10-20-2015 12:13 AM
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  1. mjrtoo's Avatar
    I've been through the 2 pages of posts but so far I've not seen mention of the easiest, and to me safest, way of playing with this new toy.
    Just use Windows to make a VHD on any of your HDD where you have room and mount the .iso ( I use ImDisk) and install to the VHD. Use EasyBCD to select it as a boot option and boot to it. Windows Eight forum has a complete tutorial on how to do this.

    So far in my playing I've installed the old Office97 plus developed Access apps with no problems on the vhd. Although it doesn't work completely and only plays QAM available TV, Windows Media Center is usable, just no EPG downloads. I'm far from an expert but I've been around the block a couple of times and I like where Windows 10 is headed.
    If you just want to check it out, I'd do a hyper-v VM.
    10-08-2014 04:04 PM
  2. awilliams1701's Avatar
    I don't agree I was an expert on windows even in high school. I knew more about it than any of the teachers teaching it or any other computing class for that matter. I took two programming classes and was so bored at how slow they were that I helped out other in the class as well as making tetris in turbo pascal in ascii. A big part of getting to this level of skill of having spare computers to screw with available. And yes I did fry a couple of computers in middle school.

    the problem is, have you read a lot of the questions, 16 year olds ruining their machines cause they have no clue what they are doing. People complaining a tech preview of an OS that won't be out for at least a year has issues. It's pretty bad. Just cause you can use instagram and install office for grandma doesn't qualify you as an EXPERT. if you aren't out of High School, chances are you don't have enough experience to be messing with it. (yes chances are, there are exceptions, and they know what dual boot means, or can install VMware player)
    harshraj likes this.
    10-08-2014 04:45 PM
  3. Funky Cricket's Avatar
    as I said, exceptions. You should look in the forums at some of the posts. People are acting like this is a free version of windows and ready for prime time, or asking "now that windows 10 is out for the PC, when will I get it on my Lumia X20". The biggest issue I see is a general lack of common sense and basic understanding of the situation with a small but vocal minority of users that have no business messing with it. If you just clicked "I agree" with out reading the disclaimer I suppose you get what you get.
    10-09-2014 10:42 AM
  4. ronaldme's Avatar
    Did you read this before install it?

    Download and install the preview only if you

    1. Want to try out software that’s still in development and like sharing your opinion about it.
    2. Don’t mind lots of updates or a UI design that might change significantly over time.
    3. Really know your way around a PC and feel comfortable troubleshooting problems, backing up data, formatting a hard drive, installing an operating system from scratch, or restoring your old one if necessary.
    4. Know what an ISO file is and how to use it.
    5. Aren't installing it on your everyday computer.


    We're not kidding about the expert thing. So if you think BIOS is a new plant-based fuel, Tech Preview may not be right for you.

    Things to keep in mind

    Unexpected PC crashes could damage or even delete your files, so you should back up everything. Some printers and other hardware might not work, and some software might not install or work correctly, including antivirus or security programs. You might also have trouble connecting to home or corporate networks.

    Also, if your PC runs into problems, Microsoft will likely examine your system files. If the privacy of your system files is a concern, consider using a different PC. For more info, read our privacy statement.

    If you use a mouse and keyboard

    Your apps and devices should work as expected, though of course there will be exceptions. We’d love to know what you think about how the new Windows works with mouse and keyboard and whether it provides the best of new and familiar functionality for Windows and apps.

    If you have a touch PC

    Technical Preview works with touch, but some things will be rough and unfinished. More touch-friendly improvements are on the way. In the meantime, let us know what it’s like to interact with Windows and apps in the preview.

