09-06-2014 04:59 AM
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  1. rohith513's Avatar
    Why every Lumia is built with at least one defect? Is this a market strategy?
    Why doesn't they build a perfect phone?
    Last edited by rohith513; 09-04-2014 at 08:37 AM.
    09-04-2014 07:19 AM
  2. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    1. What kind of defects are you referring to..?
    2. Which phone does not have defects..?
    09-04-2014 07:21 AM
  3. berty6294's Avatar
    I didn't know there was such thing as a perfect phone. Please give me a non-Windows Phone example of a perfect phone.
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    09-04-2014 07:21 AM
  4. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    I didn't know there was such thing as a perfect phone.
    Looks like somebody does. Or "does", not sure.
    09-04-2014 07:31 AM
  5. rohith513's Avatar
    For instance, just launched 830 with 1 MP front facing camera. That's ridiculous. At the least,2 MP could have made that a perfect mid range phone.
    09-04-2014 08:35 AM
  6. Jakez98's Avatar
    I wouldn't call that a "defect". It's more of a shortcoming instead.
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    09-04-2014 08:45 AM
  7. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    For instance, just launched 830 with 1 MP front facing camera. That's ridiculous. At the least,2 MP could have made that a perfect mid range phone.
    1. 1MP is low, need at least 2MP.
    2. 2MP is low, need at least 3MP.
    ...
    9999. front facing is crap, stahp MS.

    Even my 1520 doesn't have a 2MP FF camera.
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    09-04-2014 08:46 AM
  8. roni09riku's Avatar
    Anything and everything is bound to have at least one defect, no matter how much time and work is put into it. Even the great iPhone had lock button defect.
    09-04-2014 09:04 AM
  9. berty6294's Avatar
    Anything and everything is bound to have at least one defect, no matter how much time and work is put into it. Even the great iPhone had lock button defect.
    The iPhone IS a defect. lol

    Though I think the OP is meaning to say shortcoming instead of defect as jakez98 has said. There is no such thing as perfect, what one person likes another may not. There is ALWAYS a tradeoff no matter what anybody says or thinks, it always exists!
    xandros9 likes this.
    09-04-2014 09:08 AM
  10. taymur's Avatar
    I'll point out a phone that didn't had any shortcoming:

    Nokia N8, but it couldn't out sell the galaxy sII. which only had "thin" for an advantage.
    09-04-2014 09:14 AM
  11. BatteryLife's Avatar
    Are.

    You.

    High?

    Anyway, those aren't really called defects. Defects are like the NL930, a lot WPCentral forum members had reported several issues like screen miscalibration. You are highlighting on the lack of good internal parts (as of your opinion).

    People can't expect to have the best of too many worlds. You want good battery life? Or you want good screen? A qHD screen significantly requires more battery power to light up compared to a HD screen, not to mention more ram required. You wan big battery? Then you must sacrifice on thicker bezels / thicker phone / thinner casing. Like you mentioned, at least 2 MP front facing camera? I'm sure many will tell you that resolution does not convert to image quality. To divide a sensor of a same size to more divisions (more megapixels), the area of light per pixel will reduce (>micron size). This will cause the light capturing ability of the sensor to reduce. The way to solve this is by using a large aperture or use a larger sensor. But then, a larger sensor directly translate to a thicker phone, not to mention the longer focal length needed. If the light capturing ability is reduced, in low light situations there may be a huge presence of noise of camera blur (due to long exposures).

    See? We can't just get everything in one package. Sometimes, we have to compromise. Although there's all the talk about the "affordable flagship" stuff, its up to you to think that is that the "flagship" you want? (I don't really consider it a flagship though).

    Considering the price... It's still up to you to think whether it's a good buy or not.
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    09-04-2014 09:15 AM
  12. berty6294's Avatar
    I'll point out a phone that didn't had any shortcoming:

    Nokia N8, but it couldn't out sell the galaxy sII. which only had "thin" for an advantage.
    I'll tell you a shortcoming it had, it was GSM only :'(
    09-04-2014 09:19 AM
  13. rohith513's Avatar
    Yep. It's a shortcoming.i meant to say that they build every Lumia with a shortcoming.
    920-no SD card
    820,720-512mb RAM
    930-no glance screen,no SD card
    1520-should have been a 5" phone
    830-1 MP front facing camera
    730-no glance screen
    09-04-2014 10:21 AM
  14. BatteryLife's Avatar
    Yep. It's a shortcoming.i meant to say that they build every Lumia with a shortcoming.
    920-no SD card
    820,720-512mb RAM
    930-no glance screen,no SD card
    1520-should have been a 5" phone
    830-1 MP front facing camera
    730-no glance screen
    1520 - should have been 5" phone. Are you mad? That phone is 6 inch for a reason. There's a reason behind the presence of nl930...

