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  1. Llordy's Avatar
    What is the future of Windows Phone?



    ...One OS to Rule Them all...
    1_windowsphone9.jpg

    This is perhaps one of most asked questions since the announcement of Windows 10.


    Could the user experience on large screened phones be more like a tablet?

    8_start_8_1.jpg

    It seems that Windows Fans have something great/terrible to look forward to in 2015. What sort of features will be retained by the OS?; what experience and apps will the OS adopt?; will all current Windows Phone 8.1 devices receive this OS update?
    These are the questions whirring about the Windows world. What are your thought about Windows 10?
    • The OS to replace all others?
    • The 'one' to rule?
    • What will the performance and execution of the experience on all these ranges of devices be like?
    • Will it lag?



    Thanks to a little hint from Microsoft we get a glimpse of what the future of Windows Phone/Tablet may be.
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    Be sure to leave a comment, with any ideas, thoughts, questions and problems about Windows 10.
    Last edited by Llordy; 10-08-2014 at 12:05 PM. Reason: Added Information
    09-30-2014 04:05 PM
  2. flattie's Avatar
    image112.png

    This cropped pic was posted by WMPU - gives a little more insight into where they want to take the mobile UI. Note the Windows Phone style control buttons (back, home, search) on the tablet...

    Interesting, certainly, but it's the universal apps that I want to hear more about.
    09-30-2014 04:45 PM
  3. thrash994's Avatar
    I like the way WP it is now but I'd like to see a bunch of new features. Unfortunately, this will never happen. Honestly I don't like Windows 10 UI (as shown on the picture in 1st post) for phones.

    And what about live folders? I find this feature pretty neat and useful. I want that to be included in Windows 10.
    Jonnie LasVegas likes this.
    09-30-2014 04:45 PM
  4. WanderingTraveler's Avatar
    I like the way WP it is now but I'd like to see a bunch of new features. Unfortunately, this will never happen. Honestly I don't like Windows 10 UI (as shown on the picture in 1st post) for phones.

    And what about live folders? I find this feature pretty neat and useful. I want that to be included in Windows 10.
    Considering the response to live folders, and how some users are still asking for it as of the Windows 8.1 Update, and the fact that the Start Screen is going to shrink...

    ...I'd say that Live Folders are a fantastic idea that has a high chance of implementation. (Otherwise, syncing Start Screens would break the WP Start screen.)
    09-30-2014 05:07 PM
  5. Im_Q's Avatar
    I, for one much prefer WP's flavor of the Modern UI over Windows 8/8.1's take of it. The differences between them also extends far beyond color palettes as well. The phone team behind the original WP OS (7.0) seemed to be more devoted to the synergy of usability as well as beauty. Panoramas were gorgeous, pivots were delightful, the attention to detail in layout and animations were astounding. Windows 8, hubs (equivalent of hubs) are horizontal scrolling of sections. There's no parallax effect between the title and the content and there's no wrap around at the end. Pivots don't even exist in Windows 8 so I can't compare. Animations are worlds better on the phone. They are quicker and have more personality. Even the animation for when you press on an item is better. Tap on a tile on Windows and only one of four things will happen: tilt left, right, up or down. In WP, doing the same tilts it as if your finger has a weight and reacts to the specific point your finger touches the screen. Tap closer to the edge, the more it tilts; not true with Windows. I also think allowing color tiles on top of custom backgrounds was a mistake. It's just too busy and inelegant.

    The phone team seemed to understand usability better too. Hardware back button: check (no looking for back button or have it out of reach like on iPhone's top left corner). Primary touch UI: at the bottom as the AppBar (less reaching to the top). Logical UI: no hidden important UI elements (AppBar always present or a small bit is visible as opposed to always hidden Windows 8 Appbar). I could go on but I hope the minds behind some of the phone's great UX choices will have a say as final release draw closer of Windows 10.
    09-30-2014 05:15 PM
  6. KevinTheLinja's Avatar
    I, for one much prefer WP's flavor of the Modern UI over Windows 8/8.1's take of it. The differences between them also extends far beyond color palettes as well. The phone team behind the original WP OS (7.0) seemed to be more devoted to the synergy of usability as well as beauty. Panoramas were gorgeous, pivots were delightful, the attention to detail in layout and animations were astounding. Windows 8, hubs (equivalent of hubs) are horizontal scrolling of sections. There's no parallax effect between the title and the content and there's no wrap around at the end. Pivots don't even exist in Windows 8 so I can't compare. Animations are worlds better on the phone. They are quicker and have more personality. Even the animation for when you press on an item is better. Tap on a tile on Windows and only one of four things will happen: tilt left, right, up or down. In WP, doing the same tilts it as if your finger has a weight and reacts to the specific point your finger touches the screen. Tap closer to the edge, the more it tilts; not true with Windows. I also think allowing color tiles on top of custom backgrounds was a mistake. It's just too busy and inelegant.

