01-25-2015 07:22 AM
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  1. chancooluk's Avatar
    I really really hope so. But I just saw a few pictures of the OS demo for phones on Neowin and the hamburger button is in every almost app! I really don't like it, looks so much like android... But yeah we just have to see and let or voices be heard!

    Edit: Okay not every app has the hamburger button. After a closer look some apps still gave the 3-dot bottom menu bar or whatever it is being called. But now I'm worried that the UI is really inconsistent and no continuity. But it is a really early build though...
    The 3 dot icon is called an 'ellipsis'.

    I personally don't like the hamburger icon too much because it always sits at the top of the screen, which is easily the most difficult place to reach on new phones due to the ever increasing size. WP7 had the right idea by keeping the most commonly used controls at the bottom of the screen.

    The same thing is going to happen with the 'Spartan' browser. The address bar will be at the top of the screen instead of the bottom.

    I suppose I will just have to be forced to use my phone with two hands when W10 is released.
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    01-22-2015 03:29 PM
  2. DenniSundaY's Avatar
    The 3 dot icon is called an 'ellipsis'.

    I personally don't like the hamburger icon too much because it always sits at the top of the screen, which is easily the most difficult place to reach on new phones due to the ever increasing size. WP7 had the right idea by keeping the most commonly used controls at the bottom of the screen.

    The same thing is going to happen with the 'Spartan' browser. The address bar will be at the top of the screen instead of the bottom.

    I suppose I will just have to be forced to use my phone with two hands when W10 is released.
    That's exactly what all WP fans think including me haha! Such a shame, WP8 is a blessing for 5" screens, easy one hand operation...
    01-22-2015 03:33 PM
  3. tangledW's Avatar
    This may have already been posted, but this image is from the Insider blog, without a doubt the tiles have transparency.


    01-22-2015 03:33 PM
  4. gwinegarden's Avatar
    The only picture, that I saw, showed a phone with translucent tiles, not transparent.
    01-22-2015 03:41 PM
  5. DenniSundaY's Avatar
    The only picture, that I saw, showed a phone with translucent tiles, not transparent.
    Isn't that almost the exact same thing. Everyone means the same though, that the tiles are "see-trough". Some call it transparent and some translucent. In my native language you can use them both haha.
    01-22-2015 03:46 PM
  6. tangledW's Avatar
    Semantics... but yeah, you're right.

    It was probably the pic I just posted above.
    01-22-2015 03:47 PM
  7. tangledW's Avatar
    There is a fundamental difference though.

    As an example, transparent would be like a clear window pane, while translucent would be more of a frosted or tinted window pane.
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    01-22-2015 03:49 PM
  8. markyjns's Avatar
    Transparency, or whatever we want to call it, for tiles is optional, you choose which you prefer.
    01-22-2015 03:51 PM
  9. Wevenhuis's Avatar
    I think the background wallpaper on the startscreen is overkill. I'm happy to hear now that transparent live tiles will stay with backgound image and paralax. If improvement is needed I would rather like to see the spacing between live tiles smaller and that microsoft makes it easy to make all live tiles transparant, even the third party ones that don't have them activated.
    Arhitecter and techiez like this.
    01-22-2015 03:51 PM
  10. TheCudder's Avatar
    So I guess I guess everyone is going to ignore my post pointing out that in iOS & Android the icon doesn't have to be tapped, instead you can just swipe in from the left side of the screen. I'm sure the functionality will be the same here. WP is not losing it's "ID", and if you think it is...it's all for the hope that WP remains an option.
    01-22-2015 03:51 PM
  11. DenniSundaY's Avatar
    There is a fundamental difference though.

    As an example, transparent would be like a clear window pane, while translucent would be more of a frosted or tinted window pane.
    Yeah okay that's true, but what I was thinking is when it is completely transparent, it isn't really a tile anymore. Or it needs a border... And than it is just a ugly square haha.

    So I guess I guess everyone is going to ignore my post point out that in iOS & Android the icon doesn't have to be tapped, instead you can just swipe in from the left side of the screen.
    That is indeed a good thing, IF it is possible to swipe from the left border on every height, not just where the hamburger button is.
    01-22-2015 03:52 PM
  12. Luigi Lop's Avatar
    i honestly hope i can keep the current behaviour. going to be upset. I hate everything that is not black or text on my phone. it's just meaningless wasted battery.
    Yazen likes this.
    01-22-2015 06:33 PM
  13. SSgt Bruskowiz's Avatar
    Transparent, translucent or whatever.
    I hope they are creating a setting for the opacity so you can change the level of transparency.
    Or the possibility to change the color ( instead of a wallpaper ) and keep the tileoverlay the way it is now.
    Or the possibilty to use a background wallpaper and a tileoverlay, a kind of double paralax effect
    Or perhaps a live wallpaper............

