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  1. nate0's Avatar
    @mistagreg @RumoredNow
    When should we start saving a few bucks for pre-ordering. I saw posted that Brazil was locked in, must be getting close. Any updates?
    03-30-2017 09:42 PM
  2. RumoredNow's Avatar
    LOL @Nate W I'm flattered you think I have that level of inside info...

    I assume you refer to this: https://www.facebook.com/WhartonbrooksBrasil/

    I have to defer to @mistagreg for details beyond what an internet search can bring.
    03-31-2017 05:37 AM
  3. nate0's Avatar
    Yep, it never hurts to ask. :)
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    03-31-2017 08:07 AM
  4. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Maybe @Jason Ward knows something?
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    03-31-2017 11:22 AM
  5. nate0's Avatar
    Looks like it just broke loose...here.

    Of course Jason's blast on it here
    Here is the indiegogo site
    Last edited by Nate W; 03-31-2017 at 05:49 PM.
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    03-31-2017 05:07 PM
  6. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I read Jason's exhaustive report and I can't help feeling disappointed. My Idol smokes the Moment at every turn and cost me $288 from the Magenta Moron Flying Circus. The kicker is definitely the lack of USB-C. I have a ScreenBeam 2 Continuum Edition and it's simply not in the same league as my wired setup. I'm also wondering how well the 720p is going to play with Continuum and a 1080p monitor. Not having a warm and fuzzy feeling about this.
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    03-31-2017 06:01 PM
  7. TgeekB's Avatar
    I read Jason's exhaustive report and I can't help feeling disappointed. My Idol smokes the Moment at every turn and cost me $288 from the Magenta Moron Flying Circus. The kicker is definitely the lack of USB-C. I have a ScreenBeam 2 Continuum Edition and it's simply not in the same league as my wired setup. I'm also wondering how well the 720p is going to play with Continuum and a 1080p monitor. Not having a warm and fuzzy feeling about this.
    I give them credit, I really do. Nice to see a WP fan trying to do something positive. After reading the article though, I have to admit disappointment. No way I would give up my Idol4s for that phone. Wish them the best of luck though.

    Sent from mTalk on my SP4
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    03-31-2017 07:02 PM
  8. RumoredNow's Avatar
    03-31-2017 08:48 PM
  9. meattray's Avatar
    Very interesting. I'll be interested to read a little more into this.

    Does anyone think it's possible they will raise the funds required?
    03-31-2017 08:53 PM
  10. TgeekB's Avatar
    Very interesting. I'll be interested to read a little more into this.

    Does anyone think it's possible they will raise the funds required?
    A million dollars? Quite a feat if they pull it off.

    Sent from my Alcatel Idol 4S
    03-31-2017 08:57 PM
  11. wpfan86's Avatar
    A million dollars? Quite a feat if they pull it off.

    Sent from my Alcatel Idol 4S
    While the specs aren't bad, they aren't exactly cutting edge either. I hope I'm wrong, but 1.1mil dollars seems wholly unrealistic. The NuAns Neo tried the crowd funding route last year with a goal significantly less than that, and they didn't even come close.

    Again, this seems like a pretty good device, but pretty good in an ecosystem whose future is still very cloudy may be too much of a risk for buyers to be willing to take.
    04-01-2017 09:33 AM
  12. PerfectReign's Avatar
    Of course Jason's blast on it here
    Nice write up. Sad to see yet another glass backed device. I don't even get the allure. The back shouldn't be prone to failure like my son's Note 7 and S7 which replaced it.

    I was playing with my work SGS6 yesterday and cannot imagine a 5" screen.


    Sent from mTalk
    04-01-2017 09:59 AM
  13. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Again, this seems like a pretty good device, but pretty good in an ecosystem whose future is still very cloudy may be too much of a risk for buyers to be willing to take.
    IMHO you have to look at it as investment. NOT an Investment in the future. An investment TO HAVE a future for consumer driven devices for this platform.

    Lumia? 650 was their swan song...
    HP? Business, all business all the time...
    Acer? They cried uncle...
    Alcatel? It's a me too retooling of a device with 2 other incarnations. Where's the passion? Idol 4S Windows is an experiment to see if it is worth their time, I'm sure...

