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  1. atlan1504's Avatar
    I may have missed something, but what happened to WhartonBrooks Windows Phone? Apparently they didn't like what phones they got? At least it's been pretty quiet. Does anyone have any info?
    02-18-2017 06:42 PM
  2. Guytronic's Avatar
    02-18-2017 08:44 PM
  3. RumoredNow's Avatar
    So... a couple of weeks ago the engineering samples were shipped out from China.

    Here's my guess on what happens.
    • The phones have to get recieved
    • The phones have to get tested with various SIMS for the target carriers in the target markets
    • The phones have to pass the engineering test by functioning with the correct SIMS inserted
    • The phones pass
    • The phones then have to get certified to operate within the target countries by the appropriate government agencies
    • After the certification comes a production run. I mean, why would you pay for 10s of thousands of phones until you know you can offer them for sale in your target markets?


    This isn't going to be as fast as some people assume it will be...

    You may still #ColorMeCerulean
    02-18-2017 09:58 PM
  4. Tim-ANC's Avatar
    Logical.

    I believe US FCC certifications are public record. Something to watch for.
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    02-19-2017 12:12 AM
  5. atlan1504's Avatar
    That certainly makes sense.
    Mr Murphy (CEO) made it sound easier (maybe just to my ears; I am no nativer speaker). On Jan 19 he said, and I am paraphrasing: the phones should be there within 10 days and we'll do a test to see if US carriers' SIMs work. If all goes well, we'll tell the full story.

    Assuming the shipping went well, they have the phones for almost 20 days now. As we didnt hear anything, I thought that would put them past the all-goes-well milestone, i.e not all went well.

    With your explanation, I guess we'll have to wait longer.
    Last edited by atlan1504; 02-19-2017 at 12:41 PM.
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    02-19-2017 03:46 AM
  6. atlan1504's Avatar
    Bloody autocorrect... it should read
    i.e. not all went well
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    02-19-2017 03:51 AM
  7. Tim-ANC's Avatar
    Bloody autocorrect... it should read
    i.e. not all went well
    Atlan, Welcome to the forum. You can edit your own posts to fix text.
    02-19-2017 05:10 AM
  8. atlan1504's Avatar
    Thx, I used the Win 10 UWP app on my mobile. Seems I cannot edit there.
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    02-19-2017 12:32 PM
  9. Ariel Takom's Avatar
    Well, as a W10M fan, patience is a virtue. Remember our sacred mantra: soon™ and 'in the right time'™

    Jokes aside, testing will be very hard for Whartonbrooks, I presume, especially since this company is a recent startup and is run by very few people relative to other phone companies i.e. Apple, Samsung, HTC, etc.

    Let's just wait 6 more years and hope for the best, as we always do.
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    02-19-2017 10:09 PM
  10. HM84's Avatar
    Well, as a W10M fan, patience is a virtue. Remember our sacred mantra: soon™ and 'in the right time'™

    Jokes aside, testing will be very hard for Whartonbrooks, I presume, especially since this company is a recent startup and is run by very few people relative to other phone companies i.e. Apple, Samsung, HTC, etc.

    Let's just wait 6 more years and hope for the best, as we always do.
    That's a long time even for the WP/WM faithful. NuAns, the Japanese manufacturer of the Neo W10M phone, have reportedly switched to Android for their next project because there wasn't enough demand for their existing device. OP is probably concerned that this could be the next McLaren, or... Duke Nukem Forever. (shudders)
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    02-20-2017 12:24 AM
  11. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    That's a long time even for the WP/WM faithful. NuAns, the Japanese manufacturer of the Neo W10M phone, have reportedly switched to Android for their next project because there wasn't enough demand for their existing device. OP is probably concerned that this could be the next McLaren, or... Duke Nukem Forever. (shudders)
    Duke Nukem Forever actually was released. And it was terrible. So being skeptical for WhartonBrooks is warranted, even their email sign up link is not found on their website. Who knows, WB really could be the Duke Nukem Forever of the phone world. Or, it could be an absolute sensation and save Windows phone. Nobody really knows. All we can do now is wait and wonder.
    02-20-2017 02:32 AM
  12. anthonyng's Avatar
    would be nice for a taste of information :) Especially since last month, they seemed to want to try to improve their communication.
    @Ryujingt3 the sign up is right on the main page scroll down.
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    02-20-2017 10:39 AM
  13. Nate W's Avatar
    would be nice for a taste of information :) Especially since last month, they seemed to want to try to improve their communication.
    @Ryujingt3 the sign up is right on the main page scroll down.
    I signed up back in August. Any reason that we should register again on the cerulean site? Shouldn't make a difference being a sub-site with same domain and that they just moved the sign up to that site
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    02-20-2017 11:38 AM
  14. anthonyng's Avatar
    @Nate W no idea, they should have the emails already I would think.

