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  1. tpapictures's Avatar
    Yeah, been there, that was the process that began this whole wretched journey. When you run the Windows 8 installer through that method it doesn't boot, causes an error and boots back to Windows 10.
    05-10-2015 04:25 PM
  2. pankaj981's Avatar
    Okay in that case you'll have to remove all the partitions using diskpart commands first and then attempt the install
    05-10-2015 04:26 PM
  3. tpapictures's Avatar
    Okay in that case you'll have to remove all the partitions using diskpart commands first and then attempt the install
    That's why I said before "If I go this diskpart route, how do I find out what the Windows 8 partitions were to recreate them? "
    05-10-2015 04:28 PM
  4. pankaj981's Avatar
    I didn't have to create any disk partitions manually. I just whacked everything off using the clean command. Then ran setup after booting from the USB and the 8.1 evaluation installation took care of the reset.
    05-10-2015 04:32 PM
  5. tpapictures's Avatar
    Ok, so you're saying run diskpart to essentially wipe the emmc on the tablet. So, at that point, you have a tablet with no OS.
    Then, boot from the USB drive using that 8.1 Enterprise ISO (why enterprise by the way?) to install it to the tablet. And just copying the ISO contents onto the USB drive will make it bootable?
    Then once that's installed and created all the partitions it needs in the process, you then restore to the xandros recovery?
    05-10-2015 04:37 PM
  6. pankaj981's Avatar
    I am going to keep this as short as possible



    Note: The process would wipe off everything and in the end you'll have the Venue 8 Pro with the clean recovery image contents from the forum user



    1) Open command prompt and clean all partitions on the eMMC using diskpart commands (you can refer to this link to start with. There are other ways if you look around, doesn't matter which one you use). This step will remove all traces of Windows 10 and your tablet will be clean to start with 8.1 installation. If you turn ON the tablet at this point it would say no media detected, meaning its not able to detect any internal eMMC media



    2) Using the Windows 7 USB Tool, create an 8.1/8.0 bootable USB from any Windows 8.1/8.0 ISO file (If you do not have a x86 copy then use the evaluation version to begin)



    3) Change the BIOS settings to boot from the recovery media. You will have to tinker with the UEFI firmware settings and allow the USB as the primary boot device and boot from the USB to install Windows 8/8.1. Since the OS does not have any touch drivers the touch screen won't be functional hence have a keyboard/mouse ready



    4) Complete the process like a regular Windows 8.1 install.



    5) After the OS is installed, use the existing USB drive to create the recovery partition to restore. Format the USB in FAT32 (I don't remember this) and then move all the contents from xandros9's image file to the root of the drive



    6) Connect the USB and from Windows 8.1's advanced startup options, restore using System Recovery Image option
    Last edited by pankaj981; 05-11-2015 at 07:06 AM.
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    05-10-2015 05:11 PM
  7. tpapictures's Avatar
    I am going to keep this as short as possible...
    Thank you so much for taking all that time. Really appreciate it.
    I still don't get what's going to happen with my product key though. It doesn't seem like my particular product key works with any version of Windows other than the one the tablet came with which I can't get anywhere. Even Dell said they didn't have it. I tried it on 8.0 and 8.1.
    05-10-2015 05:30 PM
  8. pankaj981's Avatar
    Thank you so much for taking all that time. Really appreciate it.
    I still don't get what's going to happen with my product key though. It doesn't seem like my particular product key works with any version of Windows other than the one the tablet came with which I can't get anywhere. Even Dell said they didn't have it. I tried it on 8.0 and 8.1.
    After you restore the image file from xandros9 it won't ask you for the product key and will be activated automatically using the product key burned into your BIOS. You should be fine
    05-10-2015 10:22 PM
  9. tpapictures's Avatar
    2) Using the Windows 7 USB Tool, create an 8.1/8.0 bootable ISO from any Windows 8.1/8.0 ISO file (If you do not have a x86 copy then use the technical preview to begin)
    So, should I not use the Enterprise version you mentioned, then? Why did you specifically refer to the enterprise edition?
    05-11-2015 06:39 AM
  10. pankaj981's Avatar
    So, should I not use the Enterprise version you mentioned, then? Why did you specifically refer to the enterprise edition?


