01-25-2015 07:22 AM
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  1. emiel1976's Avatar
    I will install it on m ativ s first and maybe later on my lumia 1020 if stable enough.
    But I love it ho it looks.

    Microsoft impressed me today on a positive way and I can't wait till win 10 is finished and running on all my devises.
    2015 looks to become a great year for my hardware. :-)
    01-21-2015 11:49 PM
  2. Naren Parker's Avatar
    It was a great presentation by MS. However, they could have demoed interactive live tiles. Dunno if they would be in the final build but they can really make the whole live tile concept come alive. MS Research already has showcased it during the WP 8.0 days where actions would seamlessly transfer from PC to Phone and vice versa.
    01-22-2015 01:05 AM
  3. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    It was a great presentation by MS. However, they could have demoed interactive live tiles. Dunno if they would be in the final build but they can really make the whole live tile concept come alive. MS Research already has showcased it during the WP 8.0 days where actions would seamlessly transfer from PC to Phone and vice versa.
    The preview was that...a preview. It wasn't meant to go heavy duty into everything about the OS and what not. It was meant to touch on the most important features and aspects(which it did).

    Stuff like interactive tiles are great but not necessarily game changing and we'll probably see that in either
    A. The Preview
    B. MWC
    C. Build
    01-22-2015 01:55 AM
  4. Pranjal Rai's Avatar
    If it's linked to iOS or Android, people here hate it...hat's the reason people hate the hamburger icon. I personally don't care. It has no effect on how I use an app.

    Anyways, I'm digging the background image. I hope there's still an option to keep it as is as well. Always good to have a few options.
    Same here, I dont understand what all the fuss is about?
    And I would also prefer keeping the background image as option....I prefer my tiles opaque, on a white or black bg.
    01-22-2015 02:06 AM
  5. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    Same here, I dont understand what all the fuss is about?
    And I would also prefer keeping the background image as option....I prefer my tiles opaque, on a white or black bg.
    If it's linked to iOS or Android, people here hate it...hat's the reason people hate the hamburger icon. I personally don't care. It has no effect on how I use an app.

    Anyways, I'm digging the background image. I hope there's still an option to keep it as is as well. Always good to have a few options.
    I love how you make it sound like we're fans crying over nothing.

    It has less to do with the fact that it is IOS/Android esque. It's the fact that people fear Windows phone/Windows 10 is losing its identity and the unique aspects that made us choose it over the big two. I can certainly agree and understand that.

    The OS has lost some windows phone 7 qualities to make it more android/IOS like and it is a copycat in some ways...and guess what? Doing so really hasn't done much for people to get one.

    It's less of the IOS/Android thing and more because people actually WANT a unique OS that is different from the others and bringing in enough muscle(aka features) without compromising on its original vision.
    01-22-2015 02:31 AM
  6. taymur's Avatar
    Super excited!
    you also look super hungry in that picture :P
    01-22-2015 04:42 AM
  7. Pranjal Rai's Avatar
    I love how you make it sound like we're fans crying over nothing.

    It has less to do with the fact that it is IOS/Android esque. It's the fact that people fear Windows phone/Windows 10 is losing its identity and the unique aspects that made us choose it over the big two. I can certainly agree and understand that.

    The OS has lost some windows phone 7 qualities to make it more android/IOS like and it is a copycat in some ways...and guess what? Doing so really hasn't done much for people to get one.

    It's less of the IOS/Android thing and more because people actually WANT a unique OS that is different from the others and bringing in enough muscle(aka features) without compromising on its original vision.
    Maybe I am one of those who just want to get my job done. It is true, I switched to WP for its induviduality and uniqueness, but at this point, being able to use the OS AND get my job done, is like a win-win for me.
    Although I won't disagree that gradually minimalizing the Metro UI is not going to be benificial for microsoft in the long run...they can't find a spot between Consistency and Deliverance, and continuously keep changing too much **** at one, which I think the average Joe doesn't want.
    So in short, yes. Getting rid of the Metro UI will affect both existing and new users. But there still are people, who just stay on the platform for the sole reason for supporting it, plus getting their job done, Like me.
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    01-22-2015 05:50 AM
  8. Dusan Randj's Avatar
    Can anyone please tell me why the hate for the Hamburger icon everywhere? I don't get the idea...