    The phone team seemed to understand usability better too. Hardware back button: check (no looking for back button or have it out of reach like on iPhone's top left corner). Primary touch UI: at the bottom as the AppBar (less reaching to the top). Logical UI: no hidden important UI elements (AppBar always present or a small bit is visible as opposed to always hidden Windows 8 Appbar). I could go on but I hope the minds behind some of the phone's great UX choices will have a say as final release draw closer of Windows 10.
    Yes. This comment embodies my exact sentiments. Even with every new release of Windows Phone, I felt the OS moving away from its core design roots of perfectly blending form and function. Hopefully those original "Metro" designers have some good input on Windows 10.
    09-30-2014 05:29 PM
  7. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    Keep in mind that the image is pure render, not even a screenshot, so the UI is very likely to be different.
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    09-30-2014 06:54 PM
  8. Brad Lambert's Avatar
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    This cropped pic was posted by WMPU - gives a little more insight into where they want to take the mobile UI. Note the Windows Phone style control buttons (back, home, search) on the tablet...

    Interesting, certainly, but it's the universal apps that I want to hear more about.
    Notice how the phone doesn't have a background, only more theme color. (Save for the tiny "header" above the yellow tiles.) I am hopeful that they keep the black/white in between the tiles, however the edge-to-edge UI on the phone seems like an excellent use of space.

    The smaller tablet uses the same background as on the larger tablet, albeit it is hard to tell with nothing but a gradiant as the background image. At least the theme color still plays a role...

    In any case, Microsoft hasn't hit me once with a design language that I don't ultimately love. I am confident that Windows 10 is going to be incredible.
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    09-30-2014 07:06 PM
  9. ronaldme's Avatar
    I like the way WP it is now but I'd like to see a bunch of new features. Unfortunately, this will never happen. Honestly I don't like Windows 10 UI (as shown on the picture in 1st post) for phones.

    And what about live folders? I find this feature pretty neat and useful. I want that to be included in Windows 10.
    I love how people can see the future.

    Even when each developer preview, even the minors (8.1->8.1.1) are adding features, the people keep so negative.
    09-30-2014 07:34 PM
  10. manicottiK's Avatar
    The phone team behind the original WP OS (7.0) seemed to be more devoted to the synergy of usability as well as beauty. Panoramas were gorgeous, pivots were delightful, the attention to detail in layout and animations were astounding. Windows 8, hubs (equivalent of hubs) are horizontal scrolling of sections. There's no parallax effect between the title and the content and there's no wrap around at the end. Pivots don't even exist in Windows 8 so I can't compare.
    Moreover, the panels in WP panos and pivots scroll vertically while Win8 apps don't do this. This is a dumb thing to have dropped just because the Win8 screen is likely larger.
    09-30-2014 07:47 PM
  11. Llordy's Avatar
    I, for one much prefer WP's flavor of the Modern UI over Windows 8/8.1's take of it. The differences between them also extends far beyond color palettes as well. The phone team behind the original WP OS (7.0) seemed to be more devoted to the synergy of usability as well as beauty. Panoramas were gorgeous, pivots were delightful, the attention to detail in layout and animations were astounding. Windows 8, hubs (equivalent of hubs) are horizontal scrolling of sections. There's no parallax effect between the title and the content and there's no wrap around at the end. Pivots don't even exist in Windows 8 so I can't compare. Animations are worlds better on the phone. They are quicker and have more personality. Even the animation for when you press on an item is better. Tap on a tile on Windows and only one of four things will happen: tilt left, right, up or down. In WP, doing the same tilts it as if your finger has a weight and reacts to the specific point your finger touches the screen. Tap closer to the edge, the more it tilts; not true with Windows. I also think allowing color tiles on top of custom backgrounds was a mistake. It's just too busy and inelegant.

    The phone team seemed to understand usability better too. Hardware back button: check (no looking for back button or have it out of reach like on iPhone's top left corner). Primary touch UI: at the bottom as the AppBar (less reaching to the top). Logical UI: no hidden important UI elements (AppBar always present or a small bit is visible as opposed to always hidden Windows 8 Appbar). I could go on but I hope the minds behind some of the phone's great UX choices will have a say as final release draw closer of Windows 10.
    I am very sceptical about this whole shift of windows Phone. I can only hope that my fears, and question can be answered, likes others, in the coming months. This whole experience feels eerily like what Microsoft has done in the past: they dumped Windows Mobile 6.5 to make Windows Phone 7, then dumped Windows Phone 7, to push windows Phone 8, I'm sorry, but if they keep fluctuating so much in the future, with designs, and OS operations, then They are going to say good by to the faithful Smartphone/mobile community.
    09-30-2014 08:27 PM
  12. Llordy's Avatar
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    This cropped pic was posted by WMPU - gives a little more insight into where they want to take the mobile UI. Note the Windows Phone style control buttons (back, home, search) on the tablet...