    So many thoughts and possibility's, but they all use valuable resources,
    not only gpu/cpu but also sucks extra juice from your battery.

    But its a ongoing development, just like the hardware of our phones.
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    01-22-2015 07:51 PM
  14. Ma Rio's Avatar
    Great feature! Can't wait to get it on my phone.
    The one thing that I wanted so bad from W10 is cosmetic changes.
    Not 100% satisfied, but hey, it's good enough.
    01-22-2015 09:36 PM
  15. Asik15's Avatar
    Great feature! Can't wait to get it on my phone.
    The one thing that I wanted so bad from W10 is cosmetic changes.
    Not 100% satisfied, but hey, it's good enough.
    Human desires cannot satisfied fully in nature though ... what we have is enough ... even i'm not satisfied :P but we cannot complain :)

    Edit : Sarcasm :P
    Last edited by Asik15; 01-23-2015 at 12:01 AM.
    01-22-2015 10:56 PM
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    01-23-2015 02:48 AM
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    I hope this is NOT the final UI.. looks terrible and very hard to read..
    01-23-2015 04:48 AM
  18. MysticForce's Avatar
    I hope this is NOT the final UI.. looks terrible and very hard to read..
    You can set another colors, background, tile size and so on. So It is stupid to say that looks terrible, this is just one example.
    WP is customizable.
    01-23-2015 05:22 AM
  19. DrewT3's Avatar
    If there is a picture in the background in WP10, what happens when you swipe over to the app list? Does the background fade out or is it behind the text on the app list too? either way sounds ugly.
    01-23-2015 08:12 AM
  20. DenniSundaY's Avatar
    If there is a picture in the background in WP10, what happens when you swipe over to the app list? Does the background fade out or is it behind the text on the app list too? either way sounds ugly.
    If you watch back the demo Joe Belfiore did on the event, you see the app list is white and a little transparent/translucent too, so you still see the background but the whole app list pans over it. Can't really explain it well, so it is better to watch it yourself:P
    01-23-2015 01:15 PM
  21. Shashank Vardhan's Avatar
    If Windows 10 desktop version will also have transparent titles, it will be great in looks.
    01-23-2015 02:18 PM
  22. jwinch2's Avatar
    Isn't that almost the exact same thing. Everyone means the same though, that the tiles are "see-trough". Some call it transparent and some translucent. In my native language you can use them both haha.
    In transparent tiles, the picture renders perfectly while in the translucent ones shown in the pics above, you can make out that there is a picture, but you cannot see the detail through the tiles. I definitely prefer what we have now from a tile standpoint, versus having a background image that you can only vaguely see through the live tiles. Hopefully that remains as an option.
    01-23-2015 07:13 PM
  23. ausidog's Avatar
    I hope so! Sounds like a good idea, IMO.
    01-23-2015 11:51 PM
  24. DenniSundaY's Avatar
    In transparent tiles, the picture renders perfectly while in the translucent ones shown in the pics above, you can make out that there is a picture, but you cannot see the detail through the tiles. I definitely prefer what we have now from a tile standpoint, versus having a background image that you can only vaguely see through the live tiles. Hopefully that remains as an option.
    Yeah but if you can look entirely trough the tiles, it has no borders, thus making it not a tile...
    01-24-2015 02:11 PM
  25. TheCudder's Avatar
    In transparent tiles, the picture renders perfectly while in the translucent ones shown in the pics above, you can make out that there is a picture, but you cannot see the detail through the tiles. I definitely prefer what we have now from a tile standpoint, versus having a background image that you can only vaguely see through the live tiles. Hopefully that remains as an option.
    Either design is dependent upon the background chosen, if you choose a busy background, its going to look tacky and unreadable on either.

    If Windows 10 desktop version will also have transparent titles, it will be great in looks.
    It doesn't appear to be and imo it's better without translucent tiles on the desktop. The translucent start menu however looks great.
    01-24-2015 03:25 PM
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