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  1. John M Beauchemin's Avatar
    You don't even know what you are talking about. Great job!

    The rest in you comment is so useless it's not even worth commenting.
    His post history is 500 posts of trashing Microsoft products. I blocked him since he obviously has nothing constructive to say. Obvious troll is obvious.
    09-29-2015 11:29 AM
  2. Krystianpants's Avatar
    They definitely look better than the new nexus phones that Google just announced.

    I do like that they partnered with major banks so that their apps support logging in with the fingerprint imprint. My guess is that Microsoft will just throw the iris scanner in there for unlocking and do nothing else with it.
    09-29-2015 11:52 AM
  3. mrdeeds_72's Avatar
    Design is nothing spectacular, but solid. I think it will really come down to pricing for the general public. It needs to be a step below Samsung and Iphone in order to get the average joe to consider.
    09-29-2015 12:51 PM
  4. pepsicocom's Avatar
    Walmart and several other major retailers have turned their back on tap to pay. Is there something more than a "keeping up with the Jonses" attraction? I think I might have read that credit cards will soon be adaptable to tap to pay. I don't plan to use it unless I'm forced because I don't like being an early adopter of things that are linked to my cash accounts.
    09-29-2015 01:20 PM
  5. pepsicocom's Avatar
    WPs have been a step below Samsung and iPhone for years now. There is no reason to think that will change with this device, especially now that we see the iOS/Android flagships north of US$700 in the Americas.
    09-29-2015 01:22 PM
  6. Krystianpants's Avatar
    These are not game changer phones, but I think they look great and are solid premium devices. The ONLY game-changer for WP will be getting apps. If WP had all the apps iOS has, we probably wouldn't even be having this discussion.