    Because for lots of us it is ugly. But, more important it changes how things are done in wp. For now you had easy navigation , you've had to pivot/slide or bring bottom navbar to bring options or so. Now, you'll have to reach with your hand (assuming most people are right handed) to far upper left, to choose options and you won't see more than half of your screen. That's just wrong when you had so simple ui.
    Yes you can use it two handed burt is complicated with this.

    However I can survive that hamburger buttom, just if they bring it to the bottom or integrate it in bottom navbar. It would be much easier that way.
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    01-22-2015 06:15 AM
  9. Tom87's Avatar
    I'm loving what I'm seeing so far. The proper background image, interactive tiles, new settings menu, notifications, OUTLOOK - it all looks fantastic and super-productive.

    What is the preview app called? I can't find it in the store!
    01-22-2015 06:39 AM
  10. DenniSundaY's Avatar
    I first was disappointed because the black theme and parallax background were replaced in the new UI (but maybe it is still an option in final build) but Joe didn't use the transparent tiles in the live preview. When I saw the screenshots on the windows 10 demo websites I thought it really looks gorgeous! Also the start menu on W10 for desktop etc. can ben transparent and looks beautiful and really in sync with W10 for phones because of that.

    Because for lots of us it is ugly. But, more important it changes how things are done in wp. For now you had easy navigation , you've had to pivot/slide or bring bottom navbar to bring options or so. Now, you'll have to reach with your hand (assuming most people are right handed) to far upper left, to choose options and you won't see more than half of your screen. That's just wrong when you had so simple ui.
    Yes you can use it two handed burt is complicated with this.

    However I can survive that hamburger buttom, just if they bring it to the bottom or integrate it in bottom navbar. It would be much easier that way.
    It would be really a shame if the iconic bottom icon/setting bar is going to be removed in the entire UI. I always found it far more intuitive than everything similar on iOS and android in terms of opening settings. already 4 options that were in handy for that page, they can disappear so it takes up less space, and the options can be tapped both left and right on the settings bar, and everything can be operated with one hand because everything is at the bottom on the screen. The Hamburger Menu indeed is a downgrade. I already found it awkward in the new OneDrive app...
    01-22-2015 10:37 AM
  11. TheCudder's Avatar
    Because for lots of us it is ugly. But, more important it changes how things are done in wp. For now you had easy navigation , you've had to pivot/slide or bring bottom navbar to bring options or so. Now, you'll have to reach with your hand (assuming most people are right handed) to far upper left, to choose options and you won't see more than half of your screen. That's just wrong when you had so simple ui.
    Yes you can use it two handed burt is complicated with this.

    However I can survive that hamburger buttom, just if they bring it to the bottom or integrate it in bottom navbar. It would be much easier that way.
    The bottom navigation bar always looks rather "tacky" to me. IE I hate having to tap the refresh button to check mail, pullng down to reresh is a way smoother gesture as you can do it anywhere on the screen. And as for the hamburger icon, this menu is often expanded with a left-to-right swipe in the Android ecosystem. Meaning you don't HAVE to tap the icon. Only issue I would see is if Microsoft decides to implement launching the task view with a left-to-right swipe in Windows Phone. Microsoft is learning to take what has almost become a "standard", and with HTML5 and Google app designs, the hamburger icon is pretty common. And unfortunaltely for Microsoft, they are in no position to try and create their own app layouts and try to say what is and isn't intuituve after the disaster known as Windows 8. A familiar layout may give developers one more reason to go ahead and spend the extra time to port their iOS or Android app over to Windows Phone.

    Also, remember..these apps are meant to truly give a seamless and familiar experience on all devices...including mouse & keyboard desktop users. The hamburger icon is familar to users in other exosystems and essentially functions as a "File" menu for desktop users. This is the best direction Microsoft could possibly take right now.
    Last edited by TheCudder; 01-22-2015 at 12:09 PM.
    01-22-2015 11:51 AM
  12. Dratwister's Avatar
    Just one thing: Will all app tiles be transparent in W10 or just some of them and must be decided by developers?

    I think there should be an option for users to choose to follow developers decision or follow users own tastes. I don't want to keep using Transparent Tiles app >.< Cause that doesn't provide users notification and information on tile :( Not to mention just in a selection of apps
    01-22-2015 12:57 PM
  13. Theayalalalalon's Avatar
    I dislike
    01-22-2015 01:02 PM
  14. dkediger's Avatar
    Frankly, if my Lumia goes from looking like this:
    Attachment 94413
    To looking like this:
    Attachment 94414
    I will be an extremely happy person.
    YES! So much this!