    Interesting, certainly, but it's the universal apps that I want to hear more about.
    The UI on the phone seems to retain the live folder support, so it can either be a unique offering on the phone or it with be carried over to all versions.
    09-30-2014 08:35 PM
  13. Im_Q's Avatar
    Moreover, the panels in WP panos and pivots scroll vertically while Win8 apps don't do this. This is a dumb thing to have dropped just because the Win8 screen is likely larger.

    Actually it's very possible to have it scroll vertically in Windows 8 hubs. It's just the shipped templates for designing apps don't so most dev don't do it
    09-30-2014 08:39 PM
  14. Im_Q's Avatar
    I also will add that I'm a little bit more optimistic after seeing continuum though. In tablet mode, a virtual back button is adding and Tom Warren claims the win 10 search button invokes Cortana. This is good indication that at least some WP influences will be present. Also hoping belfiore will guide it in the right directions.
    Karthik Naik likes this.
    09-30-2014 08:55 PM
  15. NarcisoSNeto's Avatar
    That looks amazing and seems the "thing that I was looking for", as I like to have same ecosystem between phone+tablet+desktop.
    Now I have a Windows Phone, an Android Tablet and an iMac as desktop, such thing is the ideal thing that makes me want to have an Windows Phone, Tablet and desktop.

    Also UI looks better, refined... Space between tiles are really better than actual. Hope to see this UI changes to really happen! :D

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    09-30-2014 09:41 PM
  16. rodan01's Avatar
    Bad idea, Windows 8 Store apps will have problems with the WP UI, and WP apps aren't designed for big screens.

    Microsoft is introducing so many changes without any improvement.
    09-30-2014 10:07 PM
  17. mjrtoo's Avatar
    Bad idea, Windows 8 Store apps will have problems with the WP UI, and WP apps aren't designed for big screens.

    Microsoft is introducing so many changes without any improvement.
    Oh, ok, show us your OS then.
    09-30-2014 10:11 PM
  18. Shobin Drogan's Avatar
    Bad idea, Windows 8 Store apps will have problems with the WP UI, and WP apps aren't designed for big screens.

    Microsoft is introducing so many changes without any improvement.
    I believe that is only if the app is a universal app, so it is up to the developer. There are many apps still look great scaled up, maybe you will notice only if you have a 2k monitor.
    Karthik Naik likes this.
    09-30-2014 10:19 PM
  19. taymur's Avatar
    If in someway they can replicate my desktop modern UI side of the start menu to my phone. WOW

    And every time I change the layout on my phone I see it automatically sync with my desktop start menu. i already have tears in my eyes.
    10-01-2014 02:59 AM
  20. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    Bad idea, Windows 8 Store apps will have problems with the WP UI, and WP apps aren't designed for big screens.

    Microsoft is introducing so many changes without any improvement.
    this is why people should read articles fully before posting
    universal apps doesnt mean that,it means itll be easier for devs to port apps across windows 10(phone,tablet ,pc etc)
    the designs etc will change,you cannot honestly expect an app designed for a pc with a keyboard and mouse to be ported to a phone without changes in design
    10-01-2014 03:30 AM
  21. psoham777's Avatar
    this is why people should read articles fully before posting
    universal apps doesnt mean that,it means itll be easier for devs to port apps across windows 10(phone,tablet ,pc etc)
    the designs etc will change,you cannot honestly expect an app designed for a pc with a keyboard and mouse to be ported to a phone without changes in design
    I agree
    10-01-2014 03:54 AM
  22. Vishnu Hs's Avatar
    The million dollar question is will it support current windows devices ie WP8/8.1 running devices???
    El Bori likes this.
    10-01-2014 07:23 AM
  23. hysonmb's Avatar
    Joe B made it a point to clearly state that this is not the UI that will ship. It's conceptual, but, there's a lot more to be done before it rolls out.
    We'll see if they stick to the commitment of taking feedback from the insider program, the suggestions being made in this thread are things they should review.
    10-01-2014 07:39 AM
  24. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    Joe B made it a point to clearly state that this is not the UI that will ship. It's conceptual, but, there's a lot more to be done before it rolls out.
    We'll see if they stick to the commitment of taking feedback from the insider program, the suggestions being made in this thread are things they should review.
    hmm i think he probably said that incase people didnt take it well etc like when windows 8 was released
    hopefully i think they have gotten the windows ecosystem right this time!!
    10-01-2014 09:01 AM
  25. Zuchit's Avatar
    Can't wait to try out Windows 10 dev preview! :)
    10-01-2014 09:33 AM
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