    I do think Here authentication will be a moderately big deal (assuming its fast). Continuum will be important to some users, but not everyone. My biggest disappointment is no tap and pay wireless payments. This is basically a software thing that can come later, but its frustrating to me as a WP user that we still don't have this. Its been promised since WP8.0 at least - maybe even 7. The technology is there, but MS cant work out the business end. There's really no excuse for this. Hopefully they have a surprise for us on launch day.
    I use PayPal app as it's supported in a lot of places here.
    09-29-2015 02:17 PM
  7. MeiSquawk's Avatar
    They looked nice to me. I am not super crazy about the polycarbonate but if that is the only way we can get to the battery and Micro SD card then I will deal with it. If they feel like the 640 XL then I am totally fine with it.
    09-29-2015 03:15 PM
  8. Shon Torcher's Avatar
    well said bro, my thoughts are similar to you, at one stage there was a king in terms of mobile design called Nokia, after that microsoft making some nonsense design, all lumia phones looks similar, there are nothing new, its terrible , just look samsung s6 edge, huawei p7 and p8, iphones and many other, they are offering better design, but our favorite brand lumia is offering rubbish design , after leaked images of lumia 950 and 950 xl , my heart is weeping , so sad lumia its so sad, you are not thinking about your hardcore customers
    09-29-2015 03:51 PM
  9. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    First I never said iphone has all the wow factors. Also I've never said either that Galaxy series are perfect. You are telling me windows phone is slick and a joy to use...yes, 8.1 was like this, but for sure not windows 10 which is almost at the launch date and still works like a mediocre toy. Continuum? I do not want to start talking about this again, it's not a wow factor, and many have said this. Iris scanner, again nothing special like also unlocking the phone with touchid, good to have but nothing so special. Apps? well sorry but having the apps updated once every 4-5 months is not something I want for a phone I've paid good money on. Banks apps missing, local apps missing, events apps missing, most of all the good games are on ios and android, operator support is almost missing for wp. Shall I go on? Everyone has the right to use what fits best for him/her, but to praise something that is becoming a total fail, seems to much out of anything...I am not defending either platform, every one of them has it's flaws, but the direction WP is going is a total nonsense; a 3rd reboot of the OS, all the good stuff from 8 and 8.1 seem more and more to be taken out. Everyone is talking about universal apps...how many have risen up till now? how many? the first ipad was not even launched and the store already had hundreds of them optimized for it at the launch day...apple watch, barely launched and at that time there were many apps updated to support it..sorry for the comparison but it's the true facts that devs care for others but not for MS's platform, sad but true! how many good apps are updated to universal, and launched for both PC and phone in preparation for the big windows 10 mobile release? This is a clear message that devs do not care at all about it.
    Another guy here says I do not know what I am talking about when speaking for continuum...please spare me, go ahead spend that enormous over 700$ on a new 950 and tell everyone that you have continuum on it...wow it's the thing that matters, continuum will save WP and many android and ios users will rush and switch...:)) It's nice to dream but it's also more productive to be realistic.
    You're welcome to your opinions but I have three operating systems running on three devices that I use regularly and I've used all the major operating systems in-depth over the years. I'm running Android, Windows Phone 8.1, and Windows 10 Mobile. From where I stand, and from what I've learned and seen, Windows 10 Mobile has a lot of potential. It can be an amazing operating system, and it's well on its way. In many ways it's far superior to Windows Phone 8.1. It just needs time. It's not easy building an operating system from scratch. It's not easy for a huge software corporation that is known and is important practically anywhere in the world to fail so miserably with an operating system and to say "Okay let's give it one more shot anyways." And they're getting there. Windows 10 is already arguably the best iteration of Windows ever and Microsoft is truly making an effort to listen more to the Insiders. No, not everything the Insiders want is there, that only happens in software-flavored fairy tales. But we have seen major improvements, and we continue to see those improvements. No, Windows 10 Mobile isn't perfect but it's a joy to use and it's quickly surpassing Windows Phone 8.1 and in some of the important ways it already has.
    And THAT is the wow factor of Windows 10 Mobile. Because no one has ever built an operating system like Microsoft is. No company has ever thrown away their insufferable pride and said "Right, we seriously screwed this up. Time to start over, except we'll see what our loyal customers want instead." We, the Windows Insiders, watched Windows 10 Mobile get built nearly from scratch, and we're still watching it get built. It is the first time an operating system has been developed like this, the first time a feedback system has been integrated into the operating system like this, the first time updates have been handled like this, the first time an operating system has been looked at like this. Windows 10 Mobile ISN'T Android because Android does not work like Windows 10 Mobile does. Google can't, their operating system is too fragmented, too broad. Apple can't, they're too prideful, they're too strict. Want to know the wow factor? Windows 10 Mobile is the wow factor.
    And yeah, Continuum is pretty darn cool. It's nothing super amazing and innovative but come on, wake up. Neither Android or iOS have a wow factor either besides support. iOS has 3D Touch, but what's so special about that? More hidden menus? Constantly accidentally doing the wrong thing because what was once one tap has become three different taps?
    With fingerprint scanners you have to touch your phone. I don't even have to do that with an iris scanner. You know what? That's pretty cool. Tons of Android and Apple devices have fingerprint scanners. Well how many phones have an iris scanner? I'm pretty sure there's one or two, but neither one of them are widely available. Well, that's pretty cool.
    Oh, I also have the legendary Nokia camera credentials. That's pretty awesome.
    Oh, I have a removable battery and microSD card support. That's unique nowadays!
    Oh, I have Live Tiles. And those make Android look like tacking pictures to a cardboard wall. What would I do without my Live Tiles?

