09-05-2017 01:51 PM
44 12
tools
  1. Vivio vrvly's Avatar
    1. First, I could take even 1500€/$ price, if there was some sort of store for hw in my country, it isn't right now.
    If device is to be supported for at least 3 years, even such price is right. Rather pricy great device, than cheap garbage.
    2. If it won't be device like AR glasses(probably won't), I wish it is able to use AR a lot, be it work or fun. It definitely got great potential as social feature, well fast network would be needed.
    3. Off grid AI to ensure safe running of apps is a must, probably not so needed for phone like device, but definitely important part of glasses, as you wont be able to walk or ride without being sure nothing will block your vision.
    4. Next important thing is for it to have pen and detection of it when trying to write memo/note on off-screen,...
    5. Triple cameras for each color(R,G,B) for big resolution and great low light, also depth sensing,..
    6. Always on AI
    7. gears like watch, band, 360 camera, AR mount on head for that device, smart shirts,pants,scales,everything..
    8. 3D vector screen
    9. Great battery whats important for a lot of computing power
    10. Being able to be charged or to charge connected devices over few meters
    11. Home devices(black,white tech), car, bicycle, skateboard and being able to control them
    12. Being able to control everything using Cortana - from devices to payments and suggestions using AR.
    I will just stop here, there is just no end to this imaginary surface.
    08-25-2017 05:04 AM
  2. Shahim Mohammed's Avatar
    Well, this got me thinking, and this is what I came up with:
    (Pardon the crappy renders, I did it in Powerpoint. Maybe somebody here could do a better render)

    picture1.jpg
    picture2.jpg
    picture3.jpg
    picture4.jpg

    Features:
    • Foldable design (obviously)
    • Single High Quality camera on one side. To switch from normal to selfie mode, you just switch to the screen on the back.
    • Windows 10 on ARM. Behaves like a phone with switchable screens when folded. Becomes a full PC when opened
    • Automatically switch screens based on how you are holding the phone (Microsoft has a patent for this : Link)
    • Small kickstand when unfolded, to use in desktop mode
    Andreasjva, Jakoh and v_emman like this.
    08-25-2017 09:02 AM
  3. Meteorhead's Avatar
    English source found here.
    08-25-2017 09:03 AM
  4. Gregorius Magnus's Avatar
    If running win10S for the new Surface phone will be wasted Windows on Arm effort.
    My wish on surface phone must be high end and on par with the latest phone design.
    Most importantly have a full windows when continuum, meaning it really can replace you pc, can install exe file.
    There can be a cheaper win10S version, but full win10 is a must.
    And sure dual sim, dual camera, finger print reader, iris scanner...etc.
    So there can be some accessories like hp lapdock or like a bigger screen 12" 10" which can attach to the phone olin order to access full wondows.
    When there only a phone then will be a CShell optimized for touch for a normal phone did.
    Unless Centennial Bridge is to be enhanced in such a way that it will be able to run Win32 apps in a container on-the-fly somehow due to this.
    08-25-2017 09:09 AM
  5. Gregory Newman's Avatar
    Since Developers do not like to port apps to Windows phones but do put new apps in the Windows PC 10 store. The "Surface" Smart phone must be able to run any apps including the new UWP apps and the win 32 Centennial converted desktop PC Programs that are in the Windows 10 PC store. this makes the Surface smart phone have thousands of apps and PC programs available for the owner to use when it comes to the market place. As new apps are added to the Windows 10 PC store the "Surface" Smart phone gets a new app. the Surface smart phones must have a 6 inch screen or be a 7/8 inch single or dual screen Mini tablet
    08-25-2017 09:09 AM
  6. MikeB0514's Avatar
    As much as I would love to remain in the windows ecosystem I don't know if a surface phone makes much sense anymore. I think MS lost as a mobile maker. I mean really, they've burned people over and over again who will trust them again other than a few dedicated souls? So I think the best thing MS can do is take their apps, and make them available across the platforms. Edge included, maps etc. That makes the most sense.

