08-10-2014 02:07 AM
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  1. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    The headline of the article is pretty nonsensical, IMO. Here is the logic that the article is giving me:

    1. HTC arguably makes the best Android device.
    2. HTC is doing a copy-paste of the hardware from (1.), putting Windows Phone on the "paste" end.
    3. HTC is making the best Windows Phone.

    The logic there is seriously flawed for a few reasons:

    1. Nokia/Microsoft puts more effort into good hardware than Samsung (whose phone bodies and cameras suck).
    2. HTC got the "Window Phone" flagship moniker with the 8X, as opposed to the 920, but they offered little software support and skipped the 2013 launch altogether.

    Basically, HTC half-asses its Windows Phone efforts, while Nokia/Microsoft works harder with Windows Phone hardware than Samsung does with its Android devices. So, deciding that the HTC hardware trumps Nokia hardware because it arguably trumps Samsung is just bad logic. At the end of the day, I don't trust HTC to put real work into this phone, making it just a semi-required copy-paste to say they're in the WP market. The metal of the body's likely to be the only selling point, while Microsoft will push legitimate features like a better camera, more storage, super-sensitive touch, and vastly-superior firmware/software support.
    08-02-2014 08:12 PM
  2. fatclue_98's Avatar
    The headline of the article is pretty nonsensical, IMO. Here is the logic that the article is giving me:

    1. HTC arguably makes the best Android device.
    2. HTC is doing a copy-paste of the hardware from (1.), putting Windows Phone on the "paste" end.
    3. HTC is making the best Windows Phone.

    The logic there is seriously flawed for a few reasons:

    1. Nokia/Microsoft puts more effort into good hardware than Samsung (whose phone bodies and cameras suck).
    2. HTC got the "Window Phone" flagship moniker with the 8X, as opposed to the 920, but they offered little software support and skipped the 2013 launch altogether.

    Basically, HTC half-asses its Windows Phone efforts, while Nokia/Microsoft works harder with Windows Phone hardware than Samsung does with its Android devices. So, deciding that the HTC hardware trumps Nokia hardware because it arguably trumps Samsung is just bad logic. At the end of the day, I don't trust HTC to put real work into this phone, making it just a semi-required copy-paste to say they're in the WP market. The metal of the body's likely to be the only selling point, while Microsoft will push legitimate features like a better camera, more storage, super-sensitive touch, and vastly-superior firmware/software support.
    First, it doesn't sound as if you've ever held a Samsung Ativ S Neo. I have a 920 and an Ativ and except for the low-light camera capability, the Samsung is the superior phone.

    Second, while I agree with your statement regarding HTC's post-purchase support, they do build a solid device that's second to none.

    Third, rebadged phones aren't necessarily half-assed efforts. The Ativ I mentioned is nearly identical to the GS3 but it's a much better device. Maybe Samsung saw the complaints about the GS3 and fixed them with the Ativ.
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    08-02-2014 08:36 PM
  3. Jazmac's Avatar
    Careful there my friend, you might start another one of those "phones are sexy" threads. BTW, I could have gone the rest of my life without reading that tight jeans comment.
    ROTFL. Yeah, I debated leaving that one out there. lol. Not at all my intent. Trust me.
    fatclue_98 likes this.
    08-02-2014 08:45 PM
  4. akthelonelyman's Avatar
    M8 is one of those phones that's worth getting for its hardware.
    Sent from my NOKIA 1520 using Tapatalk
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    08-02-2014 10:06 PM
  5. Rod Iron's Avatar
    The headline of the article is pretty nonsensical, IMO. Here is the logic that the article is giving me:

    1. HTC arguably makes the best Android device.
    2. HTC is doing a copy-paste of the hardware from (1.), putting Windows Phone on the "paste" end.
    3. HTC is making the best Windows Phone.

    The logic there is seriously flawed for a few reasons:

    1. Nokia/Microsoft puts more effort into good hardware than Samsung (whose phone bodies and cameras suck).
    2. HTC got the "Window Phone" flagship moniker with the 8X, as opposed to the 920, but they offered little software support and skipped the 2013 launch altogether.

    Basically, HTC half-asses its Windows Phone efforts, while Nokia/Microsoft works harder with Windows Phone hardware than Samsung does with its Android devices. So, deciding that the HTC hardware trumps Nokia hardware because it arguably trumps Samsung is just bad logic. At the end of the day, I don't trust HTC to put real work into this phone, making it just a semi-required copy-paste to say they're in the WP market. The metal of the body's likely to be the only selling point, while Microsoft will push legitimate features like a better camera, more storage, super-sensitive touch, and vastly-superior firmware/software support.
    There is no issue with reusing hemroid phone hardware, if it worked great then why not? Your logic is flawed. If the lumia's were so great then Windows Phone would be growing not stagnating!

    Rabid nokia fan boys will be the end of WP!
    fatclue_98 likes this.
    08-03-2014 12:40 AM
  6. Mark Guim's Avatar
    Also looking forward to this. My main concern would be the exclusive apps from Nokia that I'll be missing
    08-03-2014 09:14 AM
  7. Jazmac's Avatar
    Also looking forward to this. My main concern would be the exclusive apps from Nokia that I'll be missing
    Nokia does have a good suite of apps I would miss initially but I'll have the most important stuff and who knows, maybe HTC will mobilize its developers to produce apps for W8. Well, maybe that's a bit of a stretch but I'm optimistic.
    08-03-2014 09:51 AM
  8. Ankit Nawlakha's Avatar
    HTC Makes The best Android Phone in the World. Soon, I'll Make The Best Windows Phone.

