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  1. TechAbstract's Avatar
    Entry level Microsoft Lumia 435 visits the FCC; check out a leaked photo and rumored specs


    4-inch, 800480 resolution display

    118.1 x 64.7 mm

    Snapdragon 200 processor

    5 MP rear-camera
    12-13-2014 10:30 PM
  2. Marquis de Faux's Avatar
    Looks quite good.
    People complain about, "oh look, another budget device" but this is quite necessary.

    The Lumia 535 is quite a good budget device, however it is not the, "bottom of the line", "dirt cheap" device like the 530. Thus, there is a new gap that has emerged for such a device.
    The 4xx series will become the new bottom of the line entry level phone.

    We all want new high end phones, but this phone is necessary to fill a gap that has emerged as the 5xx series got more high end.
    luisfarelo and RumoredNow like this.
    12-13-2014 10:43 PM
  3. LumiaWorld's Avatar
    Now the whole numerical scheme just got a lot more confusing
    irtiza_fayaz likes this.
    12-13-2014 10:49 PM
  4. someone2639's Avatar
    Looks quite good.
    People complain about, "oh look, another budget device" but this is quite necessary.

    The Lumia 535 is quite a good budget device, however it is not the, "bottom of the line", "dirt cheap" device like the 530. Thus, there is a new gap that has emerged for such a device.
    The 4xx series will become the new bottom of the line entry level phone.

    We all want new high end phones, but this phone is necessary to fill a gap that has emerged as the 5xx series got more high end.
    Screw the rear cam! Only 5 mp ffc!
    12-13-2014 10:50 PM
  5. irtiza_fayaz's Avatar
    Now the whole numerical scheme just got a lot more confusing
    No it didn't, and it never was, unless you're extremely dumb, which you aren't.
    12-13-2014 11:07 PM
  6. LumiaWorld's Avatar
    No it didn't, and it never was, unless you're extremely dumb, which you aren't.
    Well it wasn't, but now it is. This 435 is just like a 530 on a different body... Don't know why would it be on the 4xx series...
    12-14-2014 08:16 AM
  7. xandros9's Avatar
    Honestly I think the 530 pretty much hit rock bottom.
    Sure build quality can be cut, but i think its scraping the bottom of the barrel of decency as it is.
    Last edited by xandros9; 12-14-2014 at 04:20 PM.
    12-14-2014 01:13 PM
  8. psoham777's Avatar
    Well MS should price this phone correctly, if there's less price gap between this(435) & 535 then 435 would be a failure, everyone would go for 535.
    12-14-2014 01:41 PM
  9. TechAbstract's Avatar
    12-14-2014 01:42 PM
  10. gMaesterUK's Avatar
    Hopefully this will sit in the basic range of phones that'll replace the old basic nokia 'dumb'phones. If is, it should sit in the sub-20 range.

    G.
    12-14-2014 02:34 PM
  11. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Yay! Another low end device to prove how well WP works on low end hardware. Let's celebrate!
    aximtreo and MikeSo like this.
    12-14-2014 03:32 PM
  12. Zulfigar's Avatar
    Yay! Another low end device to prove how well WP works on low end hardware. Let's celebrate!
    Yeah! More phones to choose from! :D
    12-14-2014 03:36 PM
  13. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Yeah! More phones to choose from! :D
    Yes, now we have an official throw away device. How sweet! More tech garbage. Woot!
    aximtreo, RumoredNow and MikeSo like this.
    12-14-2014 03:40 PM
  14. oviedofreak82's Avatar
    Microsoft can't anticipate making any money on this phone. I thought the 530 was bare bones, this thing has got to be close to $20 USD. I realized the article said it would go for $57 in Indonesia. My wife's 521 is better featured than the 530. I realize that Microsoft is trying to reach consumers moving up from dumb phones, but with the number of ads from iPhone and Android, it would make anyone on a budget or not want to try a high end phone, even used. IPhone 4s' go for $100 used on average and even budget conscious consumers can afford that and upgrade to iOS 7 to try it out. But that's just my opinion and opinions are like feet; everyone has them and they all stink.
    12-14-2014 04:13 PM
  15. ajb1965's Avatar
    I understand that Microsoft is trying to capitalize their gains in the low end market as they should. WP is a great OS that doesn't need heavy hardware to provide a good user experience. However, it is frustrating to watch these low and mid range phones come when there hasn't been a high end MS phone revealed or even credibly leaked in quite a while.
    MikeSo likes this.
    12-14-2014 04:27 PM
  16. Xavier2508's Avatar
    Are we sure this is real? A lumia 4xx doesn't really make much sense, since you literally can't go below the 530's specs except on build quality...
    And if it's true, where the hell is the 430 then?
    The only thing that might make sense is MS rearanging the line-up by putting a reskinned 530 one level below the more capapble and bigger 535.
    12-14-2014 05:24 PM
  17. AstroPop's Avatar
    I realize that Microsoft is trying to reach consumers moving up from dumb phones, but with the number of ads from iPhone and Android, it would make anyone on a budget or not want to try a high end phone, even used. IPhone 4s' go for $100 used on averagek.
    iPhone 4S and high end in the same sentence? Lay off the marketing, 4S is a 3 year old used scratchy phone with 512mb ram, 3.5 inch 640x960 screen and about 2 hours of battery life and runs iOS7 like tar. It's a piece of garbage. $100 for that used smelly thing is robbery. Glad to see the Apple marketing works, maybe they'll sell you high end rocks for just $100 next.
    12-14-2014 05:36 PM
  18. AstroPop's Avatar
    This is a great move you guys are clueless if you don't see that. Eventually dropping the price to around $30-$39 to try and get some of those 200 million people who buy regular Nokia phones every year into the WP world. If they can get just every 25th customer to buy this instead of their dumbphone they'll have 8 million new Lumia users ready to upgrade to higher end models next year.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    12-14-2014 05:43 PM
  19. AstroPop's Avatar
    Well it wasn't, but now it is. This 435 is just like a 530 on a different body... Don't know why would it be on the 4xx series...
    Because of stupid people. Including Paul Thurrot, they kept whining when they thought the 530 was intended as an upgrade to the 520 when it clearly was a cost cut version intended at driving the price even lower. The phone got lost in the misinformed river of tears. The mind boggles.

