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  1. HeyCori's Avatar
    When are we getting new Windows Phones to be released? Im ready to jump on board to a windows phone. Everyone tells me to wait. Im being impatient. LOL
    Likely somewhere within the next 2 months. I don't think any manufacturers are releasing new WP models until W10 Mobile is finished.
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    09-02-2015 10:33 AM
  2. nohra's Avatar
    I haven't had any hands-on experience with W10m so I can't say whether it will be bad enough to make me consider getting an iphone on the basis of OS alone. I'm sure it's something that will be gotten used to. But the renders for the new 'flagships' certainly are disappointing. The do not look high-end. The Lumia 830 (aside from it's screen-flex) is a better looking phone than these, and that's even allowing for the hideous black-circle camera area... I hate that design element and hate seeing it be extended to more phones). Unless the cameras just blow away what the Lumia 1020 could do, I doubt I'll be getting one of these.
    09-02-2015 11:20 AM
  3. Ozone06's Avatar
    Sony's Xperia Z5 Premium has an absurd 4K display | The Verge

    Now THAT is design.

    I really want to like the 950 and was getting perturbed by this thread.. then Sony drops this... sony_xperia_z5_premium_10.0.jpg
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    09-02-2015 11:54 AM
  4. theefman's Avatar
    Sony's Xperia Z5 Premium has an absurd 4K display | The Verge

    Now THAT is design.

    I really want to like the 950 and was getting perturbed by this thread.. then Sony drops this... Click image for larger version. 

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    With all the stuff they packed into this the new Lumia's will hopefully only be behind in design.
    09-02-2015 12:25 PM
  5. Spangl01's Avatar
    EXACTLY on ALL counts. The "metallic frame" that everyone is touting actually caused the glass to shatter on my ICON due to a dent in one corner from a drop on a linoleum covered WOOD floor so I'm fine with something other than a metallic phone anyway.
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    09-02-2015 12:34 PM
  6. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    Although i do like the design's, dont get me wrong,,im not trying to praise the 50 and 50xl. Im just trying to say that some people on here are a little too wrapped up with what in there own minds a "Flagship" should look like, especially when they're basing that opinion on rendered pictures and leaked photos and not a finished product thats ready to be released to the public.

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    You are right about one thing here: unfinished products. Though MS will launch them as other unfinished and buggy product: win 10 for PC. I have it on my Lenovo Miix 3 and after only 3 weeks I had to reinstall it...this is how reliable it is. I barelly installed a game and basic stuff: avg, 7zip, bsplayer and woke up with it not updating apps from the store with 80073cf9 error. dism,sfc all said everything is fine..weird. removed my ms account from it, created a local account and nothing wanted to open: start menu, settings, not even tray icons: there is no association for... great wasn't it? I am also using a macbook pro, and for 4 years with every new os version I had no problems at all,none after upgrading. Also with windows 8.1 upgrade from 8.0 there were no issues at all...which leads me to the question: what the ***** has MS done with windows 10??


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    09-02-2015 01:27 PM
  7. Blacklizted's Avatar
    You are right about one thing here: unfinished products. Though MS will launch them as other unfinished and buggy product: win 10 for PC. I have it on my Lenovo Miix 3 and after only 3 weeks I had to reinstall it...this is how reliable it is. I barelly installed a game and basic stuff: avg, 7zip, bsplayer and woke up with it not updating apps from the store with 80073cf9 error. dism,sfc all said everything is fine..weird. removed my ms account from it, created a local account and nothing wanted to open: start menu, settings, not even tray icons: there is no association for... great wasn't it? I am also using a macbook pro, and for 4 years with every new os version I had no problems at all,none after upgrading. Also with windows 8.1 upgrade from 8.0 there were no issues at all...which leads me to the question: what the ***** has MS done with windows 10??


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    What build are you running? Never had that issue with W10 since it went public plus post updates. I'm not switching back to Mac, I got bored. Just looking at the UI makes me want to sleep. I've owned 4 different Mac desktop/laptops since 2012 and have tried Snow Leopard up until Yosemite and comparing the experience with Windows 10, I like Windows 10 better. Now they all run parallels 11 and bootcamp 6.
    09-02-2015 02:46 PM
  8. Karanstyle's Avatar
    Agreed! I too feel little bit skeptical about the Windows 10 Mobile as a OS and Flagships are even more doubtful.
    09-02-2015 02:56 PM
  9. uselessrobot's Avatar
    The Xperia Z5 is what you consider an attractive phone? Ugh, that gold trim looks like ****e. The fact that the gold bits don't even match in color is atrocious. Overall, it almost looks like a bad iPhone 4 knockoff. It's unfortunate because I generally like Sony's designs far more than anything from Apple.

    But really, the biggest problem with that phone is the gold color, otherwise the design is not dissimilar to the 950's. This just goes to show that if you had a bit of metal to any old crap people will think it's the best looking-thing ever.

