10-06-2015 01:40 PM
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  1. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    I think Microsoft's best shot at getting these phones out there is pricing them competitively. They're going to be more expensive than the OnePlus 2 but at the same time they're also going to have far more availability.
    09-07-2015 08:59 AM
  2. fdalbor's Avatar
    The only hope Microsoft has of making a bit of a splash is to build a very, very good phone and put the price low enough that people will buy it to get great specs at a affordable price. If they overprice it like they did with the 830 it will flop like the 830 did (even though it is a good phone). The 640 is a great phone for the amount of money they are asking for it. I bought one to replace my 820 as my main Windows phone. I looked at the 830 and decided it was not worth what they asked for it. I will be interested in these new phones; but only if the price is reasonable. Question is what is reasonable to me might not be reasonable to someone else. Doubt I would pay over 500$ for the 940 and then only if it was unlocked. I would be willing to get a AT&T/Cricket locked phone but would not pay over 400$ for it. I use Consumer Cellular/ Cricket for my two main phones.
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    09-07-2015 10:53 AM
  3. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    way to go people, giving Microsoft aaaaaall the info it needs to suck all the money we want to spend!

    how did you all fall for this trap?

    OP i don't trust you, i will be watching you. :watchingyou:
    You say that like we're all giving a number based on what we think the phones are worth. I'm giving mine on the high side of what they're worth, not what I think is a good price. Running near-EoL chips and an incomplete OS, they SHOULD be $450 and below. Instead, I think Microsoft's going to pretend it's Apple and leave the prices high, scaring people away from a platform change.
    09-07-2015 11:16 AM
  4. Zulfigar's Avatar
    I'd expect a $599 for the 950 and $699 for the 950 XL. If it's less, awesome, if more... why?
    09-07-2015 11:23 AM
  5. 11B1P's Avatar
    At those prices, I'll be staying with my Icon for a while longer.
    09-07-2015 11:48 AM
  6. Tom Raccoon's Avatar
    No, you are just pretending that the Lumia 950 and the bigger one specs are outdated, because you can't rate those phones too high (in other words, they're not outdated just because you say so, or because a mad Chinese OEM made an Android with 4GB of RAM). They will be outdated just when MS or another make a W10M with better specs. Just last week were released new Sony smartphones with SD810, and Qualcomm said that the new processor is several months ahead (despite being tested right now).

    If somebody expect the ugly brothers to cost below $500, then somebody is probably wrong. Maybe the smaller one will cost $500, but I expect it to be near $700.
    Joe Dubya likes this.
    09-07-2015 12:03 PM
  7. slivy58's Avatar
    People talking about low price or the devices won't sell need to realize a few things...

    1. These phones won't sell well regardless.
    2. Microsoft doesn't expect them to sell well.
    3. These devices are targeting the few enthusiasts that will pay the price.

    I'd guess the 950 & 950XL will be no less than $600 & $700, respectively.
    If you are right in that they won't sell well, few enthusiasts wanting a flagship and MS mentality that they don't care/expect high sales then WP is in deep trouble. Can't see WP being relegated to only the "budget minded" so budget /low-spec'd phones is what it'll be, for me MS has made the future of the WP very uncertain and confusing with their constant changes and delays, if they keep heading down this narrow path then we'll never see a great presence in the mobile phone market, so if the 950/950XL are a fail (if they actually materialize) then there is only one entity to blame and it is not the consumer... No, one or two handsets aren't going to make or break it, but, it does matter what kind of splash it makes coming into the market as to whether it has a negative or positive impact.
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    09-07-2015 12:09 PM
  8. Dietrich Cleijne's Avatar
    I am a huge MS fan, but frankly, i still havent seen the successor to the L1020 or my L1520.
    If these 950's are it, then i will stay with my L1520, because it still looks brand new, it still feels brand new and it works like a brand new device.
    Even if this 950XL would cost 350 USD i don't think i would buy it, but like everyone else i haven't seen them for real.

    A Windows Mobile Surface device with a "6 screen and high end specs for about 700 to 800 USD i would buy in a heartbeat.
    Joe Dubya likes this.
    09-07-2015 12:19 PM
  9. LuxuryTouringZone's Avatar
    I'll go with $750 CAD for the XL and maybe $700 for the regular.
    09-07-2015 12:56 PM
  10. ArtificiallyYours's Avatar
    $750 if I had to guess.
    Last edited by ArtificiallyYours; 09-07-2015 at 02:35 PM.
    09-07-2015 01:27 PM
  11. Goran Maniquant's Avatar
    Well I think since there is fierce competition in the sub $400 price range, there will be trying to hit that price range. Already Microsoft has been having a tough time this past year so of they make it to expensive not many people will buy it. But I think once Windows 10 mobile comes out it should be a fierce phone. But you never know, they might seriously gauge us. Come on guys, the 950 XL has a snapdragon 810. I'm guessing around $500 to $600 dollars but I am hoping $400.
    09-07-2015 03:10 PM
  12. triageatdawn's Avatar
    $499 and $599 in the USA, 520 and 620-650 euros in Europe.
    09-07-2015 04:06 PM
  13. Joe Dubya's Avatar
    I am a huge MS fan, but frankly, i still havent seen the successor to the L1020 or my L1520.
    If these 950's are it, then i will stay with my L1520, because it still looks brand new, it still feels brand new and it works like a brand new device.
    Even if this 950XL would cost 350 USD i don't think i would buy it, but like everyone else i haven't seen them for real.

    A Windows Mobile Surface device with a "6 screen and high end specs for about 700 to 800 USD i would buy in a heartbeat.
    I so love the L1520 - best looking, best specced Lumia ever IMHO - but my pockets too small. 5-5.5" and I'd buy that and skip Cityman / Talkman.

