1. iop777's Avatar
    Hey guys, does anyone know if the Windows 10 preview will work on a Surface Pro 3? I thought I read on zdnet that it will only run on x86 based computers but I'm wondering if there's a work around for that if its true.
    09-30-2014 02:34 PM
  2. StandbyMoho's Avatar
    The surface pro 3 does run x86. I guess you wanted to ask if it would run on a surfs rt. Microsoft said today when asked if it would tune in a surface rt that all the actual apps would run in windows 10. What does it mean?????
    09-30-2014 02:43 PM
  3. iop777's Avatar
    The surface pro 3 does run x86. I guess you wanted to ask if it would run on a surfs rt. Microsoft said today when asked if it would tune in a surface rt that all the actual apps would run in windows 10. What does it mean?????
    No I was asking about the Surface Pro 3, I have one and I just checked the info and it says it runs x64.
    09-30-2014 02:46 PM
  4. Jan Tomsic's Avatar
    There is a way to access BIOS (UEFI actually) and to boot from USB drive.
    SP3 is a normal x86 based PC, just in a different form (with no keyboard and touchscreen), I see no reason why they'd lock the bios or boot loader on such an expensive device meant for IT professionals (among others). And if you can boot from USB, you can most probably install any OS you want (Ubuntu for example).

    However, I'd suggest to install the TH into a virtual machine, because it's a preview, not eve beta, which means it WILL BE full of bugs and not stable for day to day use.

    edit: x64 is an extension of x86. x64 based PC is still a x86 based PC.
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    09-30-2014 03:02 PM
  5. StandbyMoho's Avatar
    The surface pro 3 has an x64 processor, so it can run 32 bits and 64 bits applications
    An x86 processor can only run 32 bits applications
    The x86 I is how Intel processors are call 186 286 386 486 Pentium (586).... and its commonly use to name all Intel and AMD processors that are different from ARM processors.
    Windows 10 preview will only be able at the beginning for x86 processors (x86 and x64 if you want) but not for ARM processors (windows rt and windows phone). But the final release will be able for all
    09-30-2014 03:02 PM
  6. YanivC's Avatar
    Jan, exactly right. Just throw that sucker onto a VDI if you have access to it because Im sure it will be buggy as hell. You might have a spare machine lying around so thats a solution too, but we already decided we're downloading it tomorrow and spinning up about 10 VDI's for people to test (play lol) with.
    09-30-2014 03:20 PM
  7. awilliams1701's Avatar
    All you need to know is that x64 and x86 are both intel systems (its more complicated then that, but not important for this discussion) and this will run on intel systems.

    No I was asking about the Surface Pro 3, I have one and I just checked the info and it says it runs x64.
    09-30-2014 03:21 PM
  8. iop777's Avatar
    Thanks everyone, just installed VM Virtual Box to test it out tomorrow. I've never dual booted before but I heard VM is a good program to use.
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    09-30-2014 04:22 PM
  9. Jan Tomsic's Avatar
    I usually use VMware player or workstation (I got it for free from my uni), but Virtual Box should be just as good.
    10-01-2014 02:11 AM
  10. fis_s's Avatar
    I don't think there's any problem.
    however, the buggy preview version could drive you crazy if you use it as the main os.
    10-01-2014 02:23 AM
  11. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    No I was asking about the Surface Pro 3, I have one and I just checked the info and it says it runs x64.
    That's just an extension of the x86 chipset found in most computers.
    Yes, Technical Preview will work on an SP3.
    10-01-2014 02:38 AM
  12. awilliams1701's Avatar
    If anyone is actually curious.
    The x86 is shorthand for 8086 (the original intel processor) and 80286. Many people just called the 80286 the 286. By the 386 I don't think anyone used the 80 prefix anymore. Intel tried (and failed) to trademark the number 86 and as such the 586 was called the pentium instead. All processors based on Intel technology (including AMD) just call it x86. This was all fine and good until AMD said that 32 bits wasn't good enough anymore. AMD invented a 64 bit mode of the x86. They call it AMD x86-64. Intel later invented their own, but it was too late people already used AMD's implementation and didn't want to use Intel's. So intel dropped it and AMD x86-64 became the standard. Later on people just started calling it x64.
    So x86 is older 32 bit processors derived from the 8086 and x64 is short for x86-64 based on AMD technology.
    koolnaija likes this.
    10-10-2014 02:24 PM
  13. koolnaija's Avatar
    If anyone is actually curious.
    The x86 is shorthand for 8086 (the original intel processor) and 80286. Many people just called the 80286 the 286. By the 386 I don't think anyone used the 80 prefix anymore. Intel tried (and failed) to trademark the number 86 and as such the 586 was called the pentium instead. All processors based on Intel technology (including AMD) just call it x86. This was all fine and good until AMD said that 32 bits wasn't good enough anymore. AMD invented a 64 bit mode of the x86. They call it AMD x86-64. Intel later invented their own, but it was too late people already used AMD's implementation and didn't want to use Intel's. So intel dropped it and AMD x86-64 became the standard. Later on people just started calling it x64.
    So x86 is older 32 bit processors derived from the 8086 and x64 is short for x86-64 based on AMD technology.

    Learn something new everyday
    10-10-2014 07:01 PM

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