    As far as interesting concepts, the most interesting concept was the foldable phone. Except Samsung is working on it too so it's not so unique.
    Yes, after the last "reboot", Windows on Phone is dead. Microsoft's new approach seems to be focusing around cellular PCs running full Windows. I expect the Surface Mobile (not Phone) to be a PC foremost, with cellular capabilities (data, text, voice) and not a phone-sized device. Continuum 2.0 will provide the productivity needs of the desktop, a fold-able screen will help with portability - but don't expect anything smaller than 6-7". Only after critical mass of adoption of these next gen devices (along with 3rd-party UWA's), will MS consider phones again.
    08-25-2017 09:22 AM
  7. FlyLikeAnEagle's Avatar
    For me it should have an excellent stylus, so that it can be used similarly to the Surface Pro.
    With all the great note taking features which have been added to OneNote, it would be very useful to have a small, pocketable device which can be used for note-taking.
    v_emman likes this.
    08-25-2017 09:22 AM
  8. Lepoete's Avatar
    -Foldable or clip-on keyboard, 6-7 inch.
    -Windows on ARM (not Windows 10S or possibility to unlock to real WoA to run real non-store apps).
    -Or one day if Intel gets there to have it on Intel based.

    The most important part for me is to possibly replace a computer, so running real Win32 non-store apps when on Continuum mode is primordial. Anything less than that wouldn't be a "Surface" device but just another Lumia.
    08-25-2017 09:34 AM
  9. tk825's Avatar
    Make a dummy laptop shell with an opening where the track pad is. Give the phone pogo pins like the surface/keyboard. The phone drops into the laptop she'll and becomes the trackpad like in continuum. Make it flush with laptop. Push a button to pop it back out.

    Must have full windows 10s experience through continuum on dummy shell. True laptop replacement.

    Keep up with other companies and minimal bezels.
    08-25-2017 10:26 AM
  10. Vivien R's Avatar
    Even if the hardware is amazing lacking of apps is worthless....
    I really loved my 930, but without apps was a pain. Sure, I can go to browser, but many sites still crappy used with touch, apps are still important. Now I'm on a Samsung G7 Edge, and while the start was rough, now things bit sunnier, because at least I have access the apps I used, or need when I travel.

    From device side?
    Pen input for sure! And its should be well recognized all over the screen like in good old Pocket Pc days...
    Great Camera
    Water proofing
    Great Audio - like Dolby in 930 (not that crap what Samsung have)
    Not more than 6"
    No need for 4k screen resolution
    Least 8h on screen time
    No need for audio jack if its helps for water proofing
    Support for 3rd party wearables
    08-25-2017 11:01 AM
  11. Gregory Newman's Avatar
    Since Developers do not like to port apps to Windows phones but do put new apps in the Windows PC 10 store. The "Surface" Smart phone must be able to run any apps including the new UWP apps and the
    win 32 Centennial converted desktop PC Programs that are in the Windows 10 PC store. this makes the
    Surface smart phone have thousands of apps and PC programs available for the owner to use when it comes to the market place. As new apps are added to the Windows 10 PC store the "Surface" Smart
    phone gets a new app. the Surface smart phones must have a 6 inch screen or be a 7/8 inch single or dual screen Mini tablet
    08-25-2017 11:19 AM
  12. SelvaBalaji77's Avatar
    It would be good, if we get this device with Windows 10 S in it.
    08-25-2017 01:50 PM
  13. Andreasjva's Avatar
    A few cool fun features might be...

    A built-in projection keyboard

    Laser projector/pointer where you can project text messages, etc. Maybe photos as well, but text would be great

    Then the must haves...

    A massive battery

    Large ultra hi res screen

    Dual camera's need to be the best of the best

    Obviously a full OS

    Obviously the fastest processor available

    Lots of base ram

    minimum 64gb

    expansion sd card slot(s)

    audio jack

    usb lightening, or at least something as good or better. We're all over the old stuff

    wireless charging

    camera buttons

    mini display port

    kickstand

    quality sound

    waterproof up to several feet

    hi durability

    no edge glass

    designed for a good durable case (not like the s7 edge)

    And finally, a cappuccino maker...
    Jakoh likes this.
    08-25-2017 05:08 PM
  14. Jakoh's Avatar
    I think MS lost as a mobile maker.

