09-25-2014 05:10 PM
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  1. cba191's Avatar
    My 920 contract is almost up. I'm actually eligible for an upgrade. ATT is trying to get me into a 6+. I just think that Microsoft is insane to not have a new flagship available for when an old flagship contract ends.
    09-20-2014 03:54 AM
  2. dameon_03's Avatar
    My 920 contract is almost up. I'm actually eligible for an upgrade. ATT is trying to get me into a 6+. I just think that Microsoft is insane to not have a new flagship available for when an old flagship contract ends.
    I'm eligible as well on ATT with a 920. I'm going to try and be patient to see if something is in the pipeline for the holiday season. Hopefully there will be done devices or since rumors about threshold devices that will make me wait.
    09-20-2014 08:40 AM
  3. Guitarpik's Avatar
    How are you guys eligible already? I got a 920 from att at launch and I'm not eligible for an upgrade until like 11/8/14.

    Att wants an extra $250 to upgrade now.
    09-20-2014 12:47 PM
  4. dameon_03's Avatar
    How are you guys eligible already? I got a 920 from att at launch and I'm not eligible for an upgrade until like 11/8/14.

    Att wants an extra $250 to upgrade now.
    technically im not due to upgrade until nov 12th, but they give you the option to upgrade early through the ATT next plan which im not doing.
    09-20-2014 04:51 PM
  5. cba191's Avatar
    technically im not due to upgrade until nov 12th, but they give you the option to upgrade early through the ATT next plan which im not doing.
    yup. They want me to get the 6+, but iOS isn't the way I want to go.
    09-21-2014 10:53 PM
  6. Blacklac's Avatar
    I'd be shocked if we didn't see a new 9XX/1XXX high end model, for Christmas season.
    09-21-2014 11:04 PM
  7. dby2011's Avatar
    I'd be shocked if we didn't see a new 9XX/1XXX high end model, for Christmas season.
    Unfortunately you are probably going to be shocked. There is no indication that any new phones are coming other then the 730,735 and 830.
    09-21-2014 11:18 PM
  8. astondg's Avatar
    I thought someone from MS, had also announced that there would be no new flagships this year? Maybe it wasn't official.
    09-21-2014 11:21 PM
  9. Guitarpik's Avatar
    As much as I hate to say it, if there is no new high end windows phone by December, I'm probably going to get something else.

    Seriously Microsoft, what are you guys thinking?
    09-22-2014 06:59 PM
  10. cba191's Avatar
    As much as I hate to say it, if there is no new high end windows phone by December, I'm probably going to get something else.

    Seriously Microsoft, what are you guys thinking?
    I'm in the same boat. The battery on my 920 is shot. I get about an hour's worth of use and about 10hours of standby. I can't wait 6 months for a new phone.
    09-23-2014 12:58 AM
  11. SpartanJet's Avatar
    Microsoft lack of CURRENT (< 6 months old) high end phones caused me to order an iPhone 6 plus and a lost sale for WP. All I needed was even a rumor to wait for the 1525 but I really doubt we will see it this year (or it will come with the older Snapdragon 801 rather than 805 which would turn me off as well). They really needed a high end presence to combat the Note 4 and iPhone 6 plus. I have trouble understanding their strategy in the mobile market.

    Without a high end phone there is no interest generated for Windows Phone. Without any interest the app support will continue to lag behind its competitors. Without the app support people wont be interested in WP. Its a vicious circle.
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    09-23-2014 02:07 PM
  12. Svoboda's Avatar
    Sadly, I think my WP days are numbered. They have a month left to announce something. Not holding my breath.
    09-24-2014 01:12 AM
  13. Beijendorf's Avatar
    Microsoft lack of CURRENT (< 6 months old) high end phones caused me to order an iPhone 6 plus and a lost sale for WP. All I needed was even a rumor to wait for the 1525 but I really doubt we will see it this year (or it will come with the older Snapdragon 801 rather than 805 which would turn me off as well). They really needed a high end presence to combat the Note 4 and iPhone 6 plus. I have trouble understanding their strategy in the mobile market.