    What's left?

    Surface Phone? IMHO, be prepared for sticker shock when that one finally comes around. Easily $1000 USD or more. Let's be realistic, how many units will that sell?

    The time to play hard to please is long past. It's not that hard to see if you follow the story and do the research. It's now or never. This is probably the last chance we have to get a truly dedicated, consumer facing effort going for this platform; perhaps for years to come, perhaps forever. Beggars can't be choosers, right? We shouldn't have to be beggars, but we are. I feel like Oliver Twist in the orphanage, hands outstretched and asking some mean man for another bowl of gruel.

    But along comes a man (Greg Murphy) that's risking a LOT on our behalf. Why? To try and accomplish something worthwhile and lasting. Don't disparage that. He's done more than any other fan of a mobile platform has done. That alone is worth celebrating.

    Schadenfreude, look it up. Literally: shameful joy. I see a LOT of "fans" with this attitude. It's pleasure derived from another person's misfortune. They are predicting failure for Cerulean, just like they did for NuAns Neo and Coship's efforts. They just want to be "right" and you almost can't blame them. But when does it become a self fulfilling prophecy? Sure the haters are gonna hate, but why do the "fans" have to hate so much too?

    C'mon Windows people, let's have faith. Let's show the world we won't die quietly. Let's show the Moment our support. Join me, make a pledge if you can and have a stake in trying to get this thing off the ground. Even Superman had to learn how to walk before he could fly... Be a sponsor and be an advocate. It's so much easier to tear things down than it is to build them up. Don't take the easy way out.

    #ThisIsOurMoment #ColorMeCerulean
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    04-01-2017 11:08 AM
  14. nate0's Avatar
    If I could give two likes for that ^ post above I would. Well spoken.
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    04-01-2017 01:27 PM
  15. anthonyng's Avatar
    C'mon Windows people, let's have faith. Let's show the world we won't die quietly. Let's show the Moment our support. Join me, make a pledge if you can and have a stake in trying to get this thing off the ground. Even Superman had to learn how to walk before he could fly... Be a sponsor and be an advocate. It's so much easier to tear things down than it is to build them up. Don't take the easy way out.

    #ThisIsOurMoment #ColorMeCerulean
    If so, @mistagreg should consider having lower level of pledges just to raise the money? Increments down to $10 maybe. People perhaps don't want the Moment... but would like to help get things rolling to spur on the next version?

    I'm trying to decide one or two :) Would my parents/mom in law be able to handle continuum to watch say youtube on their tv? Just thinking out loud
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    04-01-2017 07:26 PM
  16. fatclue_98's Avatar
    If so, @mistagreg should consider having lower level of pledges just to raise the money? Increments down to $10 maybe. People perhaps don't want the Moment... but would like to help get things rolling to spur on the next version?

    I'm trying to decide one or two :) Would my parents/mom in law be able to handle continuum to watch say youtube on their tv? Just thinking out loud
    A $10 pledge won't get you a $290 phone. Unless you're on T-Mobile, you're not going to find a cheaper Continuum-enabled phone anywhere. With full factory support anyway.
    04-01-2017 07:50 PM
  17. meattray's Avatar
    A $10 pledge won't get you a $290 phone. Unless you're on T-Mobile, you're not going to find a cheaper Continuum-enabled phone anywhere. With full factory support anyway.
    I think they meant more just donate $10 just to support without getting the phone.
    04-01-2017 07:57 PM
  18. nate0's Avatar
    Ya anyone should be able to offer up a donation backing, but I'm not sure what the set increments are. Not everyone who cares enough to support this would be in a position to buy another phone.

