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  1. tiziano27's Avatar
    There are many changes:

    *Tiles are smaller! The medium tile is 100x100 pixels in this preview, It was 120x120 pixels before.
    *The start menu can't be resized, but It can be maximized.
    *Tiles were always aligned top-left. Now tiles can be positioned without restrictions.
    *Scrolling was horizontal, now It's vertical.
    01-26-2015 07:30 AM
  2. dKp1977's Avatar
    Like most UI changes, this just needs some time to getting used to I guess. I do like that I can now pin my tiles any way I like. Definitely better than before. For the start menu itself vertical scrolling is indeed useful, but I had preferred horizontal scrolling for the start screen. Not being able anymore to select multiple tiles at once is annoying too, but we're far from having a final build here, so most of these aspects may change anyways.
    01-26-2015 07:35 AM
  3. tiziano27's Avatar
    I don't like it. Tiles are too small, it's hard to read the text and see the images on the tiles.
    I prefer the Start menu of the previous build that can be resized. My perfect start menu is wider with more space for tiles, giving me a panoramic view of useful information.
    I don't like the full screen layout either, the Windows 8 Start Screen was much better.
    I prefer horizontal scrolling for the tile section.
    I'm having difficulties positioning the tiles, I liked more the automatic top-left alignment.

    It seems I'm not happy at all with the new Start menu.
    01-26-2015 07:56 AM
  4. nallWhite's Avatar
    I would like to be able to dock the live tiles on the desktop like gadgets.
    01-26-2015 08:05 AM
  5. m1ke999's Avatar
    I think it would've been a good idea to allow the user to resize the start menu to whatever size they wish but I do like that you can maximize the menu to full screen and go back to the original start menu easily
    01-26-2015 08:07 AM
  6. loribinca's Avatar
    Dislike it - i'll be giving feedback - i put in a registry key to get the old start menu back - this current design sucks really bad on a WHQD display, the tiles are just way too small now full screen - I also don't like they removed the ability to go horizontal on the start menu. Hopefully they'll put that back

    Personally, how I have it now is just like how I used windows 8.1 but with the benefit of running apps in windows if I want - I spend 90% of my time on the desktop, but I like to have the larger live tiles to navigate my applications
    tiziano27 likes this.
    01-26-2015 12:04 PM
  7. PepperdotNet's Avatar
    My opinion: It's not finished yet.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    01-26-2015 01:01 PM
  8. KINGINI LABS's Avatar
    I dont like it. When on tablet mode, it should have the left side bar minimized. I dont mind with vertical scrolling instead of horizontal for the tiles.
    Joe920 likes this.
    01-26-2015 01:25 PM
  9. markyjns's Avatar
    The left side bar looks amateur and is out of place on the Start screen, either remove it so there's more tile space or better yet provide options so if anyone does like it then it can stay there.

    Vertical scrolling is weird and nit really how tablets 'should' work but getting used to it.
    Not having the desktop picture as the start screen background, just a colour block, is very jarring and destroys any attempt at unifying W7 & W8.1 into any kind of cohesive whole.
    The tiles are also quite small now compared to 8.1 and everything is harder to do, as in, buried in menus and so on, its not really a tablet fit OS at present.
    But this is what previews are for, feedback to MS they want to hear our views.
    01-26-2015 01:33 PM
  10. Kiba85's Avatar
    This is just the first version of the XAML Start Menu, it's too early to judge it. It will be better in the next builds.
    We already know that it will be resizable and more customizable (colors, transparency..).
    01-26-2015 01:58 PM
  11. markyjns's Avatar
    Agreed, my point really is that there are elements I'm not keen on like the original poster but that that's the whole point of this process, to test and to provide feedback and help where possible in refining things. The key is not to just moan, not that I'm saying anyone here specifically is but there are some in the forums that are, but to have input by proving constructive feedback
    01-26-2015 03:06 PM
  12. dKp1977's Avatar
    That's what's really exciting about Windows 10. It's the first time in Microsoft's history of operating systems that users can have a great impact on what the next product will be like. Even though MS had public betas before, there has never been such a tight connection between the company and its customers. Kudos, Microsoft!
    01-27-2015 01:45 AM
  13. sumton's Avatar
    i like it a lot but it need to be more flexible you should be able to resize it the way you want - pin anything on left side or create groups on left side or sort apps by install date or name or ... etc its not finished yet there is a lot of work need to be done
    01-27-2015 05:53 AM
  14. Andrew Elliott's Avatar
    Dislike it - i'll be giving feedback - i put in a registry key to get the old start menu back - this current design sucks really bad on a WHQD display, the tiles are just way too small now full screen - I also don't like they removed the ability to go horizontal on the start menu. Hopefully they'll put that back

