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  1. Trill Gates's Avatar
    Do you think the absence of any Microsoft Lumia flagships being announced is a sign that the upcoming flagships might bare the "Surface" name?

    This positions the colorful Lumia phones to compete with the iPhone 5c (or potential 6c) and other low-mid range Androids to serve as a stepping stone to both the SP3 tablet and Surface smartphone. Premium flagship(s) would have solid black/silver VaporMG and better position itself against the premium iPhone 6/6+.
    A solid metal phone just feels more premium than plastics, and the Surface name has been given alot of acclaim and credibility in the tech journalism community and enterprise as well as seen as a credible alternative to Apple products. So it seems like a higher priced Microsoft phone might sell better with the Surface nameplate, especially if their chief enterprise rival is Apple.
    Maybe wishful thinking but dang imagine a VaporMG Surface phone, a Surface Pro 3 and Xbox One in your home and being able send/receive Wifi texts/calls from any of the 3 like Apple does with the iPhone/Pod/Pad and Macbook. Finally uniting more established Microsoft hardware with the phones could help WP's sluggish sales in the US..
    a5cent, andy1009, satrus08 and 3 others like this.
    11-14-2014 05:54 PM
  2. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    That would be cool, I must admit. If a Surface Phone were to arrive soon, I'd definitely be interested. I think you make some good points.
    Trill Gates likes this.
    11-14-2014 06:07 PM
  3. gizzzmo's Avatar
    If a Surface phone represented the same design and build quality then I'd buy it without any hesitation. I'd choose it over Microsoft Lumia anytime.
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    11-14-2014 06:10 PM
  4. Trill Gates's Avatar
    If a Surface phone represented the same design and build quality then I'd buy it without any hesitation. I'd choose it over Microsoft Lumia anytime.
    Same here, at least for the mainstream consumer who isn't savvy on specs the build material makes all the difference. A iPhone 6+ feels and looks superior to a 1520 even though it isn't per se. Perception is everything and right now Surface and their solid Magnesium bodies reinforce Microsoft's ability to compete with premium built Apple products. I just don't think plastic is the way to go for flagships. IMO
    steve_w_7 likes this.
    11-14-2014 06:53 PM
  5. Kaushik Dash's Avatar
    Not happening guys, not happening.
    11-15-2014 06:04 AM
  6. t.mehoves's Avatar
    I had the same thought the other day, and it could happen I suppose. It would also give a perception of 2 different lines.
    Trill Gates likes this.
    11-15-2014 08:12 AM
  7. Trill Gates's Avatar
    I had the same thought the other day, and it could happen I suppose. It would also give a perception of 2 different lines.
    Heck I'd pre-order and buy one up front without any carrier subsidy if they made a silver VaporMG Surface phone with a 5-6" 1080p+ screen with a Snapdragon 805 and 3-4 GB of RAM. Sigh... doesn't hurt to daydream I guess.
    11-15-2014 04:48 PM
  8. Trill Gates's Avatar
    Not happening guys, not happening.
    Ya probably not sadly even though a phone built with the same metal chassis as the Surface would be awesome. I'm just getting annoyed at the complete lack of WP flagships heading into the holiday season...
    11-15-2014 04:58 PM
  9. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    If it is made of just metal, have fun with no NFC. Even Apple has a band across the phone to let the NFC work.
    someone2639 likes this.
    11-15-2014 11:40 PM
  10. PachecoCorporationCeo's Avatar
    Okay I always hear "Microsoft make a Surface Phone" what would that be exactly? And what would be the difference between a WP.
    11-16-2014 03:39 AM
  11. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    Okay I always hear "Microsoft make a Surface Phone" what would that be exactly? And what would be the difference between a WP.
    Surface Phone would be a Windows phone. It would just be designed more like the Surface line. VaporMag would be used, for example.
    11-16-2014 07:29 AM
  12. Trill Gates's Avatar
    If it is made of just metal, have fun with no NFC. Even Apple has a band across the phone to let the NFC work.
    Well I'd be fine with certain accommodations for NFC, I'm sure the Surface and former Nokia engineers would figure it out.
    11-16-2014 02:44 PM
  13. Trill Gates's Avatar
    Okay I always hear "Microsoft make a Surface Phone" what would that be exactly? And what would be the difference between a WP.
    It would be like Apple with the 5c and 5S and now 6/6+. The plastic Lumias would be more affordable Hardware and the Surface would be more premium. Same OS but with a hardware hierarchy.
    11-16-2014 02:47 PM
  14. EMINENT 1's Avatar
    Interesting theory, but MS marketing can't be that genius.

    I'd much rather have a Surface branded phone than the horrible Lumia that people butcher into the Chevy Lumina. Hearing Lumia/Lumina will always resonate with low class and shoddy quality just like the car. Lumia is just a weak name. They should've ditched it completely for Surface brand.
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    11-16-2014 04:13 PM
  15. Trill Gates's Avatar
    Interesting theory, but MS marketing can't be that genius.