    So even if they do not get 3900 individual units sold but still reach the dollar mark does that count? I've never supported anything through indiegogo.
    Last edited by Nate W; 04-01-2017 at 08:49 PM.
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    04-01-2017 08:38 PM
  19. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I think they meant more just donate $10 just to support without getting the phone.
    I can see that after the goal is met. Right now they need production costs funded and as altruistic as it seems, $10 a shot isn't going to make a dent.
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    04-01-2017 09:56 PM
  20. nate0's Avatar
    We say that now, but come 45 days from now when they are 100 dollars away from the goal those 10 people that thought that way, even if they wanted to support and just did not want to buy the phone could have helped. Every effort counts, if your effort is to support them.
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    04-01-2017 10:18 PM
  21. Awhispersecho's Avatar
    I agree with the idea as well. I have no interest in a 5" phone and just bought a 950XL, so there is no way I am going to pay 300 bucks for this phone. But, I would pay 25-50 bucks just to support them in the hopes that they can stick around and prove me wrong with a great 2nd device down the road.
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    04-01-2017 11:02 PM
  22. techiez's Avatar
    IMHO you have to look at it as investment. NOT an Investment in the future. An investment TO HAVE a future for consumer driven devices for this platform.

    Lumia? 650 was their swan song...
    HP? Business, all business all the time...
    Acer? They cried uncle...
    Alcatel? It's a me too retooling of a device with 2 other incarnations. Where's the passion? Idol 4S Windows is an experiment to see if it is worth their time, I'm sure...

    What's left?

    Surface Phone? IMHO, be prepared for sticker shock when that one finally comes around. Easily $1000 USD or more. Let's be realistic, how many units will that sell?

    The time to play hard to please is long past. It's not that hard to see if you follow the story and do the research. It's now or never. This is probably the last chance we have to get a truly dedicated, consumer facing effort going for this platform; perhaps for years to come, perhaps forever. Beggars can't be choosers, right? We shouldn't have to be beggars, but we are. I feel like Oliver Twist in the orphanage, hands outstretched and asking some mean man for another bowl of gruel.

    But along comes a man (Greg Murphy) that's risking a LOT on our behalf. Why? To try and accomplish something worthwhile and lasting. Don't disparage that. He's done more than any other fan of a mobile platform has done. That alone is worth celebrating.

    Schadenfreude, look it up. Literally: shameful joy. I see a LOT of "fans" with this attitude. It's pleasure derived from another person's misfortune. They are predicting failure for Cerulean, just like they did for NuAns Neo and Coship's efforts. They just want to be "right" and you almost can't blame them. But when does it become a self fulfilling prophecy? Sure the haters are gonna hate, but why do the "fans" have to hate so much too?

    C'mon Windows people, let's have faith. Let's show the world we won't die quietly. Let's show the Moment our support. Join me, make a pledge if you can and have a stake in trying to get this thing off the ground. Even Superman had to learn how to walk before he could fly... Be a sponsor and be an advocate. It's so much easier to tear things down than it is to build them up. Don't take the easy way out.

    #ThisIsOurMoment #ColorMeCerulean
    I think the fans want nothing less than a first party. what whartonbrooks is doing is commendable but what if MS just pulls the plug of W10m 6months down the line, we dont see a commitment from MS that they wont for now.
    04-01-2017 11:29 PM
  23. nate0's Avatar
    I think the fans want nothing less than a first party. what whartonbrooks is doing is commendable but what if MS just pulls the plug of W10m 6months down the line, we dont see a commitment from MS that they wont for now.
    The world is filled with what if's. But don't let it control you :)
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    04-01-2017 11:40 PM
  24. anthonyng's Avatar
    I suggested small donations cause I think they'll need all the help they can get
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    04-02-2017 03:42 AM
  25. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I agree with the idea as well. I have no interest in a 5" phone and just bought a 950XL, so there is no way I am going to pay 300 bucks for this phone. But, I would pay 25-50 bucks just to support them in the hopes that they can stick around and prove me wrong with a great 2nd device down the road.
    It's not the phone you are buying for $300 (really $290 right now as there are many of those slots left).

    What you are buying into is the chance for WB to still be around to offer that second device.

    Consider it an altruistic sacrifice, then. Everybody that says no to this decreases the chances that Cerulean will release the Moment in August and therefore live on to rise to that second offering.

    All it takes for this platform to die is for the "fans" to stubbornly sit on their wallets and do nothing.

    I am on the fence about incremental donations. Fortunately, it isn't my decision. Unfortunately, too many are thinking with a spreadsheet in hand and are missing the larger picture here...

    Invest $300 in HAVING a future.
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    04-02-2017 06:02 AM
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