    Oh and apps. Well, what do I want that I don't have? Nothing. I have everything I want, and I've seen evidence of universal applications being added every day. No one can deny that the store is growing. Support is growing, albeit slowly. And that's pretty impressive, considering Apple sells millions and millions and millions of devices and Microsoft has 3% market share. No, it's not thousands of applications upon release, but hey, it's good enough for me.
    So, maybe you don't have a wow factor. But I have plenty. Yes, I love Android (can't stand iOS) but I'm not going to abandon Windows 10 Mobile because it's not perfect. A person who's unwilling to compromise is a fool.
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    09-29-2015 04:06 PM
  10. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    From just the design. No, I don't like it. Uninspiring at all. From the leak it seems like a 2D glass panel, but Lumia1520 already using a 2.5D glass. Looks more like a step back design. The volume rocker and power button are a confusing design. If the back material still using poly carbonate, at least the paint need to be a metallic to make it feels premium flagship phone. IMO flagship using this kind of design is too low profile.
    We're all entitled to our opinions but in my experience a glossy or metallic finish on polycarbonate is a negative. It makes it slippery and cheap feeling. I've always preferred matte.
    Tom Snyder likes this.
    09-29-2015 04:16 PM
  11. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    well said bro, my thoughts are similar to you, at one stage there was a king in terms of mobile design called Nokia, after that microsoft making some nonsense design, all lumia phones looks similar, there are nothing new, its terrible , just look samsung s6 edge, huawei p7 and p8, iphones and many other, they are offering better design, but our favorite brand lumia is offering rubbish design , after leaked images of lumia 950 and 950 xl , my heart is weeping , so sad lumia its so sad, you are not thinking about your hardcore customers
    These designs are just Nokia designs. Original Microsoft designs won't come until next year.
    09-29-2015 04:18 PM
  12. Paul1266's Avatar
    Excellent post Zachary. Totally agree.
    09-29-2015 04:19 PM
  13. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    Excellent post Zachary. Totally agree.
    Which one? There's three there haha.
    Thank you.
    09-29-2015 04:33 PM
  14. pedmar007's Avatar
    The only statement that anyone should make is do any of the MS WP device designers EVER LOOK at the COMPETITION?????????

    Stop if you are living in a condensed BUBBLE!!! Any WP10 device design should resemble the new OS being released. Why make new OS in last year's shell. Any WP10 should be of a premium look if not material but looks is a huge driving factor combined with specs that convince consumers to buy the device. Rocket Science I say!!!
    aXross, iggim and steve_w_7 like this.
    09-29-2015 05:50 PM
  15. Ben Schmidt1's Avatar
    I was leaning towards the XL... but after further reading on the 810 processor and the overheating... which could lead to throttle speeds (I know some of it is hype), higher battery consumption, etc... I'm now going to buy the 950 with the 808 processor.
    09-29-2015 07:55 PM
  16. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    I was leaning towards the XL... but after further reading on the 810 processor and the overheating... which could lead to throttle speeds (I know some of it is hype), higher battery consumption, etc... I'm now going to buy the 950 with the 808 processor.
    If you look at the OnePlus 2 it has the exact same processor as the 950 XL will (Snapdragon 810 v2.1) and it still runs like a beast.
    Older versions of the 810 were much worse (read Sony Xperia Z3+; LG G Flex 2; HTC One M9).
    Last edited by Zachary Boddy; 09-29-2015 at 07:57 PM. Reason: Added a point. They're impointant.
    09-29-2015 07:56 PM
  17. Enlil242's Avatar
    A more refined 925 would have been perfect for me. I will wait ti see these in person, but I LOVED my 925... the 940 that replaced it, while $99, is a toy.
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    09-29-2015 07:57 PM
  18. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    A more refined 925 would have been perfect for me. I will wait ti see these in person, but I LOVED my 925... the 940 that replaced it, while $99, is a toy.
    940? I believe you mean 640 sir, haha.
    09-29-2015 07:58 PM
  19. Ben Schmidt1's Avatar
    If you look at the OnePlus 2 it has the exact same processor as the 950 XL will (Snapdragon 810 v2.1) and it still runs like a beast.
    Older versions of the 810 were much worse (read Sony Xperia Z3+; LG G Flex 2; HTC One M9).
    Isn't it just a clocked down version?
    09-29-2015 08:03 PM
  20. Krystianpants's Avatar
    If you look at the OnePlus 2 it has the exact same processor as the 950 XL will (Snapdragon 810 v2.1) and it still runs like a beast.
    Older versions of the 810 were much worse (read Sony Xperia Z3+; LG G Flex 2; HTC One M9).
    Apparently the mi note 4 out one of them is the perfect 810v2.1 phone. No throttling or anything. Some are skeptical the one plus has the new version. At least the mi did way better with thermals and performance
    09-29-2015 08:07 PM
  21. Krystianpants's Avatar
    The only statement that anyone should make is do any of the MS WP device designers EVER LOOK at the COMPETITION?????????