    Spec-wise, it's identical to the 950XL; except that it's driving a higher resolution display which will likely translate into reduced performance. And it's running Android, which is another mark against it.
    libra89, boomerz, dakken and 1 others like this.
    09-02-2015 07:14 PM
  10. MarkAllett's Avatar
    Hi, did you try installing MacOS on your Miix 3? Have a go at that and let us know how you get on.
    09-03-2015 04:08 AM
  11. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    Hi, did you try installing MacOS on your Miix 3? Have a go at that and let us know how you get on.
    why would I install osx on miix3?


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    09-03-2015 01:52 PM
  12. slivy58's Avatar
    I'm not overly fond of the rendered designs myself yet the more important question is, what regions will these be available in and will it follow suit with the past? As it stands now my carrier has most high-end models available from the top manufactures yet WP has “always” been dismal, if this next batch succumbs to the same fate we might have to look to the competition.
    aXross likes this.
    09-03-2015 09:16 PM
  13. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    I'm not overly fond of the rendered designs myself yet the more important question is, what regions will these be available in and will it follow suit with the past? As it stands now my carrier has most high-end models available from the top manufactures yet WP has always been dismal, if this next batch succumbs to the same fate we might have to look to the competition.
    same in RO with my carrier. I even asked them if I may know the reason. Of course the said, they don't sell, we have no demand for them. And trust me in RO wp devices have been advertised on TV and websites, but they don't sell. A guy from another big carrier told me that he has been responsible for mobile device department marketing and aquisition since 2008, and when MS launched wp7 he was convinced that a new player would gather more customers, curios about the new platform. it did, but after few months he ended up with dozens of return because of how bad it was.After a year of sell and return he dropped the wp platform as a main advertising idea. now only few handsets they have, just to say that they have from every paltform, not really to sell and advertise. I remember orange and vodafone selling windows mobile 6 and 6.5 devices like hell to both business and end users...as choppy as it was wm6.5 sold better.


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    09-05-2015 02:52 PM
  14. grunt0300's Avatar
    I don't know about some of you guys. I've had a lot of cell phones, and right now i've got the LG G3, and the Nexus 5. As far as i'm concerned, the 950XL is designed better than either one. If i could take it home right now, i would.
    dakken likes this.
    09-05-2015 03:39 PM
  15. Vijay_Anand's Avatar
    Maybe my aesthetic sensibilities are not as advanced as some others out there, but I quite like the renders. I'm convinced the final product will be different but these aren't too shabby either. I would have preferred a phone that looks like the 830 with these specs, but I'll happily take a phone that is built like the 640 with Talkman specs.
    09-05-2015 03:55 PM
  16. EnemiesInTheEnd's Avatar
    What's amazing to me is that nobody seems to care about the increased cost of the phones that have fancy materials. They'd rather spend $100+ more to get a phone with no hardware advantage whatsoever, but that is going to be seen as pretty for a couple months before the design inevitably loses it's appeal to newer phone designs. That doesn't really make much sense to me.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
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    09-05-2015 04:27 PM
  17. bo_woods's Avatar
    Aesthetics and beauty of a Smartphone are important alongside functionality/features... Phones are to most more than just some ugly tool like a hammer or a shovel, but instead are great tools that most also want to be beautiful... Like a Wrist Watch, or a Stove, Refrigerator, or a Car... I'd like to think every once wants their motor vehicle to be very top notch function wise, AND have a beautify design...

    I don't see anything wrong with that
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    09-06-2015 01:24 AM
  18. bo_woods's Avatar
    But on another note, the Blue Lumia 950xl image actually doesn't look too bad imo... It is like a mix between the 928, 830, and 640 XL .. I kinda like it, and it'll probably look even better in person, especially with that 1mm silver lining and aluminum buttons.. And that flat front panel probably looks absolutely beautiful like the Surface, on and off...

    The 950 looks worse to me though... The thick silver rim looks bad imo, and just how the entire makeup of the backside of the device comes together is ugly to me, but maybe my perspective will change when seeing actual photos and not images made in a program...

    Nokia's past flagships were truly the result of Beautiful Art and Advanced Technology coming together... Highly Functional and Beautiful, like a Sports Car...

    Nothing at all wrong with me wanting my phone to look good
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    09-06-2015 01:30 AM
  19. aXross's Avatar
    They're indeed not that too bad to look at, its just that it looks underwhelming compared to their past efforts and among the competition. Practical or not, looks do sell and smartphones are very personal device. That's why aesthetics is as important as hardware specifications and features on flagship devices. Especially the fact that Lumia is an underdog and isn't selling a lot in this saturated marketplace (though still great that it manage to stay in the market, thanks Microsoft for that persistence). Lumia has to be attractive on passing potential buyers and then let their curiosity do its thing after the design meets their eye. Samsung have excuse on this (Galaxy S3 - S5) even their previous flagships looks hideous, they're too popular to miss out and they manage their Galaxy line to be a household name of smartphones other than iPhone. Acer Jade Primo is also a bad looking device (only front is bit better) and reminds me a lot of Galaxy S3, so the only attractive thing about it is the Continuum feature.

