09-30-2015 07:34 AM
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  1. Vijay_Anand's Avatar
    I have nothing again the 950... And will get one or the XL day one... Before my 1520 broke, I was a little hesitant due to what more could I want? Even the 640 I am using now, I am very happy with.

    I just don't get all the complaining... You all want a windows phone... Yet you want it to be a a galaxy or an iPhone rather than it being unique as it is. There is nothing cheap about this phone... This phone is designed with function in mind rather than marketing what premium is...

    I was in apple yesterday picking up an iPhone 6s with my girlfriend... My nephew has the galaxy 6 edge... These phones feel awesome and light... Yet people cannot wait to put some ugly case on them... **** design when you will **** it up with a case....

    Windows with poly body is customizable, replaceable, durable, and allows for uniqueness. Storage minimum is 32 which is standard. Real expandable storage that you can use for more than media, apps... Who else does this? This phone has a dedicated camera button, again who else does this? I dont need curved glass... I need my phone to be usable in its default state.

    It makes me laugh at people complaining about things and wanting things... I mean most of the complainers will either get the phone still... Or will go to another platform... Great, why limit yourself.?! I equate the whole premium thing to buying a bike... Almost everyone dreams about a full carbon fiber bike, yet a steel or aluminum fram might be better... It all depends on the application... Most people do not know what they want... All they know is they don't want to look cheap or like they cannot keep up with the Jones. Bike stores know this and play on this... Most do not mind selling you more than you need cause it will do the basic riding that you want and it feels really good.. But you want use it or appreciate it anyhow... But you will show it off and be happy that you have it... Cool...

    It's ok, you look at my bike... Scoff and pass by me with your nose in the air.. But I will be that guy cranking by you again just to do ans show that me in my cargo shorts rather than aero gear just smoked you up that hill cause its about skill... Same with phone or computer... I dont care how it looks ans feels, I care how it works. It is a tool for me.

    Super long post... Just buy what you want...you dont want this phone, dont buy it... But most people hear just want onw to go to another camp to say, look at me... If you want to compete with them so bad, go t get the phone they have... Otherwise own and embrace windows... It is rruely the unique pone and the company who is truly thinking different.
    Couldn't have said it better myself.
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    09-26-2015 01:58 PM
  2. npoe's Avatar
    I liked the phones; they are not awesome and by awesome I mean like the Nokia N8 which is the most awesome looking phone that will be ever be built or dreamt; another phone I like a lot is the HTC M8.

    I have to add that the phone is in line with I would expect and want. More often that I would like, I think that a lot of people get paid to complain.

    Now, price is something that might really stop me from buying the phone.
    09-26-2015 02:29 PM
  3. Visa Declined's Avatar
    Interesting but I guess in India it'll be too expensive...
    Someone recently posted that in India, things were better than the US because you guys don't rely on subsidies, and you pay for your phones up front.

    I guess that doesn't work out too well when the phones are expensive, eh?
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    09-26-2015 04:04 PM
  4. theefman's Avatar
    First it was specs, then apps, now its design that doesn't matter to WP's appeal bit still to the MDDF )Microsoft Delusional Defense Force) its the best OS. Trying to figure out why only WP/10M is the only platform that doesn't need any of the things that makes modern smartphones attractive....

    And BTW, I'm pretty sure no one asks for the new phones to look like an iphone but when you're playing to the crowd the safe jibe makes sense.....
    Sent from my Lumia 1020
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    09-26-2015 05:43 PM
  5. Joe Dubya's Avatar
    Yes, I sort of liked the XL initially and now like it more. Any chance that blue makes it to market? Curious that these new leaks do not shed any more light on the 950 and focus on XL. I would rather get the 950 over the XL but I'm shallow and it looks better, so bigger pockets it is.... Please please please launch the blue...
    09-26-2015 06:10 PM
  6. twint7787's Avatar
    First it was specs, then apps, now its design that doesn't matter to WP's appeal bit still to the MDDF )Microsoft Delusional Defense Force) its the best OS. Trying to figure out why only WP/10M is the only platform that doesn't need any of the things that makes modern smartphones attractive....