    Stop if you are living in a condensed BUBBLE!!! Any WP10 device design should resemble the new OS being released. Why make new OS in last year's shell. Any WP10 should be of a premium look if not material but looks is a huge driving factor combined with specs that convince consumers to buy the device. Rocket Science I say!!!
    Have you seen the new nexus phones? The MS ones look much better and we haven't even seen the actual phones.

    And remember people have different taste. You May like pepperoni on your pizza but others may not. Relax. :)
    09-29-2015 08:15 PM
  22. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    Apparently the mi note 4 out one of them is the perfect 810v2.1 phone. No throttling or anything. Some are skeptical the one plus has the new version. At least the mi did way better with thermals and performance
    Isn't the Mi Note 4 aluminum? That would help with thermals.
    And as for being clocked down to the other guy, I don't believe the OnePlus 2 was throttled at all.
    09-29-2015 08:35 PM
  23. boltman2013's Avatar
    Absolutely blows away the just announced Fugly Nexus's and definitely a step up over iPhone 6 s and its crack-able screen replacement cycle BS...so YES they are the best by far flagships looks wise and usability wise site unseen
    09-29-2015 09:01 PM
  24. Anthony Vangeli's Avatar
    Have you got any more details? I'm just about to upgrade from my Lumia 900 (essentially no image processing, good god the noise) and I've always been weary of the "watercolor" appearance of Pureveiw imagery after the 920. Not sure if that's still an issue, or if W10 Mobile (or Lumia Camera) makes it worse.
    Imagine a very grey landscape (sky is cloudy, ocean is grey-ish green, beach is grey, everything grey, etc...) and then taking a picture with your Lumia Camera 5 device. Somehow, the sky is turned electric blue and saturated 100%, the ocean is glowing teal, and the beach is orange.

    I kid you not, this was the exact experience I had the day I upgraded to Lumia Camera 5 on my 1520. I'd say it's a little less extreme in the processing now, but it's still a complete surprise what you're gonna see after capturing an image. Whatever's in the viewfinder almost never matches the final photo, and that's sad. Want to manually underexpose an image to make it darker? Well, LC5 is gonna go in during processing it and boost the exposure until the highlights are blown. It's just an incredibly crappy experience and Windows Camera seems to be going for the same processing.

    Unless they fix Windows Camera (which will be the camera app on all Lumia running W10m,) the 950/XL won't be beating the GS6, G4, and iPhone 6s in any comparisons.
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    09-29-2015 10:21 PM
  25. Ben Schmidt1's Avatar
    If you look at the OnePlus 2 it has the exact same processor as the 950 XL will (Snapdragon 810 v2.1) and it still runs like a beast.
    Older versions of the 810 were much worse (read Sony Xperia Z3+; LG G Flex 2; HTC One M9).
    From another source:
    ...certainly did mention a heatsink that would help dissipate the 810’s heat in its phone – but don’t expect a chip that’s drastically different from what’s already out there. Further improvements to system firmware are also helping to improve 810 performance over time, and as manufacturers of 810-based handsets implement those changes, users should start reaping the benefits.
    Stating that it's the same chip used in the M9 just with a heatsink.

    So, the XL just has a larger heat sink to help the heat dissipate into the phone more efficiently? Sounds like I'm still leaning toward the 808 chip. Either way, I'm digging the phones and can't wait for the MS Conf.
    09-30-2015 12:50 AM
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