    Without a high end phone there is no interest generated for Windows Phone. Without any interest the app support will continue to lag behind its competitors. Without the app support people wont be interested in WP. Its a vicious circle.
    If it's newer specifications you want, I have no idea why you went for an iPhone 6 Plus. We're talking about a far slower processor than the Snapdragon 801, less RAM than the 1520, less storage than the 1520, same resolution as the 1520, bigger bezels, a lower-resolution camera with (preliminary results) worse performance than the 1520 and a smaller battery than the 1520. Current reports are also that it bends really easily in your pocket (due to the thin aluminium frame), unlike the 1520.

    It's thinner, and that's it. What you pay a lot of money for is for the logo on the back and a solid ecosystem. Don't fool yourself that you bought a phone with the latest specifications just because it says "2014" on the paper. It's even cheaper for Apple to build than all the other flagship phones, they just have a far larger profit margin.

    As for the other manufacturers, nothing so far has been really impressive. They have released some slight evolutionary increments from their previous generations, but nothing that would ever wow an audience. There have been no computational cameras, no 3D touch interface, no holographic projections, no foldable screens. The most impressive thing we've seen this year is arguably the Samsung Galaxy Note Edge, and even that isn't slated for release until 2015, when Microsoft is planning their flagships.

    So I for one can forgive Microsoft for holding their releases until they can actually bring us a good product rather than what we've seen from the other manufacturers.
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    09-24-2014 02:25 AM
  14. SpartanJet's Avatar
    If it's newer specifications you want, I have no idea why you went for an iPhone 6 Plus. We're talking about a far slower processor than the Snapdragon 801, less RAM than the 1520, less storage than the 1520, same resolution as the 1520, bigger bezels, a lower-resolution camera with (preliminary results) worse performance than the 1520 and a smaller battery than the 1520. Current reports are also that it bends really easily in your pocket (due to the thin aluminium frame), unlike the 1520.

    It's thinner, and that's it. What you pay a lot of money for is for the logo on the back and a solid ecosystem. Don't fool yourself that you bought a phone with the latest specifications just because it says "2014" on the paper. It's even cheaper for Apple to build than all the other flagship phones, they just have a far larger profit margin.

    As for the other manufacturers, nothing so far has been really impressive. They have released some slight evolutionary increments from their previous generations, but nothing that would ever wow an audience. There have been no computational cameras, no 3D touch interface, no holographic projections, no foldable screens. The most impressive thing we've seen this year is arguably the Samsung Galaxy Note Edge, and even that isn't slated for release until 2015, when Microsoft is planning their flagships.

    So I for one can forgive Microsoft for holding their releases until they can actually bring us a good product rather than what we've seen from the other manufacturers.
    I'm really not sure where you are seeing benchmarks showing the Snapdragon 800 or 801 is better than the A8 other than perhaps some synthetic benchmarks where a quad core would beat a dual core. I have not seen any direct benchmarks tests on the 1520 vs iPhone 6 + but at Anaddtech they have several ADroid Snapdragon 801 vs the iPhone 6 + comes out on top in everything but 3DMark physics which is due to the quad vs dual core here. I can't post a link but its on their front page under iPhone 6 preliminary results.

    I'd never touch an ADroid phone which is why I was really hoping for a new Windows phone. I couldn't go for the 1520 because my carrier does not support it (Tmo US) which means no Wifi calling which is critical for me. Not to mention the though of paying full price for a year old phone which is ancient in phone years was not appealing. Many apps that I use every day are not on Windows Phone which I was willing to overlook had a 1525 been announced. My cable company has a full cable on the go app for iOS only so now I can watch TV on the road. I enjoy playing blizzards hearthstone which I can play on my iPhone 6 + now while I commute. My bank has apps for iOS not for Windows Phone. I can probably name another 10 apps that I use often that aren't on Windows phone.