    Personally, how I have it now is just like how I used windows 8.1 but with the benefit of running apps in windows if I want - I spend 90% of my time on the desktop, but I like to have the larger live tiles to navigate my applications
    anychance you can point me in that reg key direction. The 8.1 start was leagues better for touch...
    01-27-2015 06:05 AM
  15. Talderon's Avatar
    I HATED the way it was implemented in the earlier preview. This version actually works for me, really well!
    01-27-2015 06:20 AM
  16. etphoto's Avatar
    I'm indifferent. Maybe because I never used the previous build. If I had to answer, I'd say I like it the way it is now.
    01-27-2015 06:27 AM
  17. jac422's Avatar
    I think it's headed in the right direction but definitely still needs to incorporate some of the things they got right about the start screen in 8.1. I agree that having it re-sizable and different colors/transparency will help design but it looks like that is coming soon. My biggest issue with it now is the sidebar on the left. I think the font needs to be bigger and there needs to be a better way to access "all apps" (a bigger button and a swipe down gesture for tablets?). I also think it would help if the apps were (or could be) organized into folders so that I don't have to scroll through 12 different Adobe programs and 8 office programs to find what I'm looking for. As it is now, apps which aren't on the taskbar or start menu are difficult to find without using Cortana.
    01-27-2015 07:25 AM
  18. PepperdotNet's Avatar
    That's what's really exciting about Windows 10. It's the first time in Microsoft's history of operating systems that users can have a great impact on what the next product will be like. Even though MS had public betas before, there has never been such a tight connection between the company and its customers. Kudos, Microsoft!
    Yes. We have had betas before but it was always after the features were frozen. At that point all you are doing is finding and reporting bugs but no functionality would ever be changed. Now, we have the opportunity to actually see the design process in action, problem is some people can't handle that and are assuming that every build is exactly what the final release will be.
    01-27-2015 10:14 AM
  19. markyjns's Avatar
    . My biggest issue with it now is the sidebar on the left. I think the font needs to be bigger and there needs to be a better way to access "all apps" (a bigger button and a swipe down gesture for tablets?). I also think it would help if the apps were (or could be) organized into folders so that I don't have to scroll through 12 different Adobe programs and 8 office programs to find what I'm looking for. As it is now, apps which aren't on the taskbar or start menu are difficult to find without using Cortana.
    I think there needs to be an option as to whether the sidebar on the left is displayed or not, personally I'm not at all keen on it being there but others may like it.
    Good idea re folders, the way it's implemented on Windows Phone would be a really neat way of doing any folder options......time to feedback some more :)
    01-27-2015 12:37 PM
  20. berty6294's Avatar
    On desktop I think I'll like it. But I'm glad I can keep the start screen on my tablets!
    sahib lopez likes this.
    01-27-2015 02:11 PM
  21. davedsone's Avatar
    I lucking fove it
    01-27-2015 02:25 PM
  22. realwarder's Avatar
    Tiles are nice. BUT and it's a big BUT, Windows XP/Windows 7 users will NOT be happy:

    The All Apps menu as a list of about a million apps to scroll down doesn't work. Especially trying to find that folder for an installed app. It needs a better organization that matches Windows 7 for that. Perhaps even splitting Apps and Programs. Trying to find "Windows Accessories" just didn't work for me.

    Microsoft needs Win7 users to love the new menu and feel at home. Sure there's a button now in the task bar, but they will not feel at home.
    Sekyal likes this.
    01-27-2015 03:57 PM
  23. JamesDax's Avatar
    I like it.
    01-27-2015 03:59 PM
  24. bmetelsky's Avatar
    Tiles are nice. BUT and it's a big BUT, Windows XP/Windows 7 users will NOT be happy:

    The All Apps menu as a list of about a million apps to scroll down doesn't work. Especially trying to find that folder for an installed app. It needs a better organization that matches Windows 7 for that. Perhaps even splitting Apps and Programs. Trying to find "Windows Accessories" just didn't work for me.

    Microsoft needs Win7 users to love the new menu and feel at home. Sure there's a button now in the task bar, but they will not feel at home.

    I'm a Windows 7 user and think Windows 10 start menu is headed in the right direction.
    01-27-2015 11:26 PM
  25. loribinca's Avatar
    How to get Build 9879?s Start Menu in Windows 10 Build 9926? | Techdows

    just google for it - a few tech sites have the workaround posted.
    01-28-2015 03:28 PM
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