    (Actually, the looks of Cityman growing on me - especially the blue - but not Talkman - again the size issue! Argh)
    09-07-2015 04:35 PM
  14. Joe Dubya's Avatar
    Not sure I really care about price if they don't get it "right" (for me). By right, I mean:

    - definitively best camera (no debates, anybody running the test will see it is equal or better than any iPhone or Android in all conditions
    - quick (I think 808 or 810 will be fine)
    - good screen (1080p is all that is needed, more only better if battery / weight still good)
    - great battery (always go through a day or more without any worries)
    - weight - thin and light - doesn't have to be "thinnest and lightest" (I don't like those compromises), just thin and light (i.e. in the ballpark of current flagships)

    I love WP10, app gap doesn't really bother me, but the hardware....just deliver me an "equal or better" on all fronts and I'll open the wallet wide. Skimp on anything and I'll pass, buy an L930 online.

    (PS - I couldn't give a crap about continuum - I appreciate that some people will love this and that MSFT has done their market research, but I love my Surface and this adds nothing for me)
    09-07-2015 04:51 PM
  15. imnotevenhererightnow's Avatar
    In my ideal scenario, they're starting at $400-449 and $500-549 respectively

    I'd actually like to complicate things a bit to ask: What price would drive you away from either the 950 or the 950XL?

    For me, over $500 for the 950 would kill it for me. Over $650 for the 950XL would be a dealbreaker for me also.

    I simply can't comprehend either device commanding more than those prices given the expected specifications. The 950, in particular has very little wiggle room in price considering the really compelling values that exist with SD808 phones. There are multiple SD808 phones with prices at or around $400.
    09-07-2015 05:09 PM
  16. slivy58's Avatar
    Not sure I really care about price if they don't get it "right" (for me). By right, I mean:
    You are right, if they flub it up price doesn't really matter, as for "getting it right", for me it means getting the lead out and continuing a stable, forward movement along with making the devices easily obtainable in "all" markets and not just the selective ones, I have a sneaky suspicion though...
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    09-07-2015 05:09 PM
  17. Jazmac's Avatar
    I'm thinking if its carried by AT&T, its get that 100 dollar AT&T premium on it. Considering development, testing advertising costs, yada yada, about easily 749-849. Save up!
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    09-07-2015 06:14 PM
  18. hoanglongroyal's Avatar
    the L930 had been priced at ~600$, then I think with new great specs, L950 might take around 650-700$
    About continuum, I have no much experience about device protocol, but I think it's better if this feature come with wireless support. A dock is not what I want to carry with all time.
    09-07-2015 09:55 PM
  19. Davis P B's Avatar
    Methinks around $600 for the 950 and $700 for the 950XL
    09-07-2015 10:30 PM
  20. tangledW's Avatar
    If you are right in that they won't sell well, few enthusiasts wanting a flagship and MS mentality that they don't care/expect high sales then WP is in deep trouble. Can't see WP being relegated to only the "budget minded" so budget /low-spec'd phones is what it'll be, for me MS has made the future of the WP very uncertain and confusing with their constant changes and delays, if they keep heading down this narrow path then we'll never see a great presence in the mobile phone market, so if the 950/950XL are a fail (if they actually materialize) then there is only one entity to blame and it is not the consumer... No, one or two handsets aren't going to make or break it, but, it does matter what kind of splash it makes coming into the market as to whether it has a negative or positive impact.
    MS has detailed theur plans. It in involves only a few handset, in the categories of budget, enterprise and flagship. They want to rely on partners more.

    I think this is actually a good strategy. I'm not smart enough to say what can make Windows mobile successful in the US, but I'm smart enough to know that no one else here does either.

    We can only hope. In the mean time, Windows mobile is doing increasingly well overseas - I think this is the key to success. Much as Android became very popular globally before succeeding in the US.
    09-07-2015 11:54 PM
  21. tangledW's Avatar
    Anyone saying $500 or less are delusional.
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    09-07-2015 11:57 PM
  22. Char8's Avatar
    Probably $599 and $699, maybe $50 more for each, regular flagship prices. If they introduce a Surface phone however, things might change, maybe.
    09-08-2015 12:44 AM
  23. hemanlive's Avatar
    MS is losing market share even in developing countries. One of the reasons it wrote off Nokia acquisition was that it failed to meet even the modest sales targets.
    I am not guessing what the price should be, but I think that if MS is really serious about increasing its phone sales and market share, it has to go very aggressive with pricing. Price the phone almost cost-to-cost. And if the Chinese manufacturers can sell top of the line spec phones for about 400 USD or less, I don't think MS should price these two phone anywhere in excess of 500 - 550 USD. If they do that, they will achieve two things: increased sales figures and more importantly send a very loud and clear message that they are very serious about their phones and the competitors should really watch out for.
    If the rumors about them pricing in the range of latest Galaxy phones are true, I am afraid the sales volume might not pick up.
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    09-08-2015 04:10 AM
  24. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    Heard of price somewhere between 590$ and 640$ for 950 and 690$-760$ for 950xl..so huge prices for the mediocre design they have. again specs aren't everything.
    09-08-2015 04:59 AM
  25. imnotevenhererightnow's Avatar
    Anyone saying $500 or less are delusional.
    With all due respect, speculating around $500 or less seems quite reasonable considering the specifications for the 950. You've got the LG G4, Moto X, OnePlus Two, all with specs at, near, or just above the 950 and they all cost $500 or less. That's not even counting the upcoming Nexus 5X which expects to start around $400 and packs the SD808 (albeit with a lower spec camera), fingerprint scanner, etc.

    So yeah, maybe not $400, but below $500 for the 950 doesn't sound outlandish.
    Last edited by imnotevenhererightnow; 09-08-2015 at 08:53 AM.
    09-08-2015 08:41 AM
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