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  1. S6R's Avatar
    no flagship anymore
    08-29-2015 09:00 PM
  2. Murani Lewis's Avatar
    I am very much ready to purchase the Cityman and plunge straight in to the Windows 10 Mobile experience. I am not buying the phone for it looks but because it is a flagship device that runs my operating system of choice that ties in best with my Windows 10 experience. I've been using an iPhone for the past 8 months since I sold my HTC One M8 WP version due to dropping my Verizon contract. Funny thing is that each day i'm reminded of how much I prefer the Windows Phone experience and can't wait until the Cityman and Talkman is available. A platform grows because users stick with it not jump and throw hissy fits due to renders. Take the time to hold the device and use the deice in-store to get a feel first.
    08-29-2015 09:18 PM
  3. ntice_521's Avatar
    They all look the same in the dark.
    08-29-2015 09:22 PM
  4. bo_woods's Avatar
    They all look the same in the dark.
    Lol true
    08-29-2015 09:29 PM
  5. Musicman247's Avatar
    Held a 640XL for the first time today, and have to say I liked it. The 950XL looks like it will be a thinner version, so I'm pumped!
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    08-29-2015 09:40 PM
  6. bo_woods's Avatar
    Held a 640XL for the first time today, and have to say I liked it. The 950XL looks like it will be a thinner version, so I'm pumped!
    Yea I like the 640 xl design... If it had more premium looking glass and a more seamless construction, I feel I would like it more than the 1520.
    08-29-2015 09:47 PM
  7. aveese's Avatar
    i can't get myself to like it -_- gosh
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    08-29-2015 09:48 PM
  8. ramtwins25's Avatar
    Agreed. More durability and functionality trumps flash to me. I am not just saying that because it "is missing" in Windows Phone. I say it because it is the truth for me.
    08-29-2015 09:54 PM
  9. windowshopper23's Avatar
    Microsoft is behind, plain and simple. They aren't following the trends general consumers are moving towards. Instead they focus on business, and office applications and things of that nature. They don't understand what sells, that goes for their Windows Phone platform as a OS and their flagship devices. These latest "flagships" speak directly too that. Everyone, including Samsung for christ sake, has gone toward the more well designed, premium materials approach. That includes smaller market Chinese companies which tend to get ragged on (ZTE, Haweii, OnePlus,etc) And yet Microsoft decides to push out a flagship that looks like something that would have been popular back in 2010. They have the perfect evolution of design starting at the 920 (still one of the better devices I've ever seen in terms of design), moving towards the 925 (which many regard as the overall best lumia to date) And the latest well designed model imo the 930 and 830 respectively. Aluminum frames mixed with solid polycarbonate, and well built construction. Instead of continuing that evolution they go backwards and use the cheap mid-range flagship 640 and 640 XL as the template for it's latest 2015 flagships. And while yes, some will say the 640 was well reviewed for it's price point and performance, that means nothing. It's a mid-range flagship, enough said. The only downsides the 930 received were it's weight and thickness, both of which Nokia had worked on with the 830. It makes no sense whatsoever that a concept ends up looking better than the final product. Typically concepts are too outlandish, unrealistic. This one however, works towards continuing the evolution of both the 930 and 830. Making a truly incredible, flagship worthy device. A device with a 5.7" QHD Display, slim bezels on the sides making for a more narrow, comfortable device to hold in one hand. Keeping the thin profile of the 830, yet with the aluminum frame feeling solid in the hand.

    lumia-940-concept-jonas-daehnert-1.jpg
    08-30-2015 01:04 AM
  10. bo_woods's Avatar
    Microsoft is behind, plain and simple. They aren't following the trends general consumers are moving towards. Instead they focus on business, and office applications and things of that nature. They don't understand what sells, that goes for their Windows Phone platform as a OS and their flagship devices. These latest "flagships" speak directly too that. Everyone, including Samsung for christ sake, has gone toward the more well designed, premium materials approach. That includes smaller market Chinese companies which tend to get ragged on (ZTE, Haweii, OnePlus,etc) And yet Microsoft decides to push out a flagship that looks like something that would have been popular back in 2010. They have the perfect evolution of design starting at the 920 (still one of the better devices I've ever seen in terms of design), moving towards the 925 (which many regard as the overall best lumia to date) And the latest well designed model imo the 930 and 830 respectively. Aluminum frames mixed with solid polycarbonate, and well built construction. Instead of continuing that evolution they go backwards and use the cheap mid-range flagship 640 and 640 XL as the template for it's latest 2015 flagships. And while yes, some will say the 640 was well reviewed for it's price point and performance, that means nothing. It's a mid-range flagship, enough said. The only downsides the 930 received were it's weight and thickness, both of which Nokia had worked on with the 830. It makes no sense whatsoever that a concept ends up looking better than the final product. Typically concepts are too outlandish, unrealistic. This one however, works towards continuing the evolution of both the 930 and 830. Making a truly incredible, flagship worthy device. A device with a 5.7" QHD Display, slim bezels on the sides making for a more narrow, comfortable device to hold in one hand. Keeping the thin profile of the 830, yet with the aluminum frame feeling solid in the hand.

