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  1. nishant786's Avatar
    Whatever happened to this phone? (I mean the aluminium body that seems larger than the 1020)

    Nokia EOS to be Named Lumia 1020, 41 Megapixel Camera Confirmed | Concept Phones
    07-18-2014 11:26 PM
  2. Noahma's Avatar
    That may have been a mock up phone for the 1020. The EOS (code name Elvis) was released as the 1020.

    There are still 6 leaked code names floating around out there with very little to NO information about. Guessing by the code names, (purely a guess) I would think the one code named Superman would be a high end phone.
    07-18-2014 11:44 PM
  3. BobLobIaw's Avatar
    I'd like to see the reaction if Microsoft leaked new phone code names like Mirage, Illusion and Fantasy. "I'm waiting for the Mirage."
    07-19-2014 02:41 AM
  4. AndyM72's Avatar
    OMG, what a bunch of doom mongers we have on this forum!

    Lets look at the facts. It seems Mclaren has been canned because of the 3D Touch tech, which either hasn't worked out, or is taking up too much cash to develop. That tech is just one part of some mythical Mclaren phone. It is perfectly possible that the code names are for "target devices", and the basic hardware platform for several devices has been developed in parallel with the unique selling point tech (like a camera, or 3D Touch) that would go into particular devices.

    Look at the 810, 820, 822, 920, 925, and 1020. They are, at their core, the same phone.

    What I mean is, by cancelling Mclaren, they haven't cancelled all of the hardware that make up Mclaren, just the combination of tech that used 3D Touch (and that had apparently got to prototype hardware). So there is bound to be another design in the works, that will take the place of Mclaren as the high end Lumia for Q4 2014.
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    07-19-2014 02:57 AM
  5. dductran's Avatar
    OMG, what a bunch of doom mongers we have on this forum!

    Lets look at the facts. It seems Mclaren has been canned because of the 3D Touch tech, which either hasn't worked out, or is taking up too much cash to develop. That tech is just one part of some mythical Mclaren phone. It is perfectly possible that the code names are for "target devices", and the basic hardware platform for several devices has been developed in parallel with the unique selling point tech (like a camera, or 3D Touch) that would go into particular devices.

    Look at the 810, 820, 822, 920, 925, and 1020. They are, at their core, the same phone.

    What I mean is, by cancelling Mclaren, they haven't cancelled all of the hardware that make up Mclaren, just the combination of tech that used 3D Touch (and that had apparently got to prototype hardware). So there is bound to be another design in the works, that will take the place of Mclaren as the high end Lumia for Q4 2014.
    I understand that Microsoft have not cancelled all their hardware, however based on current leaks, rumors and news, it was believed (correct me if im wrong here) that the Mclaren would be the "hero" device with flagship specs to be released around september but then pushed back till november - december. Now personally, i don't mind not having 3D touch system. It would have been good to have it, ohkay without it.

    However, whats concerning me and i assume some other people here is that there might not be another "hero" device planned to be released during the november - december timeframe. Alot of people, including myself are using lumia 920, 925s or even lower speced devices. For me my lumia 920 still works perfectly and runs like new. That being said, I am looking to upgrade my phone during the same time frame that the rumored Mclaren was suppose to be released.

    I originally said I am willing to wait to see if there is more news on the current situation so i wont be making any rash decisions to switch to ios or to buy the current lineup of flagship devices. I'm just concearned that the next flagship device will be released too late and will be outdated compared to competition, especially at the rate of how fast technology advances nowadays.... FINGERS CROSSED.
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    07-19-2014 03:51 AM
  6. AndyM72's Avatar
    However, whats concerning me and i assume some other people here is that there might not be another "hero" device planned to be released during the november - december timeframe.
    What was hero device in 2012, I wonder? In 2013? I would say it was the 920 and then the 1020. So I would expect the next hero device to replace the 1020, with the latest advancement of their camera tech. Just in time for the end of life of the 1020.
    Last edited by AndyM72; 07-19-2014 at 12:01 PM.
    07-19-2014 06:12 AM
  7. btgusto's Avatar
    I think we'll still get Mclaren but just wont have the touchless feature enabled
    07-19-2014 09:05 AM
  8. Poirots Progeny's Avatar
    Yep, like the repurposed Verizon exclusive icon being turned into the 930. They have to have something to stay in the mind of punters otherwise they miss a chunk of the holiday market.
    07-19-2014 09:25 AM
  9. Poirots Progeny's Avatar
    Oh, the 2013 hero was the 1520 ;)
    07-19-2014 09:25 AM
  10. Bahamen's Avatar
    Id wait for the 1525, disappointing is an understatement tbh - i also have a 920 (930 is not a worthy uograde) and 1020 which is reaching end of life. I want a great WP device, something cutting edge using the latest technology.

