1. ChefFabrizio's Avatar
    I was happy running windows 8.1 on my Surface.

    but about a month ago. I couldn't take the fact that no new software was coming to me.

    so, I decided to use the insider program and upgrade. It was working so well on my 640xl, whatever could go wrong?

    In short, everything. My first attempt at upgrading too literally 30 tries. Wouldn't sign me in, no Bluetooth, no Surface Keyboard, no onscreen keyboard. No pen support. Just a Moment screens for hours.

    The only good thing is the Power button and Volume Down key. To boot directly from the USB drive. Saved my machine a dozen or so times.

    Rollback feature is useless as I saw yet again last night. Rolled back a preview build and in the process created an unrecoverable Mail and Calendar app. Can't upgrade, can't downgrade. Only can reset. Oh yeah, THANKS MICROSOFT, for not using the windows 8.1 feature of loading a good image, with icon layout, and program lists. I HATE GABE AUL. I hate the whole MS team, and I forced to keep using it, because I hate GOOGLE AND APPLE MORE.

    This is a complete clown collection. To try and fix a Bluetooth erratic (at best) situation, I tried the latest Insider build. AND? yes you guessed it, Event Tracing Fatal Error. Won't boot. Just BSOD every time I try.

    The insider program is just a dog fooding process. I am not sure if they even test these things. How can Bluetooth be so unstable. On a random basis. Sometimes it works. And most times it doesn't.

    I hate them. and I hate Windows 10.

    Microsoft, get out of the Consumer business.
    04-27-2016 10:13 AM
  2. BaritoneGuy's Avatar
    You were warned. Not sure why you just didn't go to 10586 on the device though. It is very stable.
    ven07 likes this.
    04-27-2016 10:21 AM
  3. Pete's Avatar
    And it doesn't occur to you that many thousands of people are using the Insider builds of Windows 10 on their computers without these fairly fundamental issues?

    You can't really paint Microsoft with this brush if everyone else isn't having the same problems.
    ven07, rusty502, aximtreo and 1 others like this.
    04-27-2016 10:22 AM
  4. ven07's Avatar
    If you are using insider builds instead of the more stable production builds, Microsoft isn't to blame here. The fast ring doesn't provide solutions faster; it provides buggier builds faster

    Please read: http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...elines%5D.html
    04-27-2016 10:47 AM
  5. ChefFabrizio's Avatar
    not for me. Bluetooth, refuses to work on any build
    04-27-2016 11:14 AM
  6. ChefFabrizio's Avatar
    blame the victim? How silly.

    I knew the risk, but didn't realize Bluetooth was such an advanced feature, that it can't be fixed.

    it's only a problem if Everyone has it? Like you?

    Silly
    04-27-2016 11:15 AM
  7. ChefFabrizio's Avatar
    None of the builds have been stable.

    All I want is Bluetooth to reliably work. Great answer.
    04-27-2016 11:16 AM
  8. BaritoneGuy's Avatar
    blame the victim? How silly.

    I knew the risk, but didn't realize Bluetooth was such an advanced feature, that it can't be fixed.

    it's only a problem if Everyone has it? Like you?

    Silly
    You are not a victim, so blaming you is easy. YOU SIGNED UP FOR THIS.
    04-27-2016 11:47 AM
  9. ChefFabrizio's Avatar
    hardly, blaming you is much easier, because you are myopic. WIndows 10 has no ad blocking at any build. That's modern. LOTS of posts with Surface 3's having the same exact problem.

    but, only YOUR opinion matters. Smug.
    04-27-2016 03:13 PM
  10. ChefFabrizio's Avatar
    not being able to reinstall software from a prior image? Modern. Any build do that? Windows 8.1 did it with ease, on any build. Progress.

    Bluetooth stack on Surface 3, is a mess. rarely works. Any build. Not just insider. Surface Keyboard. Randomly works. ANy build.

    this would be acceptable if it was the first day of work for MS. It's not. They have been in business for 40 years. I've had NO build of windows 10 be stable. Or modern.
    04-27-2016 03:17 PM
  11. BaritoneGuy's Avatar
    hardly, blaming you is much easier, because you are myopic. WIndows 10 has no ad blocking at any build. That's modern. LOTS of posts with Surface 3's having the same exact problem.

    but, only YOUR opinion matters. Smug.
    It appears it is the other way around. My surface 3 works just fine. If you go back to your original post you went from 8.1 to 10 Insider fast. Highly un-recommended. So now it is MS fault? SMH.

    10586 branch works fine on the 3. Go there and stay there. You will be less bitter.

    As far as adblocking goes there is more than one option. Use IE11 with tracking protection lists. They work pretty good. If you really want some fun use "hostsman" which not only blocks ads in Edge but does so system wide. Even in apps.
    rusty502 likes this.
    04-27-2016 05:58 PM
  12. rusty502's Avatar
    People should have to pass a test before being allowed to participate in the insider program..............lol
    ven07, neo158, Loc Ngo and 1 others like this.
    04-27-2016 06:22 PM
  13. neo158's Avatar
    People should have to pass a test before being allowed to participate in the insider program..............lol
    To be fair it does give loads of warnings BEFORE installing it, that's why I have no sympathy for people who ignore warnings and then complain that the developer is a fault.
    04-29-2016 03:50 PM
  14. RumoredNow's Avatar
    To be fair it does give loads of warnings BEFORE installing it, that's why I have no sympathy for people who ignore warnings and then complain that the developer is a fault.
    Pardon me, clicking through. One side warnings, I'm a busy guy. *click* Take that wall of text. Next *click click click* Let me in.

    We aimed this at the type of user illustrated above. :) http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...elines%5D.html
    ZoneofJhay, neo158 and Guytronic like this.
    04-29-2016 04:19 PM
  15. SammyD97's Avatar
    If you wanted Windows 10 you should have gone on the production build. If ever you were a victim, you're a victim of yourself. Not the insider program or Microsoft.
    04-30-2016 12:30 AM
  16. Orlando Noronha's Avatar
    Hi and hello.
    install windows 8.1 and then go for a stable build upgrade.

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/e?l...token=2Mt0mmbY

    Read:
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/e?l...token=701NvYox
    05-01-2016 06:16 AM

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