    In the end my choice for an iPhone 6 + was easy and logical. I do not use any of google """"free"""" services and I will never own another ADroid. That left me with only one choice for a new phone with my carriers support, the performance I wanted, Wifi calling, and the apps that I want. One day Microsoft will get its mobile act together, I was really hoping it would have been in the near future but I gave up waiting. I hope to hop on board next year if Microsoft releases a 5.5+ phone with CURRENT top of the line processors.
    09-24-2014 02:52 PM
  15. Yonic Boom's Avatar
    I'm trying to talk myself into a 1520.3 on T-Mobile but it's just so damn huge. I went to the MS store and handled one and it feels comically large.
    09-24-2014 04:20 PM
  16. Beijendorf's Avatar
    I'm really not sure where you are seeing benchmarks showing the Snapdragon 800 or 801 is better than the A8 other than perhaps some synthetic benchmarks where a quad core would beat a dual core. I have not seen any direct benchmarks tests on the 1520 vs iPhone 6 + but at Anaddtech they have several ADroid Snapdragon 801 vs the iPhone 6 + comes out on top in everything but 3DMark physics which is due to the quad vs dual core here. I can't post a link but its on their front page under iPhone 6 preliminary results.
    iPhone 6 A8 GPU benchmark suggests it's behind the curve - GSMArena.com news

    Results from Basemark X.

    If you're talking about the AnandTech test here, their battery test seem to completely contradict the battery life test by PhoneArena which places it far lower. The Apple chip has always scored high in browser tests, but they always fall into the general criticism-pit for why browser tests aren't very good for general performance testing. If you want "synthetic benchmarks", then those are it.

    And I'm not saying you can't like whatever you like. I'm just telling you not to fool yourself into thinking you've bought the iPhone because you wanted the best specifications on the market. If you did, you've fallen victim to the Apple marketing.
    09-24-2014 08:03 PM
  17. SpartanJet's Avatar

    And I'm not saying you can't like whatever you like. I'm just telling you not to fool yourself into thinking you've bought the iPhone because you wanted the best specifications on the market. If you did, you've fallen victim to the Apple marketing.
    Unfortunately Basemark X is the only benchmark that is multi platform available on Windows Phone or we could see other tests in action many benchmarks can favor different platforms. As you know the Basemark test will favor quad cores and many applications do not take advantage of all 4 cores making it very synthetic.

    I was just re-reading what I had typed out I don't believe I ever stated that Apple had the best performance at all! I did state the 1520 is too old, is not supported by my carrier, and has no WiFi calling, and lacks the apps I need. Why would I pay 600 or so for the old 1520 when I can get a brand new phone with good performance and compatibility with my carrier and WiFi calling along with all the apps I need?

    Its a shame Microsoft is dragging their feet I would have jumped on a 1525 without a doubt as long as it had the Snapdragon 805 apps or not.
    09-24-2014 10:44 PM
  18. Paul Verizzo's Avatar
    And then there's TMO. Many of us love the carrier mostly for financial reasons. But their support of WP is abysmal. The once upon a time flagship 810 got kicked to the curb pronto, not even getting WFC that the ugly sister 521 did. At this time the 925 is STILL waiting for an official 8.1 and Cyan update, three months after ATT 925 users got theirs.

    Yes, the 635 is a nice low end phone. But I want more than what it offers.
    09-24-2014 11:07 PM
  19. SpartanJet's Avatar
    ^ This

    Honestly though if I were to switch to Verizon or ATT it came out to something like $32 more a month for a sort of equivalent plan. That is basically my iphone payment ($31x24) extra for nothing. No phone is worth that even though I really want a Windows phone I'm not going to pay more for equal service.
    09-24-2014 11:28 PM
  20. dallasb86's Avatar
    So still no updates or rumors on any new flagship models? I picked up an iphone 6 but I would rather not stick with it, I want to switch to WP. I can use an old 521 I have on a prepaid plan for a while but I don't want to have to wait 6+ months for a flagship WP model to come out.
    09-25-2014 05:10 PM
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