    There is a high chance that the render may not that accurate and in reality it may look way better, which is why I'm willing to wait to see it for myself. I think the design will be at least Okay but personally I don't think it will reach 'wow' factor for me just like when I first saw 920, 925, 1520, 930 (though some press videos and images with black color doesn't justify to see its details) and even non-flagship 830.

    950 design so far is more commonly dislike here, the back really reminds me of a lot mid-range or some of those cheap Android phones with their gaudy designs. The thick camera ring which supposed to enhance the looks just make it actually looks worse. Lastly the speaker design really ruins everything on both 950 and 950 XL. If they at least make it like from other Lumia design such as from 640 XL speaker slit-design, it would look way better (I have previous mockup posted here I guess). The front are fine, though I wish they should make the screen bit bigger, thus smaller bezels, at least it wasn't white or any brighter colors that expose sensors which looks ugly. At least they stay with black bezels which always looks better

    Nokia's past flagships were truly the result of Beautiful Art and Advanced Technology coming together... Highly Functional and Beautiful, like a Sports Car...
    Indeed! Though actually it wasn't all advance if we talk about specs but in terms of overall package (exception with some Lumia flagships), it was great.

    For now the upcoming Lumia flagship design maybe are transitional to something better next year, I hope. Maybe there is the next Fabula 2.0 design or maybe 640 and 640 XL is the last Fabula design.

    What I really hope that next year flagship, If they do read comments and forums about 950 and 950 XL design, they will try to make better design that will appeal the factions currently we have. For what I remember, this seems to be a first time the Windows Phone community are largely divided regarding the upcoming Lumia flagship design. Pretty sure that some of the people hating/disliked the design will change their minds after seeing the device in actual and this issue will subside. People that still don't like the looks I guess will just accept it regardless and some of they will buy it because of specs and features alone, not looks. So the camp of people who like it will win regardless in terms of debate.
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    09-07-2015 04:03 AM
  20. EnemiesInTheEnd's Avatar
    I'm sorry but while those flagships listed above are $600 + not all flagships are that expensive. The day's of using lower quality materials and skimping on design to lower the price of a phone are over and done with. Companies such as Motorola, OnePlus, Xiaomi, ZTE, Hauwei, just to name a few push out phones with good if not great design, high quality materials, solid build. And are sold for around or under $400. And the have the specs to back it up. Microsoft, with as big a company as it is should have done more here. This almost feels lazy for them. I just don't understand how you can have Surface designers at your disposal and not use them at all here in your mobile flagship.
    I disagree that those phones are on the same level as the major flagship models. These phones always have drawbacks that the major flagships don't. That's why people buy the major flagship phones instead of the much cheaper phones.
    09-07-2015 04:32 PM
  21. imnotevenhererightnow's Avatar
    Sony's Xperia Z5 Premium has an absurd 4K display | The Verge

    Now THAT is design.

    I really want to like the 950 and was getting perturbed by this thread.. then Sony drops this... Click image for larger version. 

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    lovely design, a bit disingenuous on the 4K claims, however. Look closer: Translator

    Or, direct link (if you read German): IFA 2015: IFA 2015: Android luft auf dem 4K-Smartphone Sony Z5 Premium nicht in 4K | heise online
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    09-07-2015 07:01 PM
  22. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    lovely design, a bit disingenuous on the 4K claims, however. Look closer: Translator

    Or, direct link (if you read German): IFA 2015: IFA 2015: Android luft auf dem 4K-Smartphone Sony Z5 Premium nicht in 4K | heise online
    it's useless to show any more images. there are users here that do not understand what premium design is and why it is important.
    09-09-2015 08:36 AM
  23. dakken's Avatar
    it's useless to show any more images. there are users here that do not understand what premium design is and why it is important.
    Since you seem to know exactly what a premium design is,,maybe you can explain in exact detail what "premium design" means. Because im finding it hard to find the correlation between 2 panels of glass and an aluminum strip and premium.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    09-10-2015 06:13 PM
  24. grunt0300's Avatar
    I'm not a cell phone designer, but i know what i like when i see it. For example, the iPhone hasn't really changed their design since the "3", but they've been selling a lot of those "ugly" phones. Steve Jobs believed in the old saying: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I think that he made a few bucks along the way. I like the 950XL. If you don't, then don't buy it. I'll never be able to convince the doubters, so i won't even try. Life is too short to get caught up in silly arguments. Semper Fi.
    09-11-2015 10:35 AM
  25. Harry Wild's Avatar
    These flagship phones should have a variety of color back battery covers that you can buy! That the only great feature for now about Microsoft phones. I am looking at yellow and green!
    09-12-2015 09:00 AM
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