    You might as well say that Lumia 520 lack glance, audio. Sd805 quad core, 41mp camera, 2 GB ram...
    09-04-2014 10:49 AM
  15. rohith513's Avatar
    Well, you can see that I'm comparing only high end and mid range. Kindly have a look.
    And I really like the Lumia 930(mini 1520), but glance screen was missing.
    09-04-2014 11:00 AM
  16. sklchan's Avatar
    It's not all Lumia have short coming but rather there's non of the current Lumia suit your appetite...
    09-04-2014 11:22 AM
  17. anon(5969054)'s Avatar
    Although the word defect doesn't really apply here, he has a good point. We need a Lumia killer phone that covers all features one could wish for, that are found spread out over different lumias.
    09-04-2014 11:26 AM
  18. sklchan's Avatar
    For me Lumia 1520 already carry the flag ship marking for Lumia family and then someone just keep complaining about its size... What else of practical hardware is lacking in Lumia 1520???
    09-04-2014 11:32 AM
  19. ssapre's Avatar
    Yep. It's a shortcoming.i meant to say that they build every Lumia with a shortcoming.
    920-no SD card
    820,720-512mb RAM
    930-no glance screen,no SD card
    1520-should have been a 5" phone
    830-1 MP front facing camera
    730-no glance screen
    830 is good with what all options it has...mostly perfect for normal use. If you think 1 MP FF cam is a shortcoming, then most of the other Non WP phones are crap in your thought since they use to have 1.2 MP FF cam.
    09-04-2014 12:53 PM
  20. anon5997296's Avatar
    I'll point out a phone that didn't had any shortcoming:

    Nokia N8, but it couldn't out sell the galaxy sII. which only had "thin" for an advantage.
    I think N8 had only Xenon flash and I think it couldn't be used as video light so there was no video light on N8. So that was a shortcoming, at least for me.
    09-04-2014 01:02 PM
  21. rohith513's Avatar
    Once again, I'm making clear that I'm expressing my views only on mid range and high end.i don't bother about the low end devices. Our prime features are spread over different Lumias. We need all together to make a prime, high end phone.
    09-04-2014 01:13 PM
  22. anon5997296's Avatar
    I think the most perfect phone at the launch was Lumia 920. Had everything any other phone could even imagine. Pureview camera and OIS, those impressive low light capabilities in photos and videos, 60 Hz screen for smoother scrolling, 3 HAAC mics for rich audio recording, wireless charging, super sensitive touch screen which can be used with nails as well as gloves. It even later got glance and double tap. I think, really a perfect phone and unchallenged king of it's time! Though there was no SD card slot, but I think that was for a reason. Lower class memory cards can really slow down the performance of playing music or videos, or recording videos directly to SD card. And I think 32 GB was enough at that time. Also, we can't forget the differentiating colors it came with. I think it showed such a beautiful and smart wave of phones to the smartphone world. That was game changing and something to really excite for. Nothing such happened with 930 or this 830.
    09-04-2014 01:14 PM
  23. Squachy's Avatar
    The 920 had a glaring shortcoming, it weighed nearly 200g and for the puny tech world was too damned heavy
    09-04-2014 01:41 PM
  24. Robert Warmerdam's Avatar
    Yep. It's a shortcoming.i meant to say that they build every Lumia with a shortcoming.
    920-no SD card
    820,720-512mb RAM
    930-no glance screen,no SD card
    1520-should have been a 5" phone
    830-1 MP front facing camera
    730-no glance screen
    The 820 has 1gb ram. The problem for some people was the battery life and maybe a not so great camera or a too low screen resolution.
    09-05-2014 04:30 AM
  25. Beijendorf's Avatar
    I actually agree somewhat with this sentiment.

    Nokia was always great at innovation, terrible at execution. I still appreciate the hardware they've launched over the years, but I was never convinced to buy any due to there always being one or two major shortcomings not found in the competitors phones.
    09-05-2014 04:00 PM
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