    The frustration continues.....
    Why is the 930 not a worthy upgrade? People upgrade their iPhones or Galaxies all the time for nothing else other than a minor processor speed bump or screen density. The 930 has a better screen, battery, internals and even the camera is superior. Somehow, people have much higher expectation of MSFT/Nokia than they do Apple/Samsung. It's like if the next 1020 does not have 100MP then it's a failure, conveniently ignoring that the 41MP is already so far ahead of the competition even today.
    portalfocus likes this.
    07-19-2014 09:56 AM
  11. psudotechzealot's Avatar
    I hope Microsoft does not make the same mistakes this year, like releasing their flagship/Hero in Q4 instead of Q3 as they have within the past two years.
    07-19-2014 10:23 AM
  12. James8561's Avatar
    Why is the 930 not a worthy upgrade? People upgrade their iPhones or Galaxies all the time for nothing else other than a minor processor speed bump or screen density. The 930 has a better screen, battery, internals and even the camera is superior. Somehow, people have much higher expectation of MSFT/Nokia than they do Apple/Samsung. It's like if the next 1020 does not have 100MP then it's a failure, conveniently ignoring that the 41MP is already so far ahead of the competition even today.
    the 930 isn't a true upgrade of the 920 because it is missing features that the 920 has. it can't be upgrade if it's one step forward one step back.
    the main missing feature I'm talking about is Glance. very important feature.
    in addition, looking at the specs sheets, 930 is missing PureMotion HD+, has a downgraded mediocre front-facing camera, and most importantly the LTE bands needed to be used in the USA.
    07-19-2014 10:55 AM
  13. rQvsnaps's Avatar
    I'll be sticking with my 1020 until another crazy camera device shows up. I was hoping that would be mclaren but nah, 1020 is running good enough for me so no problem

    Yet.. :)
    Tom Snyder likes this.
    07-19-2014 11:04 AM
  14. Tahiti Bob's Avatar
    The lesson to get from this is to never hold off a purchase in the hope that a rumoured phone will make it to market. If you see something you like today, just get it and stop thinking about tomorrow. The 1520 is a great phone, I highly recommend it. If it's too big then the 930 should do. No need for gimmicks that you would only have used once in a blue moon, ask Galaxy owners what features they actually use on their phone and I bet it's not many.
    Sent from my Lumia 1520 using Tapatalk
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    07-19-2014 12:58 PM
  15. TechFreak1's Avatar
    Since McLaren has been cancelled, I have given hopes of upgrading my 920 this year. Just like Fiann said, some of us don't just want flagships but a Hero device which we can hold onto for 2 to 3 years. As spending 400 to 600 every year for recycled hardware (techwise) is not really feasible for some of us, there are people who prefer to purchase sim free as opposed to 24 month contracts and be at the mercy of a carrier in terms of updates.