    I know they say Microsoft keeps telling them not to say too much, but is it too much to know if it's regulatory process or simply bad news?

    oh well :)
    Last edited by anthonyng; 02-20-2017 at 12:22 PM.
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    02-20-2017 11:57 AM
  15. RumoredNow's Avatar
    @nate-w no idea
    FYI, if you want to use the new mentions feature... Type the member name exactly including spaces and the forum will auto-magically make the link and notification.

    @mistagreg has stated recently that they have been advised to remain more low key until they have a confirmed release... That advice seemingly came before they switched up the plan to include CDMA/LTE 13 and move from US to a 5 country target (US/Canada/Mexico/Brazil/Bolivia).
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    02-20-2017 12:15 PM
  16. anthonyng's Avatar
    thanks @rumourednow :)

    edit: doh you americans @RumoredNow ;)
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    02-20-2017 12:24 PM
  17. Ariel Takom's Avatar
    That's a long time even for the WP/WM faithful. NuAns, the Japanese manufacturer of the Neo W10M phone, have reportedly switched to Android for their next project because there wasn't enough demand for their existing device. OP is probably concerned that this could be the next McLaren, or... Duke Nukem Forever. (shudders)
    The 6 years I was referring to is actually another joke, in case you don't realize it by now :)

    FYI, WP/WM faithful has been waiting for WP/WM to become the next big thing since it's inception 6/7 years ago, and around the same time frame, has been waiting for this fabled "dream-device" dubbed the Surface Phone. So, the 6 years of waiting that I mentioned is indirectly making fun of the community, myself included, for being one of those with the 'wait for it. It'll get better' mindset, which is neither right or wrong. :)
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    02-20-2017 03:50 PM
  18. Nate W's Avatar
    The 6 years I was referring to is actually another joke, in case you don't realize it by now :)

    FYI, WP/WM faithful has been waiting for WP/WM to become the next big thing since it's inception 6/7 years ago, and around the same time frame, has been waiting for this fabled "dream-device" dubbed the Surface Phone. So, the 6 years of waiting that I mentioned is indirectly making fun of the community, myself included, for being one of those with the 'wait for it. It'll get better' mindset, which is neither right or wrong. :)
    Maybe you should have said 60. 6 maybe looks too realistic lol
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    02-20-2017 06:27 PM
  19. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    would be nice for a taste of information :) Especially since last month, they seemed to want to try to improve their communication.
    @Ryujingt3 the sign up is right on the main page scroll down.
    I was referring to the 'Get on the List' button on the main page. My mistake, I wasn't too clear. Seems to work now though.
    02-22-2017 08:36 AM
  20. Ariel Takom's Avatar
    Maybe you should have said 60. 6 maybe looks too realistic lol
    Sarcasm at it's finest, I suppose ;)
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    02-22-2017 10:21 AM
  21. anthonyng's Avatar
    I was referring to the 'Get on the List' button on the main page. My mistake, I wasn't too clear. Seems to work now though.
    If anything, it's at least consistent in that their website updates are just as slow as phone information updates? lol
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    02-22-2017 12:20 PM
  22. atlan1504's Avatar
    It's by the way interesting that they are working on a phone that supposedly will run Windows 10 Mobile where most people (including me) seem to think that Windows 10 on ARM is the next big thing.
    I do not get Microsoft's strategy here (if that is the strategy). Let's assume Win10 on ARM indeed is the next big thing that'll kinda replace Win10 Mobile, why would they let manufactures like HP, Alcatel and WhartonBrooks put effort into making Windows 10 Mobile phones?
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    02-22-2017 02:30 PM
  23. Nate W's Avatar
    It's by the way interesting that they are working on a phone that supposedly will run Windows 10 Mobile where most people (including me) seem to think that Windows 10 on ARM is the next big thing.
    I do not get Microsoft's strategy here (if that is the strategy). Let's assume Win10 on ARM indeed is the next big thing that'll kinda replace Win10 Mobile, why would they let manufactures like HP, Alcatel and WhartonBrooks put effort into making Windows 10 Mobile phones?
    Since we are purely speculating (me included) that is why these other OEMs continued investing in hw released with W10M. There is something we obviously do not know....I wish I knew, then again I hope it is not the case that these OEMs do not know either...that would be hard on them if Microsoft laid one in their lap come end of 2017 into 2018.
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    02-22-2017 04:19 PM
  24. anthonyng's Avatar
    I don't want windows 10 on arm for my parents. I really hope windows 10 mobile keeps coming out.
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    02-22-2017 04:24 PM
  25. Nate W's Avatar
    I don't want windows 10 on arm for my parents. I really hope windows 10 mobile keeps coming out.
    I honestly think it will be around for a while, just maybe only for devices with a 6" or smaller screen. Even though the hw requirements go beyond that...
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    02-22-2017 05:09 PM
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