    If you want to go back to your previous operating system

    You'll need to reinstall your version of Windows from the recovery or installation media that came with your PC (typically DVD media).
    Before you install Windows Technical Preview - Microsoft Windows
    hcrick, xandros9, Muessig and 2 others like this.
    10-10-2014 02:45 PM
  5. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    The whiners don't care and/or give a heck.
    Thanks for pasting this though.
    palmujukka and Muessig like this.
    10-10-2014 03:14 PM
  6. ReddieTheModernFuturist's Avatar
    Kick them out or something! Make them understand this fully! otherwise this subforum will plunge into utter darkness where there is not enough people helping out with feedback and ideas for windows 10 along with concepts for Microsoft and the windows team.
    10-10-2014 04:25 PM
  7. someone2639's Avatar
    I never thought people would be that stupid. But when dev preview comes out for phone, I think everyone will understand.
    10-10-2014 04:57 PM
  8. koolnaija's Avatar
    Since it say "Technical Preview". Since i am very technical does that give me a pass if i complain ?
    10-10-2014 05:21 PM
  9. xandros9's Avatar
    Since it say "Technical Preview". Since i am very technical does that give me a pass if i complain ?
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    10-10-2014 07:45 PM
  10. antiochian2010's Avatar
    All a CYA move; if they didn't want that many installations, they would have made this a closed preview or release.
    10-12-2014 04:56 PM
  11. mjrtoo's Avatar
    All a CYA move; if they didn't want that many installations, they would have made this a closed preview or release.
    Ask for a company to be more open and they do, people still complain it's some type of scam.
    10-14-2014 08:32 AM
  12. antiochian2010's Avatar
    Ask for a company to be more open and they do, people still complain it's some type of scam.
    Amen!
    10-14-2014 11:12 AM
  13. badr0b0t's Avatar
    Anyone can try and install Win 10 with only 2 minimum requirements.

    1. You know how to do back-ups (hint: save all your data on external hard drive)
    2. You know how to restore back to original OS (hint: will only take 15 to 30mins with all your programs and drivers installed with image restoration)

    Tutorials on how to install Win 10 are all over the internet. Along the way, if MS screwed up and destroyed Win 10, image backup can fix that back in 15mins.

    So, if you don't know how to do the above 2 minumum requirements, yeah, stay away from Win 10.

    In my case I have Win 10 installed on a separate SSD. So, bring it on!

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    Cheers!
    Last edited by badr0b0t; 10-16-2014 at 11:39 AM.
    10-16-2014 11:24 AM
  14. ZackTheNever's Avatar
    Im 16 and not a PC Expert but I can say I know about everything from the control panel to the bitmap loader. However, I agree... Im tired of hearing people whining about that crud.

    Im pushing Windows 10 to my everyday use, seeing what it Cando and so far so good my friend.
    Ed Boland and xandros9 like this.
    10-23-2014 01:04 PM
  15. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Yea, No NOOB is going to listen to warnings anyway. This stinks that MS allowed it for everyone at this point. For the most part it's stable but, it's got some huge bugs under it, that some will run into and others will not (depends on how you use it).

    Why does it stink ? Because no one says anything when it's good but, if people run into a problem, they will complain endlessly, and already Windows 10 has a bad rep...

    It's fairly stable for me, Yea, about 5-6 "Windows" applications (not native Windows 8 apps) do not run, or will just open and close. Opened mail (built in for Hotmail) and shrunk it down to be in a window, and a endless clicking noise started, only way to resolve it, was to reboot. A few crashes and random reboots but, it's ok.

    When Microsoft releases the official Preview with Media options (most stripped from this build), then most people should grab it as it will be a lot more stable and with solid feature set in place.

    I will give a warning too, If you have never installed Windows from scratch before (not a upgrade, from a new harddrive), if you want to install this, DO A VM. If you do a VM and something screws up, you can just delete the VM and start over.

    If you upgrade your computer and something MAJOR fails, you have no OS, no way to get into Windows....Do you know what to do ? Do you know ways to troubleshoot it ? If you don't have a clue (be honest), stick with a VM or wait...
    10-27-2014 07:59 PM
  16. Oliverspin's Avatar
    I don't know an incredible amount about computers and I installed it onto a VM. It's not that hard...
    10-28-2014 01:34 AM
  17. psh_vermont's Avatar
    I'm a computer enthusiast, not a tech professional/expert. I agree with your advice 100% for any computer you're using on a regular basis.