    And BTW, I'm pretty sure no one asks for the new phones to look like an iphone but when you're playing to the crowd the safe jibe makes sense.....
    Sent from my Lumia 1020
    Thank you.
    These phones are bland and REGULAR people aren't going to buy them. PERIOD. But what is that you say? These phones aren't for regular folk, they're for WP enthusiasts? Well it seems that most of us are disappointed with the design; 50-50 split AT BEST. In order for me to INVEST in this phone it would need to check every box and it does not do that (comes close though).
    Dropping $750 on a phone? What is the best investment even for a current WP user? iPhone 6S Plus? Note 5? 950 XL? The way I see it two phones have every app you could ever want, look great, and are GUARANTEED to be supported.
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    09-26-2015 06:37 PM
  7. Terrigno's Avatar
    I'll definitely be buying it.
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    09-26-2015 07:46 PM
  8. fitchalcyone's Avatar
    They look chunky, yes, but they also look quite thin. Looking at a 640XL doesn't make it appear all that special, but the sharp back edges do still give it a nice feel and look. If they combine that quality with a thinner design (thin is in, right?), I think I may grow to really like the 950 lineup. Will I get it on day one? That remains to be seen if I can get it with COLOR. I have grown quite fond of my green 930. The only thing I wish I had on it is LTE.
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    09-26-2015 07:52 PM
  9. jmerrey's Avatar
    Specs look good. I'm happy to see integrated wireless charging in both phones, not just the xl. Design is disappointing. Not that it matters, but they will be destroyed in the press reviews for being plastic.
    09-26-2015 10:49 PM
  10. Joe Acerbic's Avatar
    they will be destroyed in the press reviews for being plastic.
    They will be destroyed in the press reviews for not being iPhone and they would be even if they were made of diamond encrusted platinum with racing stripes. I'll buy a 950 XL regardless if only the Exclusivity Demon allows.
    09-26-2015 11:41 PM
  11. illy khan's Avatar
    I was hoping all these leaks to be false.
    I love Windows mobile. Smooth, personal, stable, compatible. But that is just software.
    A flagship phone must be combination of design, specification and functionality.
    1. Design - uninspiring and flat. I do not care how durable is polycarbonat or let say it right - plastic. A flagship must have look and feel... Like 930 has...untill i realised that glance is missing. The devices on the leaks do not have the magic of 930. They look like combination of 640 front and 830 back. With hump that is awful looking, even with chrome ring will be worst. And with this protruding camera module they did not succeeded to implement xenon flash? Fail.
    I do not want my phone to be 6.something mm thin, but if it is 8 or even 9mm i want to be flat, without hump.
    2. Specification - some maybe good. 3GB RAM, 32GB ROM, SD slot. Despite that SD 808 and SD 810 have issues, windows was never suffer from hardware problems like Android. Rumored iris scanner for me is useless instead of fingerprint one in place of home button. Why? Imagine that you are on meeting and want quick to unlock your phone that laying on the table or is in your jacket. Most quick and convenient was is to press home button and fingerprint scanner to unlock the device. You CAN'T put it to scan you iris. At least you must place the phone in front of your face. So, it is not quick and comfortable IMO. But lets say specs are 50-50.
    3. Functionality - i think this is best of all. Totally support windows mobile and hope to grow.

    So, was little long opinion but my conclusion: bad design, 50-50 specs and thumbs up for functionality. Total: 50:50. That is bad result for a flagship that must be sells driver for upcomming Windows phone 10.
    IMO.
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    09-27-2015 07:59 AM
  12. Krystianpants's Avatar
    I liked the phones; they are not awesome and by awesome I mean like the Nokia N8 which is the most awesome looking phone that will be ever be built or dreamt; another phone I like a lot is the HTC M8.

    I have to add that the phone is in line with I would expect and want. More often that I would like, I think that a lot of people get paid to complain.

    Now, price is something that might really stop me from buying the phone.
    See and this is all about taste because the n8 just makes me shudder. And HTC m8 could be better but HTC loves to waste bezel just to show the HTC logo. To me small bezel is important. I like large screens but I don't want the phone to grow with the screen. So as far as design is concerned the phones with the least bezel are better designed. Whether they look better is another story. The new Moto does look good in the right configuration. They let you customize colours and all that. LG makes good use of bezel too but their design hasn't really changed much and they are not really taking risks. The Samsung looks really nice but the wrapping screen morphs.

    When I was in the Apple store the other day looking at the Rose Gold iphone. Even the button is outlined around in rose gold. The attention to detail is really great. This is designed by an artist and engineers. Now Microsoft's phone doesn't look bad in the new slides, but you can tell it was designed by engineers. The way things are placed, it's all there for functionality.

    Now iphone 6 has too much bezel for my liking. If they got rid of the bezel they would have the perfect phone Even the side bezel seems excessive. So right now there really isn't a perfect phone out there that I would say is the ultimate design. Apple just looks the best. Others have better use of bezel. So I will see how this new one looks. Usually the screen is what will catch your eye.