    My 920 is going strong and hasn't let me down once (not including 8.1 DP into that counter lol).
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    07-19-2014 04:26 PM
  16. Bahamen's Avatar
    the 930 isn't a true upgrade of the 920 because it is missing features that the 920 has. it can't be upgrade if it's one step forward one step back.
    the main missing feature I'm talking about is Glance. very important feature.
    in addition, looking at the specs sheets, 930 is missing PureMotion HD+, has a downgraded mediocre front-facing camera, and most importantly the LTE bands needed to be used in the USA.
    Going by that logic, it would suffice if McLaren is replaced with a new flagship (maybe 935?) with said features above, plus Snapdragon 801/805?
    07-19-2014 08:49 PM
  17. hoovermac's Avatar
    We have two Lumia devices eligible for upgrade soon (L800 and an L920). I was kind of looking forward to the rumored McLaren for myself; would be nice for MS to release a real attention grabbing phone, but I am sure (hopeful??) there are going to be some great new devices out of that set of leaked code-names. We will sit tight and wait and see what comes out (hope to see some leaked specs soon though). In Canada, however, to get a 'flagship' or 'hero' WP device likely means you will have to shop eBay or buy an unlocked version from an online retailer.
    07-20-2014 07:10 AM
  18. Great deal's Avatar
    I hope Microsoft does not make the same mistakes this year, like releasing their flagship/Hero in Q4 instead of Q3 as they have within the past two years.
    The issue is that they are still going through the integration process, the hardware in the books is from Nokia, stuff that's probably a bit stale and in need of updates etc. That cant take place right now, MS have said that new devices will be out with the next version of windows, that is enough time for them to develop both hardware and software, test and release. I know its frustrating as i was looking forward to Mclaren and right now the flagships are half sunk due to the old technology inside. This delay was inevitable, nothing that anyone could have done.

    The reason some ppl are doom and gloom is that they are looking at the recent actions only without understanding the long term implication. The long term implications are actually great! A company taking control of both hardware AND OS, greater communication and transparency between teams, less middle management so they can move much faster, Windows platform integration.. great things are coming whether we stay or go.
    07-20-2014 07:41 AM
  19. StuBeck's Avatar
    I'm considering going android for a bit. I have a 920 and simply want a new phone. Not buying the 1020, even though I love the idea of a 41 MP camera...its on aging hardware and the prices are really high considering I can buy a Nexus 5 for a similar price. I'm also thinking of just using my 520 I have for backup and selling my 920 since its never going to be worth more than it is now.
    07-20-2014 08:36 AM
  20. jpal12's Avatar
    Either buy a lumia 930/Icon or wait for talkman in 2015.
    07-20-2014 12:09 PM
  21. Yonic Boom's Avatar
    Microsoft just needs a win of some kind soon.

    I'd like something to be excited about before 2015. I'm due for an upgrade in just a few months. I've liked my 925 but I've been pretty rough on it and would like to move to something that feels like a significant step forward. Even if it's just in build and battery life.
    07-20-2014 06:13 PM
  22. tgp's Avatar
    Going by that logic, it would suffice if McLaren is replaced with a new flagship (maybe 935?) with said features above, plus Snapdragon 801/805?
    I believe this will happen. But when? And what happens in the meantime? McLaren was expected to release in time for the holidays. I don't see its replacement arriving until sometime in 2015, which is a long time from now. We already know that the Galaxy Note 4 & iPhone 6 are coming in the next few months. We'll likely get the Galaxy S6 in March or April 2015. Every month's delay for McLaren's replacement will make it that much more difficult.
    07-20-2014 06:39 PM
  23. Bahamen's Avatar
    Everyone here seems to assume that if there was no leaked news of another flagship other than the McLaren, then it doesn't exist. That's just fallacious.

    Besides, a 3D phone would not qualify as a successor to the 1020. It might not even be a successor to the 9XX series. I am fully expecting a 1020 successor on the horizon even if it "only" has SD805 with the same camera module. Or, they could have something revolutionary going on with the camera and keeping their cards close to the chest, like they did with the 808.
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    07-20-2014 09:34 PM
  24. Stinomus's Avatar
    I'm kind of glad they killed it off, it was the poster child for 3D Touch and from everything I've seen of those implementations they have sucked. It's a good thing if Microsoft has said their implementation isn't really right or intuitive or non-gimmicky or whatever. They'll probably kill Mclaren - as it was the 3D Touch poster child - remove the 3D Touch element and call it something else. I don't see them dumping all the other features just because 3D Touch didn't work out.
    07-21-2014 12:39 AM
  25. Jcmg62's Avatar
    The 1520 is an awesome phone...without a doubt its the best smartphone I've ever used. Personally, I can't imagine a new flagship phone that's going to be much better than a top spec 1520. And keeping in mind that the 1520 is actually not even 9 months old yet, its still very much a flagship phone for MS
    07-21-2014 12:45 AM
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