    It brings a lot of "life" to the screen - keeping the tile UI while diminishing the grout....
    01-22-2015 01:14 PM
  15. Ashish Gupta888's Avatar
    Meanwhile, I was thinking about "Burst Tiles" feature that was reported a few days back. Not sure, if its already implemented with W10 build.
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    01-22-2015 01:17 PM
  16. dcpraneeth's Avatar
    Meanwhile, I was thinking about "Burst Tiles" feature that was reported a few days back. Not sure, if its already implemented with W10 build.
    Yeah.. How did I forget this?? Well we've 3 more events to kill, so let time unwrap the surprises.. But we must make a thread dedicated to Archiving all those leaks/rumoured features which never showed up since wp8 . So that we can have a track on things we badly wanted but we managed to forget 'cause of good enough next update :P ..
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    01-22-2015 01:37 PM
  17. rollindice's Avatar
    uhm guys what really is the hamburger button , I think know what it is but didn't know of the name hamburger button
    01-22-2015 01:37 PM
  18. YashHarf's Avatar
    Hamburger type apps are really killing the unique feel of WP OS... I hope Satya Nadella think twice before implimenting such an idea... ๐Ÿ˜
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    01-22-2015 01:40 PM
  19. YashHarf's Avatar
    uhm guys what really is the hamburger button , I think know what it is but didn't know of the name hamburger button
    Go to you OneDrive app and you will see the options menu is on the upper left side of the screen.. Well that's the Hamburger button
    01-22-2015 01:43 PM
  20. rollindice's Avatar
    Go to you OneDrive app and you will see the options menu is on the upper left side of the screen.. Well that's the Hamburger button
    Thanks, didn't know that was the slang/name given for it
    01-22-2015 01:53 PM
  21. DenniSundaY's Avatar
    Hamburger type apps are really killing the unique feel of WP OS... I hope Satya Nadella think twice before implimenting such an idea... ๐Ÿ˜
    I think we are already too late because when looking at the touch version of office (both windows 10 for desktop and phone) you see the hamburger button... I think they are going to implement it in every single (new) app unfortunately.
    01-22-2015 01:53 PM
  22. Ashish Gupta888's Avatar
    Yeah.. How did I forget this?? Well we've 3 more events to kill, so let time unwrap the surprises.. But we must make a thread dedicated to Archiving all those leaks/rumoured features which never showed up since wp8 . So that we can have a track on things we badly wanted but we managed to forget 'cause of good enough next update :P ..
    Yeah, but its a feature that should finally make its way to W10. I hope MS won't disappoint us :-)
    01-22-2015 01:56 PM
  23. YashHarf's Avatar
    I think we are already too late because when looking at the touch version of office (both windows 10 for desktop and phone) you see the hamburger button... I think they are going to implement it in every single (new) app unfortunately.
    Still, we can do something when the PFD is out and they are hearing from Us..
    01-22-2015 02:10 PM
  24. DenniSundaY's Avatar
    Still, we can do something when the PFD is out and they are hearing from Us..
    I really really hope so. But I just saw a few pictures of the OS demo for phones on Neowin and the hamburger button is in every almost app! I really don't like it, looks so much like android... But yeah we just have to see and let or voices be heard!

    Edit: Okay not every app has the hamburger button. After a closer look some apps still gave the 3-dot bottom menu bar or whatever it is being called. But now I'm worried that the UI is really inconsistent and no continuity. But it is a really early build though...
    01-22-2015 03:05 PM
  25. L Beezy's Avatar
    I love how you make it sound like we're fans crying over nothing.

    It has less to do with the fact that it is IOS/Android esque. It's the fact that people fear Windows phone/Windows 10 is losing its identity and the unique aspects that made us choose it over the big two. I can certainly agree and understand that.

    The OS has lost some windows phone 7 qualities to make it more android/IOS like and it is a copycat in some ways...and guess what? Doing so really hasn't done much for people to get one.

    It's less of the IOS/Android thing and more because people actually WANT a unique OS that is different from the others and bringing in enough muscle(aka features) without compromising on its original vision.
    Nothing in my post says that people are "crying over nothing." You make some legitimate points in your post. However, in order to advance as an OS, there will be elements that will be copied--or shall I say emulated--into WP that has been done in iOS and Android....see the Action Center for example. There are people here, however, that despise the hamburger menu for the simple fact that it's on iOS and Android.

    I came to WP for a unique experience as well, and it still delivers even on 8.1. I'm also not afraid to see change as well.
    01-22-2015 03:19 PM
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