Real world tablet in W10, just worthless...

[Michael Alan Goff]

So what, I'm saying that I think they're ruining the experience, and you are saying you don't think so. And I don't believe it's a majority, it's the vocal minority causing the changes.

​What makes you think it's a minority?

 

[Jazmac]

How many whining post like these do we need in this forum? Dozens of post crying about the same thing over and over. smdh

Sounds like there should be some kind of NDA signed saying that if you agree to install and help make the product better, you can't whine like you tried to cash a bogus check.

 

[Nogitsune Micah]

Lmao. While I am not saying anything about his post i find it hilarious the hypocrisy people have about people whining...when they are whining about people whining lmao.
Sent From Micah's Lumia 1520

 

[Dhruvansh Soni]

They should provide the option to revert back to the imo much prettier 8.1 start screen, and for Windows 7 users who didn't like it just keep the normal one in win 10. I personally never liked the start menu, and the start screen is my favourite. Hope they include that option.

 

[Wevenhuis]

Lmao. While I am not saying anything about his post i find it hilarious the hypocrisy people have about people whining...when they are whining about people whining lmao.
Sent From Micah's Lumia 1520

Which ones do you consider whining, and which constructive criticism?

 

[Wevenhuis]

Sounds like there should be some kind of NDA signed saying that if you agree to install and help make the product better, you can't whine like you tried to cash a bogus check.

What tips have you got to help comment/write in a manner to improve the prouduct? What would you consider whining and what would you consider constructive feedback?

 

[mjrtoo]

Sounds like there should be some kind of NDA signed saying that if you agree to install and help make the product better, you can't whine like you tried to cash a bogus check.

Right, this post helped make the product better, thanks!

 

[JamesDax]

Right, this post helped make the product better, thanks!

​And yours did? smdh

 

[mjrtoo]

​And yours did? smdh

It did, at least it was actually about the product, people are just **** hurt because they don't agree. So thanks for your valuable commentary as well.

 

[ajayden]

I installed the Windows 10 technical preview on my macbook and its working great as my daily device

 

[mjrtoo]

I installed the Windows 10 technical preview on my macbook and its working great as my daily device

Great, as a desktop without touch I'm sure it's fine, that's not at all what this conversation is about.

 

[mjrtoo]

​What makes you think it's a minority?

What makes you think it's a majority. 8.1 is a good OS, better than 7, which was a good OS as well. People only complain about it because it's different, but people complained before 8.1 that Windows was stagnant and boring. Now they are trying to appease the masses that don't care to learn anything by putting something out there that will be a crappy compromise for the mouse/keyboard users and even crappier for the touch users. Especially for the users that like to use both with a keyboard connected.

Even though this is a forum, I still feel I have to say imo, because that's lost on a lot of people these days.

 

[Michael Alan Goff]

What makes you think it's a majority. 8.1 is a good OS, better than 7, which was a good OS as well. People only complain about it because it's different, but people complained before 8.1 that Windows was stagnant and boring. Now they are trying to appease the masses that don't care to learn anything by putting something out there that will be a crappy compromise for the mouse/keyboard users and even crappier for the touch users. Especially for the users that like to use both with a keyboard connected.

Even though this is a forum, I still feel I have to say imo, because that's lost on a lot of people these days.

​Then fact that there were months hen Windows 7 went up and 8.x went down. The fact that Vista did better.

 

[mjrtoo]

​Then fact that there were months hen Windows 7 went up and 8.x went down. The fact that Vista did better.

Right, because people ***** and complain for change, get it, then ***** and moan they changed. Proving most people are idiots.

 

[Michael Alan Goff]

Right, because people ***** and complain for change, get it, then ***** and moan they changed. Proving most people are idiots.

​I have this subtle feelin that any information I give you will somehow be turned around to how you're right, regardless of what the information actually is.

 

[Ed Boland]

lets hope 10 turns out better than it appears right now.

I understand all of your concerns that you conveyed in your video. All I can say, (and all we can hope for) is that this 9926 build is still a very early build, and that the final product will be every thing that we loved about 7 and 8/8.1, and so much more... provided that we all collectively voice our concerns and constructive criticism through the feedback program.

When I look at the 9879 build of Win10 TP which I still have up and running on my laptop, and compare it to this latest 9926 build I have running on my desktop, the 9879 build seems so much more "robust" and closer to finished than the latest 9926 build. (to me anyway) This leads me to believe that they've obviously rebuilt it from the ground up, and "re-seated" the core of the OS, while adding the new features along the way (Cortana etc), and still have much work to do to bring it up to where we felt it was closer to "consumer ready" by using it. In other words, I really feel like the 9926 build is in a lot of ways a little more premature than the 9879 build was. Be patient, and use that feedback app... we'll get there!

btw.. I don't think anyone else noticed in your video, but you've got one of the uber rare "prototype" Type cover keyboards for your Surface... I'm jealous! And I don't even have a Surface anymore lol

 

[eruptflail]

It's not done. They know it isn't optimized for touch. They say don't put it on a compressed operating system. They say its gonna get better later. Why complain so early?

Sure, give feedback (through the TP) but there's no need to complain as of yet. It's not even close to being released.

 

[JamesDax]

Right, because people ***** and complain for change, get it, then ***** and moan they changed. Proving most people are idiots.

​The irony.

 

[mjrtoo]

I understand all of your concerns that you conveyed in your video. All I can say, (and all we can hope for) is that this 9926 build is still a very early build, and that the final product will be every thing that we loved about 7 and 8/8.1, and so much more... provided that we all collectively voice our concerns and constructive criticism through the feedback program.

When I look at the 9879 build of Win10 TP which I still have up and running on my laptop, and compare it to this latest 9926 build I have running on my desktop, the 9879 build seems so much more "robust" and closer to finished than the latest 9926 build. (to me anyway) This leads me to believe that they've obviously rebuilt it from the ground up, and "re-seated" the core of the OS, while adding the new features along the way (Cortana etc), and still have much work to do to bring it up to where we felt it was closer to "consumer ready" by using it. In other words, I really feel like the 9926 build is in a lot of ways a little more premature than the 9879 build was. Be patient, and use that feedback app... we'll get there!

btw.. I don't think anyone else noticed in your video, but you've got one of the uber rare "prototype" Type cover keyboards for your Surface... I'm jealous! And I don't even have a Surface anymore lol

It's not my video, just one I posted.

 

[ajayden]

Great, as a desktop without touch I'm sure it's fine, that's not at all what this conversation is about.

Yes you are right, Macbook is not a touch device. I have also installed on an Acer Tablet. Well, the expanded start screen does not come closer to the Windows 8/8.1 version.