine line between logical prediction and mere dreams
I don't expect you to understand that though... that'd be too much for you
14 MP addition to a 41 MP sensor is quite little -not even 50%-, so why bother?
anyway, Microsoft/Nokia still leads this megapixel race and I'm sure they're not going to extend it in near future
and imo, the number "41" is quite synonymous to Nokia at this moment, so...
there's always another way to improve the camera without adding the megapixel count
the sensor, OIS, aperture, and of course the chip is more important than that...
and talking about the chip, imo, using the double quad-core Snapdragon 810 (plus 3 GB of RAM) is way too much for a resource-efficient ecosystem like Windows Phone
Yes, MS should bring the massive 41MP into a compact form. Something similar to 930. We don't need anything more than 41MP, but we need a bigger sensor and fast capture to make burst mode possible
Similarly when the 1020 launched its specifications were already outdated, the screen was also less sharp and lower resolution compared to competitors however the camera was amazing.
The reason was WP8 didn't support 1080p display or SD800. Nothing to do with compromising. Had the pushed its release further, they could have included a 1080p display and SD800
I think that Microsoft should not release the successor to 1020 until the next major iteration of Windows Phone (aka Windows threshold). That can give them a good time frame.
And by the way, I don't see anything wrong with the specs mentioned above.
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For those saying that WP doesn't need that horsepower, it doesn't need in a technical sense, but specs sell, and if WP is advertised using the cell phone, it may get more view than it does now.
The whole point of the SD 810 and the 3 GB of ram was not for the WP OS, though over time it will eventually need more beefier specs to maintain its smoothness, but for the image processing, fast loading and shooting, and fast focusing etc. We have no idea what new technology will come out in the future so why build for today. No, you build for tomorrow. And again only the SD 810 support 55 MP camera by default, why would you mess around and come up with a proprietary chip again by using less capable processors. That's just gonna slow down updates by requiring more work on the MS's part. Just use a chip that perform the task out of the box. Don't reinvent the wheel.
For those saying that WP doesn't need that horsepower, it doesn't need in a technical sense, but specs sell, and if WP is advertised using the cell phone, it may get more view than it does now.
specs sell? no, not really...
Apple iPhone 5S uses a 1.4 GHz dual-core chip and still sells well
perhaps Microsoft should advertise Windows Phone's advantages (simplicity, stamina, etc.) instead of selling specs