    But in my case I installed it on two spare Win8 tablets, partly out of curiousity and partly so I could participate in the user feedback. These are tablets that I use for testing apps and web sites, web-surfing, stuff like that, they don't have any critical materials on them.

    I've found the Tech Pvw to be surprisingly trouble-free and bug-free and easy to install and learn, and nothing has happened that has required any expertise beyond normal OS upgrade and software installs.

    But, yes, there's a risk -- so I'd underline your advice, except to add -- if you have a spare computer or tablet lying around that you're not using any more for critical day-to-day stuff, the Tech Pvw is really interesting and fun to mess with.
    11-01-2014 08:26 AM
  18. Laion's Avatar
    Wow, you are quite something. I'm sure you are one of those people who would burn their mouth, if it wasn't written on the coffee cup "hot". But I tell you, they do that to limit their liability. Microsoft also. I'm just a hobbyist and I haven't had any problems with Windows 10 or WP 8.1 DP. I am sure that Microsoft is as happy from my feedback as it is from yours. If they had wanted to limit the Windows 10 just to professionals, they would have done so and not published the download link on their main Windows 10 page. I hope I don't take too much of your precious time with my comment. Lol.
    11-01-2014 04:40 PM
  19. emiel1976's Avatar
    When Windows 8 preview came out, it was the same day on my laptop. In this case with Windows 10 it is not, not because I don't want to try it but because my main pc is not connected yet. I am working in my house to get a new floor and other changes. There for is my laptop now my main system to go to and that is why I didn't tried Windows 10 yet.
    I don't upgrade other people there pc's with Windows 10 because it isn't ready yet and after the release it will stop working and than can I fix everything again.
    Windows 10 is now for testing and as you want to now what is new or how it works, use a second system that you don't use or watch YouTube and websites that write over it. There is enough info about and on YouTube people place new video's each time as there is something new.
    01-04-2015 09:21 AM
  20. idokamaroq's Avatar
    I haven't seen this said yet in this thread, but I could be wrong...
    If only OS experts provided feedback on the OS, it could become a very expert oriented OS and the public consumer release could be a bit too confusing for the average Joe. Diversity is a wonderful thing, even in OS testing.
    colt375.dl.1 likes this.
    01-22-2015 02:56 AM
  21. Sa Wasim's Avatar
    this is technical preview running on my laptop now upgraded from win 8.1 pro then after the official release of win 10 will i get it ?
    01-23-2015 06:41 PM
  22. Wevenhuis's Avatar
    how do I reinstall windows 8.1 on my surface pro after Ii have installed windows 10 technical preview? Does it work with a recovery disk, and if so can I use an external drive, because the surface pro has no built in laserdiskdrive?
    01-28-2015 09:50 AM
  23. Sekyal's Avatar
    this is technical preview running on my laptop now upgraded from win 8.1 pro then after the official release of win 10 will i get it ?
    Yes since it works within Windows Update now.
    02-03-2015 10:09 AM
  24. Sekyal's Avatar
    how do I reinstall windows 8.1 on my surface pro after Ii have installed windows 10 technical preview? Does it work with a recovery disk, and if so can I use an external drive, because the surface pro has no built in laserdiskdrive?
    It is best to have a recovery disk to be safe, but Windows 10 preview provides an option to Roll Back when you re-start the PC. I assume it puts it back to how you had it before.
    Wevenhuis likes this.
    02-03-2015 10:10 AM
  25. John Walter1's Avatar
    Win 10 Technical Preview is all about giving feedback about how you want the new OS to feel and look, not just reporting some issues. This is the first time MS tries to involve users into the development and people are acting stupidly whining. I think we all should start acting more seriously about win 10, because it's what we all are about to use in the next few years. Peace!
    xandros9 and Poirots Progeny like this.
    02-06-2015 03:22 AM
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