    Shoot, I don't know why I said technical preview. I meant the enterprise evaluation version. I've rectified it in my post so someone else doesn't get confused
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    05-11-2015 06:41 AM
  11. tpapictures's Avatar
    And, sorry, but I'm not clear on this... the Enterprise edition which I already got, how do I turn that ISO into a bootable USB drive?
    05-11-2015 06:45 AM
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    05-11-2015 07:08 AM
  13. tpapictures's Avatar
    I could be totally wrong about this (you obviously know more about this than I do) but I thought that couldn't be used because it doesn't create a UEFI bootable USB drive and therefore doesn't work? I think what I had to do was get a FAT32-formatting application so that the thing could be made readable in boot by this tablet. Is this totally wrong?
    05-11-2015 07:14 AM
  14. tpapictures's Avatar
    I am going to keep this as short as possible...
    Doing this now, I'll keep you posted. So far so good, I've got the Enterprise edition running on there. Now going to try to load that recovery image. Thank you so much for your explanations and patience. It's what gave me the confidence to try it.
    05-13-2015 06:44 AM
  15. tpapictures's Avatar
    6) Connect the USB and from Windows 8.1's advanced startup options, restore using System Recovery Image option
    It just doesn't want to load it. I'm definitely running Enterprise now. It sees my xandros USB drive, allows me to choose it as the drive to recover from but then boots right back into advanced startup mode like I didn't just choose the USB drive. Is there more to this setup that I haven't done?
    05-13-2015 07:36 AM
  16. tpapictures's Avatar
    Shoot, I don't know why I said technical preview. I meant the enterprise evaluation version. I've rectified it in my post so someone else doesn't get confused
    I did everything you said, went through it a second time to verify and I just can't get the Enterprise recovery to install that xandros image. Does that make any sense to you?
    05-17-2015 10:17 AM
  17. pankaj981's Avatar
    Yes looks like you got almost through. How did you prepare your recovery image from xandros9's files?
    05-17-2015 07:28 PM
  18. tpapictures's Avatar
    Yes looks like you got almost through. How did you prepare your recovery image from xandros9's files?
    I created a FAT32 usb drive then copied all the extracted files from the image onto the USB drive.
    05-17-2015 07:47 PM
  19. pankaj981's Avatar
    Let me replicate that in the evening today and get back to you. I'm not sure what file system format I had used but all I had to do is copy entire contents on the root of the drive and it let me restore it
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    05-18-2015 08:49 AM
  20. tpapictures's Avatar
    Let me replicate that in the evening today and get back to you. I'm not sure what file system format I had used but all I had to do is copy entire contents on the root of the drive and it let me restore it
    I'd really appreciate that, thank you. There must be SOMEthing I'm doing wrong. Even from a logic perspective, everything I'm doing makes sense. I'll look forward to hearing from you to see if you find anything.
    05-18-2015 08:56 AM
  21. pankaj981's Avatar
    I'd really appreciate that, thank you. There must be SOMEthing I'm doing wrong. Even from a logic perspective, everything I'm doing makes sense. I'll look forward to hearing from you to see if you find anything.
    I tried replicating it today but for some reason it always kept going to my internal recovery drive. Have you tried the last suggestion on this thread?

    Also are you trying to restore using the advanced startup >> troubleshoot >> advanced options >> system image recovery?
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    05-19-2015 09:50 PM
  22. tpapictures's Avatar
    I tried replicating it today but for some reason it always kept going to my internal recovery drive. Have you tried the last suggestion on this thread?
    Well, this is the recommendation: "a USB FAT32 formatted card and link the bios with a new entry to the EFI it will restore as long as your over 90% battery"
    1. I have no idea what a "USB card" is.
    2. I don't know what link the BIOS with a new entry to the EFI means.
    Also are you trying to restore using the advanced startup >> troubleshoot >> advanced options >> system image recovery?
    Yes, I've tried every way imaginable, choosing external drive, choosing system image, everything.
    05-20-2015 06:48 AM
  23. pankaj981's Avatar
    Yes, I've tried every way imaginable, choosing external drive, choosing system image, everything.
    With today's TP release I might end up reinstalling TP on my V8P. I guess when I roll back I will have a precise answer. I seriously don't remember what I did to restore it but the things I do remember was 1) I was on 8.1 Enterprise 2) I used the image file from xandros9. Try to send xandros9 a PM and see if he remembers anything. You might also have to disable secure boot in the BIOS during the restore
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    05-20-2015 04:45 PM
  24. tpapictures's Avatar
    Try to send xandros9 a PM...
    Thanks, just PMed him.
    05-21-2015 11:02 AM
  25. tpapictures's Avatar
    You might also have to disable secure boot in the BIOS during the restore
    Hey, thanks again for all your help. I did try again with the secure boot disabled. PMed xandros, he couldn't figure out what was wrong either. I don't have any other solution or answer here so I'm beginning to accept that I have an expensive paperweight. I guess when 10 officially comes out I can always install it. But for now, absolutely nothing is working for me. It's become very annoying.
    But thanks for you help.
    05-31-2015 07:17 AM
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