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    09-27-2015 09:39 AM
  13. Gustavo Sanchez's Avatar
    These new phones make me hope my Lumia 1520 doesn't break.
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    09-27-2015 09:58 AM
  14. Kevin Hill2's Avatar
    OH WOW, reading these posts has me rolling on the floor, everyone complained for over a year about no new Windows flagship phones for the Windows faithful as they passed up the best one to date ( HTC M8 ) because it was not a Lumia, and now finally Microsoft has some great new ones coming and here you are picking them apart. Is it the Windows OS you like or is it what it comes in? Reading these post has me believing it is more about looks than it is about the hardware, specs and software. Are they one of the best looking phones? NO, but 90% of you are going to put a case of your choice on them anyway. Two screen choices, wireless charging, expandable memory, good camera, Windows 10 and you are going to stomp your feet because it comes with hubcaps and not chrome rims. If that is all you really think about you would be better off going to Android or Apple if you are after all the fluff they have plenty.
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    09-27-2015 10:09 AM
  15. Gustavo Sanchez's Avatar
    Maybe the reason was that we waited for so long, we were left with the hope of some distant flagships coming our way while everything MS was introducing to the market was cheap stuff. So much time passed that the expectations for those flagships went through the roof, especially since friends in competing platforms had several flagship iterations while we sat on 2-3 year old flagships. Now the flagships are out, and they look like expensive versions of the cheap phones that preceded them. How's that for a downer? I miss the old Nokia times, when I just got 920 and the future was showing us the 1020 and the 1520. Those were the good times!
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    09-27-2015 10:17 AM
  16. jaimeastin's Avatar
    These new phones make me hope my Lumia 1520 doesn't break.
    Well, I am bummed out I did break my 1520, the 950xl has all I wanted from the 1520... Looks better too. I mean man, we have had in many peoples opinions, some great looking lumias... What did they do for sell?! Nothing. Each one of those offerings were crippled in some way... Blame Nokia.

    Microsoft is finally getting all "we" want in one bag. The 950 is a great start. Kinda reminds me of the 900 to 920 release... Here is a quick nice phone (900), but we are gearing up to release the best very soon... (920). Less than a year and such a solid effort.

    All the 1520 was... Is big. Flat screen, buggy, crippled depending on the carrier, and did not help sells... Lower end models sold better than it.

    We all have opinion ans choice, which they all should be exercised... I just don't see much special about bashing the new phones when they are designed with function, purpose, and component wise, executed all top points. The phone ia unique ans will stand out, which I like ans want it to.... That is the lumia way.

    Outside of this design, what do "you all" want? App fap, what's other phones doing that I cant now?! I have not personally found a gotta have feature on any of them... So I stay where I have bee happiest over these years... Windows... And I almost bought an iPhone on Friday... But I am holding out for Oct. 6 for a really grip of information before I go crazy on some leaks and internet opinion.
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    09-27-2015 10:18 AM
  17. Joe Acerbic's Avatar
    You CAN'T put it to scan you iris. At least you must place the phone in front of your face. So, it is not quick and comfortable IMO.
    Quite many seem to think you must use it like a wall mounted retina scanner in the spy movies: upright, straight, a few inches from your face. It doesn't matter if the phone is in front of your face or on the table, it just needs to be turned so the cameras get a picture of your eye.
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    09-27-2015 10:20 AM
  18. peachy001's Avatar
    I had hoped that the back cover would not extend around the sides. Reminds me of my daughter's old 630.

    What I hope they do is have a ton of colours available from day one. I need official, properly fitting back covers.
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    09-27-2015 10:24 AM
  19. gordonfink's Avatar
    I have used all of the premium phones, except the M8. I plan to start using one of those next week, to see what that's like. I think I'll hang onto an 830 (rm-985) or a 1520 just in case.

    Off them all so far, I think the 930 wins in terms of function and looks.

    I do like the look, and have a feeling they'll look better in person. The specs are great. I am afraid the cost will be too high to gain much acceptance though.

    If it costs too much, I'll hang onto one of the others until the price comes down. No way I'm going back to apple, and I'm not real thrilled Android either.
    09-27-2015 10:51 AM
  20. Krystianpants's Avatar
    OH WOW, reading these posts has me rolling on the floor, everyone complained for over a year about no new Windows flagship phones for the Windows faithful as they passed up the best one to date ( HTC M8 ) because it was not a Lumia, and now finally Microsoft has some great new ones coming and here you are picking them apart. Is it the Windows OS you like or is it what it comes in? Reading these post has me believing it is more about looks than it is about the hardware, specs and software. Are they one of the best looking phones? NO, but 90% of you are going to put a case of your choice on them anyway. Two screen choices, wireless charging, expandable memory, good camera, Windows 10 and you are going to stomp your feet because it comes with hubcaps and not chrome rims. If that is all you really think about you would be better off going to Android or Apple if you are after all the fluff they have plenty.
    Of course it's about looks. That's why I bought the Lumia 830 because it looked good. I wouldn't have bought it otherwise.

