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  1. dby2011's Avatar
    So after today's announcements here is what it will look like in the USA in the fall and holiday months. I am assuming the 730 and 830 will be available with USA carries:

    Lumia 530
    Lumia 635
    Lumia 735
    Lumia 830
    Lumia 929/Icon
    Samsung ATIV SE
    HTC M8

    So is this enough? Hardware wise the flagships are still the Icon, Samsung ATIV SE and HTC M8 which technically use old hardware. Also, the Icon is still only available with one carrier. I just don't see this lineup attacting more users in the US and from what I have seen on pricing they are not pricing them to take sales away from anyone. It also doesn't help when 2 out of the 3 major US carriers have not updated their current phones to Windows 8.1 yet too. I just don't have a confident feeling anymore about Windows Phone 8.1 here in the US.
    09-04-2014 09:02 AM
  2. jfa1's Avatar
    You've left out the 1520. There's been chatter about a newer 1520 variant the 1525 for Tmo and ATT. It hasn't ben heard of officially but it could be coming. The specs for the 830 seem pretty good and the video here on WPC looked great IMHO. I think that the picture is not as bleak as you are painting.
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    09-04-2014 11:26 AM
  3. ibbyj's Avatar
    You can get the 1320 on cricket too.

    Posted via the Windows Phone Central App for Android
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    09-04-2014 12:32 PM
  4. jgbstetson's Avatar
    US carriers have been dead silent on availability. My guess is that they are delaying the launch here to give HTC a chance to sell the one. Issue with that is it's currently only available on one carrier and there's an unknown ETA on other carriers. So how long after wide availability of the one will the Lumias be available? This is really pushing up against holiday time with no time to raise awareness through marketing. I understand the need to bring other OEMs into the fold, but I think this is not good for Windows Phone overall in the US.
    09-04-2014 12:43 PM
  5. dby2011's Avatar
    Sorry,I did forget about the phablets. I totally agree with you-no US carriers have announced a thing. Verizon is dragging their behinds in supporting the Icon. It still doesn't look good. The new phones are just not compelling enough.
    09-04-2014 01:32 PM
  6. rdubmu's Avatar
    The 830, and 735 and 730 are not coming to the US.

    So we have the 530, 630, and the Icon, 1520, HTC M8 for windows, and the ATIV SE.

    The 1020 is a 2 year old phone... nothing new.
    09-04-2014 01:38 PM
  7. dby2011's Avatar
    The 830, and 735 and 730 are not coming to the US.

    So we have the 530, 630, and the Icon, 1520, HTC M8 for windows, and the ATIV SE.

    The 1020 is a 2 year old phone... nothing new.
    Bullpucky, the 830 and 735 are listed on Nokia's US-EN website. If you go to Nokia's global website there is a link that is for the United States for the 735 and 830. What a bogus rumor. I assume the dual sim 730 isn't coming to the US so maybe that is where all of this started.
    Beijendorf likes this.
    09-04-2014 01:44 PM
  8. kingp's Avatar
    Not that he's always right, but Paul Thurrott said, on Twitter, that the 730/830 devices are specifically NOT coming to the USA. These are Europe only.

    https://twitter.com/thurrott/status/507504890407813120
    09-04-2014 02:57 PM
  9. gfunk84's Avatar
    The 1020 is a 2 year old phone... nothing new.
    It's barely a year old.
    09-04-2014 03:06 PM
  10. Long Syntax's Avatar
    kingp, I was glancing at Paul's twitter feed today and saw a comment that might be relevant. He said it would be suicide to announce any flagship phones just before the iPhone 6 announcement. I'm hoping that Paul knows something and that there may indeed be something held back - at least I'm crossing my fingers.
    09-04-2014 03:07 PM
  11. csiguy1's Avatar
    I agree that there is going to be a hole for the rest of the year. The HTC should be spread out to other carriers and tons of advertising done. I think
    MS needs one more flagship before the Holidays to round out the litter. They say that they are going after the mid and lower market but to have that premier signature, they need to keep at least one flagship in the publics face all of the time i.e. Sammy and iPhone. imho
    09-04-2014 03:48 PM
  12. Tony DeLuce's Avatar
    Notice they were comparing the 830 to the "flag ships" of Apple and Samsung and these were not the iPhone 6 or Note 4. I bet they are waiting to trump both of them with the 1530 once the buzz dies down a bit on them...
    Surmisation likes this.
    09-05-2014 12:04 AM
  13. baseballbert's Avatar
    Saw the green 1520 today. Great color, loved the phone.

    Just not sure WP 8.1 is compelling enough for people to switch. I definitely feel the core OS is superior in most ways to Android and iOS.

    Hate to go back to it, but I think it really does come down to the app gap. For instance, the MLS and MiLB apps aren't on WP yet. For sports fans that's a big blow.