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    I agree...
    I Particularly dont understand why they appear to have ditched curved glass for the flagships... It looks and feels superior to a flat face...
    Also i really predicted that the Lumia flagships line going forward to would continue to evolve design wise in the manner it always has...
    Becoming more and more beautiful every gen, while still paying homage and showing some genetic resemblance to the last gen, and being radically different than the rest while also being simple.

    I expected that the "Surface Phone" line would be where we see designs completely unrelated to Lumia...

    These leaked devices sadly to me look like tacky, midrange android phones... They imo will never catch ppl's attention or awe...instead ppl will probably see the monstrosity, think cheap android phone, and move one... The 920,925,1520,930, & 830 all looked cool, and were eye catching yet had simple designs...

    These designs do show some resemblance, but they are more like ugly offspring rather than newly evolved fresh younglings
    08-30-2015 01:27 AM
  11. windowshopper23's Avatar
    I agree...
    I Particularly dont understand why they appear to have ditched curved glass for the flagships... It looks and feels superior to a flat face...
    Also i really predicted that the Lumia flagships line going forward to would continue to evolve design wise in the manner it always has...
    Becoming more and more beautiful every gen, while still paying homage and showing some genetic resemblance to the last gen, and being radically different than the rest while also being simple.

    I expected that the "Surface Phone" line would be where we see designs completely unrelated to Lumia...

    These leaked devices sadly to me look like tacky, midrange android phones... They imo will never catch ppl's attention or awe...instead ppl will probably see the monstrosity, think cheap android phone, and move one... The 920,925,1520,930, & 830 all looked cool, and were eye catching yet had simple designs...

    These designs do show some resemblance, but they are more like ugly offspring rather than newly evolved fresh younglings
    Exactly. I just don't understand Microsoft's thought process here. They clearly used the 640 as the primary influence here and that was a mistake. The 640 pales in comparison to much older windows phones such as the 920/925 which are 2 pushing 3 year old devices. You wait almost 3 years to release a flagship, yet it looks like they've gone backwards with this phone. Again, this is all about design right? Well Nokia's original concepts for their windows phones even blow this out of the water. And these are from Nokia's beginnings with Windows.

    nokia-windows-phone-1-picture-2.png

    conceptnokiawindowsphones22.jpg

    Again, I just don't understand how this falls in line with what Microsoft was saying about a potential Surface inspired phone. This clearly isn't it.

    Microsoft, how hard is it to put something like this out on the market? It's the proper evolution of past flagships..

    lumia-940-concept-jonas-daehnert-4.jpg

    Windows Phone really needs a proper flagship. Till then, I'll stick rock the 930/Icon, it performs great and looks like it belongs with the modern flagships of 2015.
    08-30-2015 02:42 AM
  12. madapo's Avatar
    YES it's not good.
    08-30-2015 05:24 AM
  13. 11B1P's Avatar
    Did I miss something, or is everyone complaining about the design, which hasn't even been released yet? Why don't you wait to pass judgement once you see the phone IN PERSON.
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    08-30-2015 06:17 AM
  14. colinkiama's Avatar
    Did I miss something, or is everyone complaining about the design, which hasn't even been released yet? Why don't you wait to pass judgement once you see the phone IN PERSON.
    It's competing against the iPhone 6/6s, s6/s6 edge+, z3+/Z5. you don't need to see it in real life to see that Microsoft flopped the design this year.
    08-30-2015 06:46 AM
  15. iamakii's Avatar
    It's competing against the iPhone 6/6s, s6/s6 edge+, z3+/Z5. you don't need to see it in real life to see that Microsoft flopped the design this year.
    Correct. I'm sorry but it doesn't even take a good pair of eyes to see these ugly renders of the next MS flaships are worse than those stated above.
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    08-30-2015 06:49 AM
  16. tangledW's Avatar
    Let me just put this out there...

    Microsoft could come out with the most beautiful design ever and it would still be crap, because it's Microsoft.

    Vise versa, Apple could come out with the Talkmans exact design and it would be revolutionary.