    As far as interesting concepts, the most interesting concept was the foldable phone. Except Samsung is working on it too so it's not so unique.
    Thanks everyone for responding.

    Definition of Mobile is going to change. As More power comes, single app running devices wont rule forever. Split screen on Android is kinda worthless right now. There is room for professionals to BYOD and not have to carry a laptop. This is the niche MS should target right now and the hope it becomes "COOL"
    08-25-2017 06:45 PM
  15. Jakoh's Avatar
    I like the idea of the wireless headsets, would be awesome if they can be inserted in the "phone" body and recharged when not in use.
    I think this can be a standout feature.
    08-25-2017 06:59 PM
  16. Galljinocka's Avatar
    It would be nice to have at least two variants - consumer (cheapest version) and business edition.
    In general, I'm definitely in love with this concept of the SP
    08-25-2017 11:43 PM
  17. reomw's Avatar
    An Azure connected device!
    Can do Mixed Reality.
    Can run Xbox games on the cloud. Controller support.
    Two variant, one with win32 support via Continuum, other with UWP support only.
    Two variant, one with Snapdragon 8xx and the other with 6xx
    Dual cameras.
    Foldable - non foldable, does not matter! It should fit in the pocket. 4000 mah 🔋.
    2k or 1080p screen.
    Face recognition;")
    This guy gets it (Azure, Xbox)!
    08-28-2017 07:57 AM
  18. reomw's Avatar
    It would be good, if we get this device with Windows 10 S in it.
    So basically normal Windows with just a registry flag set? Ok.
    08-30-2017 04:16 AM
  19. Venkatprasad's Avatar
    Microsoft surface phone must be following features
    1. Snapdragons 835 processor top end model, 660 processor for mass sale, price $300 to $900,
    2. Screen size 6" folding, 9" UN folding,
    3 4K screen unbreakable display with 3D touch,
    4. Dolby atmos. Front facing speaker
    5 carl Zeiss lens with 3D support, front carl Zeiss wide angle lens, rear dual carl Zeiss wide angle lens,
    6. Three model 4GB RAM/ 128GB SSD, 6GB RAM/256GB SSD, 8GB RAM/ 512GB SSD
    7. Battery 5000 mAh
    8. Mobile slim less than 4.5mm
    9. AR and VR support
    10. Bluetooth V.5, WI-FI AC, LTE world wide
    11. For Desktop mode give built in kick stand,
    12 No ports for earphone jack, no type C charging port,
    give Bluetooth headphones, high speed wireless charging Qi 5,
    13 WIFI direct for High speed wireless file transfer from mobile to pc,
    14 Give default skype apps for dialling voice and video calls and message MMS and EMS, Remove dialler and message apps,
    15 Xbox games support from cloud with built in receiver for wireless controller support,
    16 windows 10 pro pc version with support for win32 apps, 64 bit, UMP,
    17 photovoltaic charging support, help for heavy draining apps,
    18 support for 4G, 5G, Advance volte,
    19 SD card support,
    20 fingerprint scanner incorporated inside the screen,
    21 Iris scanner,
    22 eSIM two or three eSIM,
    23 Stylus storing slot in the mobile with charging support,
    24 water Resistance, dust Resistance,
    25 Radiation guard,
    09-05-2017 01:51 PM
44 12

Similar Threads

  1. Can I use glue to hold my Lumia 535 screen in place?
    By Windows Central Question in forum Ask a Question
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 08-21-2017, 03:55 PM
  2. OneNote's August update is here with a load of new features to try
    By WindowsCentral.com in forum Windows Central News Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-17-2017, 11:20 AM
  3. Command hordes of vicious rat-men in Total War Warhammer II
    By WindowsCentral.com in forum Windows Central News Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-17-2017, 10:10 AM
  4. The 3D features of Story Remix won't be launching with the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update
    By WindowsCentral.com in forum Windows Central News Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-17-2017, 08:30 AM
  5. Surface Pro 3 pen issues.
    By L0n3N1nja in forum Ask a Question
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-17-2017, 01:48 AM
LINK TO POST COPIED TO CLIPBOARD