    Now they'll make the distinctly different 4-series the lowest end, so retardos can look at it with fresh eyes and can concentrate on the phone. It's all about driving the price as low as possible, intended to get WP in the hands of people who would normally buy a dumb phone with a 48x35 pixel screen. Comparing to that it's a high-end piece of gear.
    12-14-2014 05:53 PM
  20. fdalbor's Avatar
    I really have no clue as to what is going on right now. Not saying this is a foolish move or a good move. I just am not sure what it is going on with Microsoft right now. With the 520, 530, 535, 620, 625, 630, and 635 it would seem the low end is covered. Maybe I am just dumb; but are all these phones going to run Win 10. Or maybe they are going to come out with a Win 10 short for these phones. Really at a lost for words. Hope someone is watching what is going on before WP becomes the lost leader of the industry and gets stuck with ONLY low end phones. My backup 635 is starting to look like a FLAGSHIP.
    MikeSo likes this.
    12-14-2014 06:04 PM
  21. RumoredNow's Avatar
    ...It's all about driving the price as low as possible, intended to get WP in the hands of people who would normally buy a dumb phone with a 48x35 pixel screen. Comparing to that it's a high-end piece of gear.
    ...and it is the fast lane to double digit market share. Many of the folks upset about the "onslaught of budget phones" are also upset about the App Gap which is perpetuated by... let's all say it together... "single digit market share."

    Thank you for stepping back and looking at the bigger picture, AstroPop.
    12-14-2014 06:08 PM
  22. Stefan Holder's Avatar
    And so the excuses start again....i am of the firm belief that yet another budget model is NOT needed. MS/Nok already has that segment covered from head to toe. Additionally, to add yet another device to the already confusing numbering scheme is not needed. The Lumia 520/530 should be championing the ultra low end since its about what, over 2yrs old now. Microsoft seems to be adopting Samsung's approach. Throwing a platoon of cheap devices to the wall, diluting your brand and see which device sticks.. Instead of creating and delivering focused devices, Microsoft is swinging in the dark at a target that's already well serviced.
    12-14-2014 06:30 PM
  23. irtiza_fayaz's Avatar
    And so the excuses start again....i am of the firm belief that yet another budget model is NOT needed. MS/Nok already has that segment covered from head to toe. Additionally, to add yet another device to the already confusing numbering scheme is not needed. The Lumia 520/530 should be championing the ultra low end since its about what, over 2yrs old now. Microsoft seems to be adopting Samsung's approach. Throwing a platoon of cheap devices to the wall, diluting your brand and see which device sticks.. Instead of creating and delivering focused devices, Microsoft is swinging in the dark at a target that's already well serviced.
    You know, this could actually work if they get the price right IMO
    12-14-2014 10:29 PM
  24. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    ...and it is the fast lane to double digit market share. Many of the folks upset about the "onslaught of budget phones" are also upset about the App Gap which is perpetuated by... let's all say it together... "single digit market share."

    Thank you for stepping back and looking at the bigger picture, AstroPop.
    Here's my thought. It's just a though, disagree if you want.

    If this phone is only sold in developing markets then you're not going to attract first world developers. Local developers maybe.
    If this phone is sold in first world market, you're attracting people who don't or can't spend money.
    In which way is this at all attractive to developers?

    It's not just about getting numbers so much as about the right user base. That's the point people seem to be missing. Yes numbers are important. Numbers in the right area are more important.

    I have nothing against low end phones I just find this bombardment of low end hardware depressing when we've had people asking for a decent flagship. I'm guessing this is like the 535, another 'left over' from Nokia.

    I'm hoping, for MS sake, that they come out with a decent line up at W10 and I hope they have some surprises with developers on board. I don't think cross platform is enough of an attraction for developers in my view but I am happy to be proven wrong.

    WP still has a relatively poor reputation. Continuously throwing low end hardware at the situation won't help it.
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    12-15-2014 02:33 AM
  25. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    You know, this could actually work if they get the price right IMO
    What? 10? How low does a phone need to go?
    12-15-2014 02:33 AM
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