    I actually didn't mind too much the specs were not that great because windows runs well on it. I don't really play games etc.. But it would be nice to have both. And yes this new one looks pretty good from what we've seen but have to see it in person.

    Phones are about looks man. Realize this is a part of you, an extension. It's always with you. A CEO isn't going to go to some business meeting with important clients and bust out some ugly toys r' us phone. They are likely using an iphone.

    When people buy cars they buy them for looks. Unless they can't afford to be picky. But if you are shelling out big money, it means you can afford to be picky.

    And for me I'm just waiting because my Lumia 830 is good enough. I'll see reviews and what it looks like in person. I want to see what Microsoft does with the update process. If it becomes a carrier/oem driven update process then i'm out. This is really important to me, and probably many users. Apple is my only choice if Microsoft doesn't take control of the update process.
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    09-27-2015 11:17 AM
  21. Krystianpants's Avatar
    I was hoping all these leaks to be false.
    I love Windows mobile. Smooth, personal, stable, compatible. But that is just software.
    A flagship phone must be combination of design, specification and functionality.
    1. Design - uninspiring and flat. I do not care how durable is polycarbonat or let say it right - plastic. A flagship must have look and feel... Like 930 has...untill i realised that glance is missing. The devices on the leaks do not have the magic of 930. They look like combination of 640 front and 830 back. With hump that is awful looking, even with chrome ring will be worst. And with this protruding camera module they did not succeeded to implement xenon flash? Fail.
    I do not want my phone to be 6.something mm thin, but if it is 8 or even 9mm i want to be flat, without hump.
    2. Specification - some maybe good. 3GB RAM, 32GB ROM, SD slot. Despite that SD 808 and SD 810 have issues, windows was never suffer from hardware problems like Android. Rumored iris scanner for me is useless instead of fingerprint one in place of home button. Why? Imagine that you are on meeting and want quick to unlock your phone that laying on the table or is in your jacket. Most quick and convenient was is to press home button and fingerprint scanner to unlock the device. You CAN'T put it to scan you iris. At least you must place the phone in front of your face. So, it is not quick and comfortable IMO. But lets say specs are 50-50.
    3. Functionality - i think this is best of all. Totally support windows mobile and hope to grow.

    So, was little long opinion but my conclusion: bad design, 50-50 specs and thumbs up for functionality. Total: 50:50. That is bad result for a flagship that must be sells driver for upcomming Windows phone 10.
    IMO.
    Yah but iris scan is about security and these phones will be used by enterprises too. And you shouldn't be using your phone during meetings. And you can always bend your head down like you're looking at something and pop it up hehe.

    But to be fair the 810 is v2.1. This has been proven to fix all the issues of the original 810. Read the reviews.
    09-27-2015 11:24 AM
  22. Varun Rajan's Avatar
    Design is not inspiring neither convenient. And after 6 months of release when all the talks of the continuum, the latest OS features and the camera subsides, this phone and its hump is just gonna stare at you.
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    09-27-2015 11:27 AM
  23. wilsey's Avatar
    It looks good after a while.
    Now.. I just hope they better came out with something extraordinary with the camera. Haven't heard anything about the technology that these phones will use.
    920 introduced OIS. 950?
    Last edited by wilsey; 09-27-2015 at 12:02 PM. Reason: typo
    09-27-2015 11:59 AM
  24. illy khan's Avatar
    Yah but iris scan is about security and these phones will be used by enterprises too. And you shouldn't be using your phone during meetings. And you can always bend your head down like you're looking at something and pop it up hehe.

    But to be fair the 810 is v2.1. This has been proven to fix all the issues of the original 810. Read the reviews.
    For me fingerprint is secure enough and most important - more convinient to use. Also during meeting you can use your device to check something without disturbing others etc.
    Will not comment how i must bend my head :-)
    09-27-2015 12:26 PM
  25. Krystianpants's Avatar
    For me fingerprint is secure enough and most important - more convinient to use. Also during meeting you can use your device to check something without disturbing others etc.
    Will not comment how i must bend my head :-)
    Actually fingerprint is super easy to get around. You only need some tape. It's been shown how it can be bypassed with a little effort. An enterprise would prefer something more secure if they have sensitive info on it. If someone wants to bypass fingerprint they can do it with some effort. And before the meeting you can just change your settings not to lock or a larger lock timer. Mines at 15 minutes because I don't like entering my pin constantly. Some have it every time they unlock phone.
    09-27-2015 12:35 PM
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