    I'd much rather have a Surface branded phone than the horrible Lumia that people butcher into the Chevy Lumina. Hearing Lumia/Lumina will always resonate with low class and shoddy quality just like the car. Lumia is just a weak name. They should've ditched it completely for Surface brand.
    Ya well the two main clues (or hopes) im hanging on to is complete lack of new "Lumia" flagships and the scrapping of the the Surface mini tablet. I don't think they could completely scrap the Lumia name because I think they need it for the low-mid range, because they want to position Surface as Microsoft's premium mobile hardware, they wouldn't want low end plastic phones with the Surface name for the same reason GM doesn't put the Cadillac name on Chevy Sparks. The Surface brand has much more rapport already in enterprise and is already positioned as a credible high end competitor to the MacBook and iPad so solid VaporMg Surface phone would make sense to go up against the iPhone 6/6+.
    Robinsonmac likes this.
    11-16-2014 04:45 PM
  16. Darthbobcat's Avatar
    A 5-6 inch Windows Phone with Surface Pen support could be fun. Don't foresee it happening though.
    11-16-2014 10:18 PM
  17. Robinsonmac's Avatar
    If they don't create a surface phone they are not smart at all. Which , with there track record is probably true..... I mean they should have had one out for this holiday season already.
    Trill Gates likes this.
    11-16-2014 10:51 PM
  18. Trill Gates's Avatar
    If they don't create a surface phone they are not smart at all. Which , with there track record is probably true..... I mean they should have had one out for this holiday season already.
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    Exactly! The Surface Pro 3 has created so much buzz for the name, Microsoft would've been wise to make a flagship Surface phone that could ride the momentum and hopefully spurn some adoption of the platform by current Surface owners who use iOS and Android smartphones.
    11-17-2014 12:04 AM
  19. Trill Gates's Avatar
    A 5-6 inch Windows Phone with Surface Pen support could be fun. Don't foresee it happening though.
    Well if we don't see any Lumia flagships released during this holiday season then the moment of truth will be when Windows 10 is ready to roll out to the public. If Microsoft theoretically were to introduce a Surface phone, it would make most sense to make sure it rolls out with Windows 10 already pre-installed. Would be an amazing product to introduce Windows 10 with, it would show the public, that the same OS that can run on their desktop can also fit into their pocket.
    11-17-2014 12:33 AM
  20. EMINENT 1's Avatar
    A Surface branded phone or any high end phone with a built in stylus that works on the SP3 and phone would be too good to be true. Just the sense to brand their phones Surface instead of Lumia shows their marketing failure in itself. It's proven time and time again that no one cares about Lumia. I've never heard anyone reference WP as a Lumia. I'd never call my phone a Lumia. People know them as WP or 920 or 1520. Lumia could be omitted forever and no one would care. It just doesn't resonate with the world, not just from my perspective, but everyone I know too. Even in talking to staff at stores and carriers, they omit Lumia in reference. It's just terrible.

    Microsoft just doesn't have the talent or marketing capability to make something that awesome, not even in name.
    Last edited by EMINENT 1; 11-18-2014 at 02:52 AM.
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    11-18-2014 01:43 AM
  21. satrus08's Avatar
    A Surface branded phone or any high end phone with a a built in stylus that works on the SP3 and phone would be too good to be true. Just the sense to brand their phones Surface instead of Lumia shows their marketing failure in itself. It's proven time and time again that no one cares about Lumia. I've never heard anyone reference WP as a Lumia. I'd never call my phone a Lumia. People know them as WP or 920 or 1520. Lumia could be omitted forever and no one would care. It just doesn't resonate with the world, not just from my perspective, but everyone I know too.

    Microsoft just doesn't have the talent or marketing capability to make something that awesome, not even in name.
    Then we should make this thread explode with popularity so that Microsoft can see it! :)
    11-18-2014 01:50 AM
  22. andy1009's Avatar
    Whatever Microsoft Employee is reading this, please make this known at MS HQ; we all want a premium Surface-esque Windows Phone! We love our windows phones but a daily driver needs to feel and look premium so that it turns heads!! Come on MS, step up your game with your new mobile department! You need to bust into this market Richter 7 style
    Trill Gates likes this.
    11-18-2014 01:08 PM
  23. Trill Gates's Avatar
    Yes, I agree however they should keep the Lumia name for the low to mid range plastic phones that sell well outside of the US. However having said that I think they really, really would benefit from branding their flagship Windows 10 phones with the Surface name. If you wanna sell premium smartphones build them to look and feel premium. Like I said above in another reply: the iPhone 6+ feels and looks superior to the Lumia 1520 because the average consumer associates the perception of quality with sturdy metals and glass and cheapness with plastics.
    11-18-2014 01:08 PM
  24. PepperdotNet's Avatar
    If it looks like what you guys are describing, and if it has x86 and runs real Windows and has USB, SDcard and video output slots I will buy one. Basically a Surface Pro 3 on a smaller scale with LTE radios and "phone" app on the start screen.
    11-18-2014 01:28 PM
  25. Trill Gates's Avatar
    Interesting... I'm not sure yet if Microsoft has any plans to make true x86 available on W10 smartphones, as for a full sized USB 3.0 port I don't know if that would be very practical or feasible from an engineering standpoint on a thin 5-6" screen Surface phone. Not to mention it would be dirt, dust and water damage hazard on a phone that gets around more than a tablet or laptop.

    I'd offer 2 color options to start (black VaporMg and silver VaporMg)
    1 RAM size to start: 3GB
    1 Screen size to start (5.6") 1440 pixel resolution
    Two SSD size options: 64 GB and 128 GB (both with Micro SD expansion)
    One Processor Option: Snapdragon 810
    AVAILABLE ON ALL MAJOR CARRIERS

    The product line depth would have to be small at launch to minimize risk and minimize the production costs. If a Surface phone caught on they could in the future possibly offer more options. But I would be alot more confident in a Surface phone's ability to catch on than any Lumia.
    11-18-2014 01:54 PM
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