    I couldn't care less, give me function, give me specs, give me durability.
    08-30-2015 12:38 PM
  17. Petre Lazaroiu's Avatar
    I want Lumia with intel proc and NVidia graphic
    08-30-2015 12:51 PM
  18. ArthJar's Avatar
    I want Lumia with intel proc and NVidia graphic
    You might as well start trying to stuff a micro-wave oven into your pockets.
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    08-30-2015 12:59 PM
  19. EnemiesInTheEnd's Avatar
    It's competing against the iPhone 6/6s, s6/s6 edge+, z3+/Z5. you don't need to see it in real life to see that Microsoft flopped the design this year.
    All of which are incredibly expensive phones. If the Microsoft Flagships are more affordable but have similar performance, that seems like a very good thing.

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    08-30-2015 02:34 PM
  20. elindalyne's Avatar
    I'm going to wait until I see an actual picture and not a render before I make any decisions.
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    08-30-2015 03:07 PM
  21. dakken's Avatar
    I think people here are misguidedly equating looks with quality, saying stuff like it looks cheap, doesnt look like a flagship, doesnt look expensive, looks bland and unispired ugliest phone ive ever seen. So i ask -why? Why does it look cheap? Because its poly? Same materials used in other Nokia flagships. Doesnt look expensive? Why? Because it doesnt use an inexpensive metal like. aluminum as a frame? Doesnt look like a flagship. Why? Because it doesnt have capacitive buttons like the BLU Win HD. lte a midrange phone? Doesnt look expensive. Why? Because it doesnt have an "I" in front of the name? Maybe I-lumia branding would make look expensive? Looks bland and uninspiring? Because its black and white and not colourful like previous lumias? And ugly i just plain dont get. What about this phone makes it ugly? I have no clue to that one.

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    08-30-2015 04:26 PM
  22. windowshopper23's Avatar
    All of which are incredibly expensive phones. If the Microsoft Flagships are more affordable but have similar performance, that seems like a very good thing.

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    I'm sorry but while those flagships listed above are $600 + not all flagships are that expensive. The day's of using lower quality materials and skimping on design to lower the price of a phone are over and done with. Companies such as Motorola, OnePlus, Xiaomi, ZTE, Hauwei, just to name a few push out phones with good if not great design, high quality materials, solid build. And are sold for around or under $400. And the have the specs to back it up. Microsoft, with as big a company as it is should have done more here. This almost feels lazy for them. I just don't understand how you can have Surface designers at your disposal and not use them at all here in your mobile flagship.
    08-30-2015 04:33 PM
  23. windowshopper23's Avatar
    I think people here are misguidedly equating looks with quality, saying stuff like it looks cheap, doesnt look like a flagship, doesnt look expensive, looks bland and unispired ugliest phone ive ever seen. So i ask -why? Why does it look cheap? Because its poly? Same materials used in other Nokia flagships. Doesnt look expensive? Why? Because it doesnt use an inexpensive metal like. aluminum as a frame? Doesnt look like a flagship. Why? Because it doesnt have capacitive buttons like the BLU Win HD. lte a midrange phone? Doesnt look expensive. Why? Because it doesnt have an "I" in front of the name? Maybe I-lumia branding would make look expensive? Looks bland and uninspiring? Because its black and white and not colourful like previous lumias? And ugly i just plain dont get. What about this phone makes it ugly? I have no clue to that one.

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    It's a poorly executed design. Plain and simple. The bezel is ridiculous. In a day and age where almost every company has made the attempt to minimize bezel, it looks like Microsoft didn't get the memo. The speaker located near the camera just isn't practical. If anything place it near the bottom and below the device along the charging port. The Windows logo on the back looks tacky, they should have kept it subtle. The only pros of this phone are with the Cityman. I have always liked the 1020 style camera ring which the 830 adopted.

    You can't possibly tell me this:

    cityman.0.jpg

    Looks more like a flagship than this:

    lumia-940-concept-jonas-daehnert-4.jpg

    And that concept it's unrealistic in the slightest. It's a evolution of the 930 and 830 respectively. Following the trends others have gone towards with smaller bezels, curved edges to the display. Thin profile. And more importantly the design language flows better with the Surface line-up of products. Bottom line the 950 has a uninspired design.
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    08-30-2015 04:48 PM
  24. elindalyne's Avatar
    I mean I get it... The angles in the render aren't the most flattering. It totally appears that you're losing a bunch of screen size on the bottom, but then you look at the current phones on the market and realize the real estate is basically the same. Wait for some real photos and photos at different angles.
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    08-30-2015 04:51 PM
  25. missionsparta's Avatar
    Until those photos are confirmed 100%, this argument may all be in moot.
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    08-30-2015 04:52 PM
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