    HTC M8 Windows Phone Leak - Business Insider

    I am so pumped about this I could explode. This will be my next Windows Phone if AT&T was smart to get it.
    Yeah! If HTC manages to release this worldwide then this phone can contribute quite nicely to the Windows Phone World!
    08-03-2014 10:12 AM
  9. Ankit Nawlakha's Avatar
    Nokia does have a good suite of apps I would miss initially but I'll have the most important stuff and who knows, maybe HTC will mobilize its developers to produce apps for W8. Well, maybe that's a bit of a stretch but I'm optimistic.
    HTC might need some help from Microsoft!
    08-03-2014 10:13 AM
  10. Jazmac's Avatar
    HTC might need some help from Microsoft!
    My thinking on that is that Microsoft might be more flexible in that exclusivity area where Nokia apps are concerned. HTC as a company wants to survive and not waste their considerable investment in this ecosystem building the W8. I hope Microsoft partners better with HTC and other device builders to make that happen. Again, its my hope.
    08-03-2014 10:17 AM
  11. realwarder's Avatar
    My thinking on that is that Microsoft might be more flexible in that exclusivity area where Nokia apps are concerned. HTC as a company wants to survive and not waste their considerable investment in this ecosystem building the W8. I hope Microsoft partners better with HTC and other device builders to make that happen. Again, its my hope.
    If all the Nokia apps become Microsoft ones, then they can then go on all phones :)
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    08-03-2014 12:57 PM
  12. tanzim31's Avatar
    Yes!
    08-03-2014 08:03 PM
  13. peacefulberry's Avatar
    Well I remember when ppl were ecstatic about the ativ s. Ppl that appreciated the design of the s3 wanted something different, and most ativ s owners were pretty happy with it! Its pretty safe to say that an m8 design with premium specs/hardware will be enjoyed by those who appreciate the design... Diversity is good.
    Jazmac likes this.
    08-03-2014 08:36 PM
  14. Ankit Nawlakha's Avatar
    My thinking on that is that Microsoft might be more flexible in that exclusivity area where Nokia apps are concerned. HTC as a company wants to survive and not waste their considerable investment in this ecosystem building the W8. I hope Microsoft partners better with HTC and other device builders to make that happen. Again, its my hope.
    I think the best way is to make available all those Nokia exclusive apps to other OEMs..! If that happens then HTC might concentrate on releasing some more innovative apps. (Not just for HTC but for everyone).. But it all depends on HTC.. Is HTC ready to do the hard work for Windows Phone?? If the answer is No.. Then this phone will soon be dead.. And if the answer is yes.. Microsoft gets benefited.. HTC gets benefited and we the users gets benefited!
    And I really hope the answer is YES!!
    08-03-2014 11:46 PM
  15. salmanahmad's Avatar
    The camera in the M8 is not stellar but then its running android. I hope the WP 8.1 software improves how the images look. But the look and feel of the M8 is the best. Speakers on the front all powered by Wp 8.1will make a real statement.
    The camera issues that plague the Android variant will probably be the same on the Windows Phone variant, unless they opt to use a 13 MP sensor.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
    08-04-2014 08:32 AM
  16. fatclue_98's Avatar
    The camera issues that plague the Android variant will probably be the same on the Windows Phone variant, unless they opt to use a 13 MP sensor.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
    Same sensor, different software. It's a totally different animal.


    Sent from my iPhone using WPCentral Forums
    08-04-2014 09:09 AM
  17. ginopiarulli's Avatar
    If they don't update my 8X I will be far less pumped.
    08-05-2014 05:27 AM
  18. Jazmac's Avatar
    The camera issues that plague the Android variant will probably be the same on the Windows Phone variant, unless they opt to use a 13 MP sensor.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
    My hope is that MS will take a hands on approach to what quality HTC puts in its hardware in order to better promote WP and itself. I suspect this happens on Apple's products and I hope this same methodology would be applied here. Its what I'm hoping for anyway.
    08-05-2014 10:15 PM
  19. hasasimo's Avatar
    HTC's offerings typically feel quite cheap to the touch for me compared to Nokia's. Not as flimsy as iPhones or Galaxies, but still less premium than I'd like. I really hope MS finds a way to preserve that legacy despite the world of cheaply made handsets that surround them.
    08-06-2014 02:55 AM
  20. J4rrod's Avatar
    I don't think the Lumia line is anything clunky but I'll leave that at your opinion and not worth debating. Its technology and it is its design, not a fashion statement. Never picked a phone based on the sneakers I wear or how tight you wear your jeans. You may have but its not what I do.
    I like the design of the 920, the ICON, the 1020 and the 1520. They are all practical designs and extremely solid. I also like the design of the HTC One M8 and I'm sure there will be disagreement there but again, not worth debating.
    He never said that. He simply quoted the article
    08-06-2014 10:57 AM
  21. Jazmac's Avatar
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    08-07-2014 08:07 AM
  22. Andrew del Valle's Avatar
    I disagree with his statement that the Nokia phones are plastic brick looking things. I think my 1520 is beautiful as was my 920.
    08-07-2014 08:12 AM
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    That's going to be awesome if they come in colors? Where were these photos leaked from?
    08-07-2014 08:54 AM
  24. Jazmac's Avatar
    That's going to be awesome if they come in colors? Where were these photos leaked from?
    Bing Image search. These are mostly shopped I believe, particularly the bottom shot. They do look stunning.
    08-07-2014 10:54 PM
  25. peacefulberry's Avatar
    Aren't those the 8s?
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    08-07-2014 11:24 PM
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