    Again, love the OS, would love to see it do well. Just not too sure how it will do against a 4.7 and 5.5 inch screen iPhone or whatever high end thing Samsung puts out next.
    09-05-2014 12:46 AM
  14. SlickShoesRUCrazy's Avatar
    Nope. Going to be a rough holiday season. Don't have a true high end phone with flashy words like qhd.
    09-05-2014 01:06 AM
  15. Tony DeLuce's Avatar
    I would gladly settle for a 1520 on Verizon before Christmas...
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    09-05-2014 01:20 AM
  16. phlamethrowre's Avatar
    Nokia and MSFT are clueless. I'm going to keep my 1520 but I will be buying a Note 4 when it is available. That is cutting edge hardware.
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    09-06-2014 08:20 AM
  17. anguilla1980's Avatar
    There must be something coming to replace the 1520 on AT&T because they don't even list the 32GB variant on their site, only the 16GB.
    09-08-2014 10:27 AM
  18. Svoboda's Avatar
    There must be something coming to replace the 1520 on AT&T because they don't even list the 32GB variant on their site, only the 16GB.
    If there is, the retail stores are being kept in the dark. I've been in the three by me weekly for two months now and they have no idea. All are down to 3 phones available too.
    09-09-2014 11:09 PM
  19. Svoboda's Avatar
    It's barely a year old.
    July 2013.
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    09-09-2014 11:11 PM
  20. snowwake8's Avatar
    Guys, look historically. Microsoft announces phones like 2 weeks before they release. I have that worried tick as well that we won't have a flagship device but I am keeping faith. It would be utterly stupid to announce a flagship phone around the release of Iphone 6. I think we will hear something beginning of October in regards to a watch and new flagship phone. And they will release probe beginning of November. I'm hoping and praying this is the case cause my contract is up and I desperately want out of my 928 and nothing on the market now is worth a 2 year contract on. Well, maybe the 1520 but I'm on Verizon. So Microsoft better be doing something!
    09-10-2014 01:59 AM
  21. Svoboda's Avatar
    I completely disagree. As has been mentioned here over and over, the first wave of WP8 users on AT&T are coming out of contract in November. Now that it is the 2nd week in September and no flagship announcements, not even solid rumors, you've basically laid the foundation for folks to jump to an iPhone 6 or flagship Andriod device because that is all they've seen advertised for months now and there is mass availability.

    I was in the AT&T store on Sunday and they are down to three models on the shelves -- the 635, the 1020 and the 1520. Even if you add in the rumored 830, that leaves WP users very few options when renewing, especially if you're not interested in the larger form factor. It's not Apple that Microsoft/Nokia should be worried about -- this is all self inflicted.
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    09-10-2014 08:39 AM
  22. jmshub's Avatar
    Guys, look historically. Microsoft announces phones like 2 weeks before they release. I have that worried tick as well that we won't have a flagship device but I am keeping faith. It would be utterly stupid to announce a flagship phone around the release of Iphone 6. I think we will hear something beginning of October in regards to a watch and new flagship phone. And they will release probe beginning of November. I'm hoping and praying this is the case cause my contract is up and I desperately want out of my 928 and nothing on the market now is worth a 2 year contract on. Well, maybe the 1520 but I'm on Verizon. So Microsoft better be doing something!
    I will be a little angry if all of this delay is over a stupid smartwatch. 920 customers are going off contract very soon. I like my 920, but I was planning on handing it down to my mother-in-law when I get a new phone, but Nokia and at&t aren't announcing anything.
    09-10-2014 10:49 AM
  23. snowwake8's Avatar
    I'll be very surprised and disappointed if a 10xx and/or 15xx model phone isn't released.
    09-10-2014 11:57 AM
  24. Beijendorf's Avatar
    It's barely a year old.
    I think Rdubmu meant the internals are two years old. In technological terms, that's something you may discover during an archaeological excavation next to a Tyrannosaurus Rex bone and the first fire ever invented by mankind.

    I'll be very surprised and disappointed if a 10xx and/or 15xx model phone isn't released.
    Microsoft has been quoted as saying they're not going to release devices just for the sake of releasing devices. They'll only release devices when said devices actually bring something new to the market. That essentially means we'll probably have to wait for a bit, but once they do release something we are unlikely to be disappointed.
    Aggemam likes this.
    09-10-2014 03:50 PM
  25. gbhhbg's Avatar
    You're either in the game or you're not. If MS does not come out quick with some high end phones they will forever fade into obscurity (almost there now). They lack sufficient ranges of current phones and totally lack marketing. I'm only going to wait so long before I give up hope and go to the iphone 6. 1520, way too big for me. Icon- don't want Verizon. Plus, the Icon is heavier and thicker than the iphone 6. All of the Windows phones are bricks except the HTC One M8. If only it had a better camera I'd own it now- might even go with Verizon.
    Last edited by gbhhbg; 09-17-2014 at 03:35 PM.
    09-17-2014 03:22 PM
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