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  1. anon(5969054)'s Avatar
    I understand they are doing this to align with the universal apps, but it is such a step backwards on windows phone. Look at the email app. You now have to press on the + on the top to make a new email. Goodbye uniqueness of Windows phone with its handy buttons at the bottom.

    Vote here: https://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...-at-the-bottom
    Last edited by crise; 01-22-2015 at 03:12 PM.
    01-21-2015 02:33 PM
  2. ven07's Avatar
    The best thing about the current way MS is doing business, is that users actually have an input. If there's sth you don't like or agree with then head over to the uservoice sites, but I would recommend waiting, giving it a chance and trying it out personally before jumping on the "I don't like this bandwagon". What we've seen today could change along the way :)
    01-21-2015 02:46 PM
  3. TuxedoST's Avatar
    Fully agree. I'm hoping that it was shown in this form only because they haven't really finished setting them up for the phone UI yet. *crosses fingers*
    01-21-2015 02:48 PM
  4. theefman's Avatar
    I presume Microsoft is doing this to accommodate non WP users who are used to similar layout on their droids and bendyphones when they use Windows 10 on their PC's. Its unfortunate, definitely and as a 1520 user I'm not looking forward to such changes but hopefully they will still maintain enough of WP's DNA that it wont lose its unique look and feel.
    Slawootsky and hcrick like this.
    01-21-2015 02:58 PM
  5. raphok's Avatar
    holy crap



    anon(8150199), LLPO and Plazma1 like this.
    01-21-2015 03:06 PM
  6. DoctorSaline's Avatar
    Tbh, it sucks but they can be updated for UI refresh for phones/tablets since they are all gonna be store apps now. Or that is what I'm hoping.
    01-21-2015 03:10 PM
  7. mortici's Avatar
    01-21-2015 03:15 PM
  8. DoctorSaline's Avatar
    Also, didn't anyone ever gave them this idea of putting the top ribbon in ellipses at the bottom and use them all as staircase steps to bring them up with multiple taps on 3 dot menu. And put the typography based Titles on top like they used to have with WP7.5. Both of these could vanish as soon as user starts scrolling.
    01-21-2015 03:15 PM
  9. ven07's Avatar
    since they are all gonna be store apps now
    Yes that was the basic idea. Updating individual apps is easier and beats pushing out an update for just one system app
    01-21-2015 03:17 PM
  10. DoctorSaline's Avatar
    Yes that was the basic idea. Updating individual apps is easier and beats pushing out an update for just one system app
    Oh! I knew they would all be updateable. I'm just not sure about MS taking Modern design seriously with their own apps and services. We are seeing them increasingly using top ribbons and hamburger menues for their apps and services and this is frightening.
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    01-21-2015 03:20 PM
  11. Mike Waechter's Avatar
    The ribbon has been there long before the windows phone. The only metro interface was the Zune, and it failed miserably. I for one welcome the ribbon style.
    01-21-2015 03:35 PM
  12. SteveNoza's Avatar
    I like it! It's more stable using the phone one handed using top buttons instead of scrunching down using the current bottom buttons. Put the virtual back, windows and search buttons up there too. Or better yet use gestures like BB10.
    01-21-2015 03:56 PM
  13. Musicman247's Avatar
    Or you could just say, "Hey Cortana, send an email" and not worry about the buttons anymore. : )
    ven07, Eas195, idokamaroq and 4 others like this.
    01-21-2015 04:02 PM
  14. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I like it! It's more stable using the phone one handed using top buttons instead of scrunching down using the current bottom buttons. Put the virtual back, windows and search buttons up there too. Or better yet use gestures like BB10.

    I don't like buttons on top, because how are you supposed to see what you're typing?
    Last edited by Laura Knotek; 01-21-2015 at 09:26 PM.
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    01-21-2015 04:09 PM
  15. dawindbag's Avatar
    The best thing about the current way MS is doing business, is that users actually have an input. If there's sth you don't like or agree with then head over to the uservoice sites, but I would recommend waiting, giving it a chance and trying it out personally before jumping on the "I don't like this bandwagon". What we've seen today could change along the way :)
    Hasn't worked with OneDrive. This is the new way forward, and now it's at the expense of all our thumbs.

    The reason is because MS needs to lure app developers from iOS and Android and it's easier to port an app when the UX can be the same across platforms, but it's going to be terrible for users. Unfortunately iOS and Apple have made this the standard and it's too late for Android and Windows to change it, we're all screwed.
    blackdaemon and uros2404 like this.
    01-21-2015 04:29 PM
  16. Jakoh's Avatar
    This was the only reason why the Lumia 1520 was so much better than Iphone 6 Plus, because on the Iphone you have to reach to the top left all the time to move back inside the applications. On a big screen phone thats a Huge challenge.
    01-21-2015 04:31 PM
  17. Albany Park's Avatar
    Why not have buttons at both the top and bottom? With the option to hide the bottom ones perhaps?
    wphashan likes this.
    01-21-2015 06:21 PM
  18. LuvMeSomeWP's Avatar
    Or how about it's a system wide config to choose top or bottom positioned layout...
    01-21-2015 06:52 PM
  19. RJ Priest's Avatar
    Or how about it's a system wide config to choose top or bottom positioned layout...
    THIS!!!

    Hopefully our user input can help change things for the better between the preview and final releases. WP8 got so many things right, and I would hate to see the usability of the OS take a huge step backward.

    Please give us the option for the "..." menu along the bottom of the screen as we've had in WP8. Perfect!
    heat 33330 likes this.
    01-21-2015 06:58 PM
  20. LLPO's Avatar
    I posted something similar in the hamburger thread, here's a snippet:

    The annoying thing is that they've forgotten what was good about the current WP design principles:
    1. Functions at the bottom, near your fingers, where the screen can't be covered
    2. Iconography with easily accessible captions (non-IT people hate guessing what a button will do)
    3. An elegant solution for showing some functions and hiding others (hamburger menus hide or show everything at once)

    8 ways to tell if your mobile app sucks | Pocketnow

    https://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...-use-hamburger
    Vote if you don't like the regression of the Modern UI!
    01-21-2015 07:39 PM
  21. tiziano27's Avatar
    This not only make the UI consistent with other platforms, It also make the phone UI consistent with the PC UI for Universal apps, making possible to reuse most of the UI elements. The cost of developing for the platform is reduced, it's a good decision.
    TheCudder likes this.
    01-21-2015 09:01 PM
  22. James8561's Avatar
    Yea this is gonna reduce usability of windows phablet unless they introduce something like apple reachability. But even then that's a solution to a problem they created
    a5cent likes this.
    01-22-2015 01:45 AM
  23. aerosidinc's Avatar
    but wp has dedicated back button so somewhat easier
    01-22-2015 02:14 AM
  24. jjag520's Avatar
    This! Why does it have a back button at the top left when WP already has a back (capacitive/on-screen) button. This looks tailored for iOS tbh.

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    01-22-2015 02:34 AM
  25. idokamaroq's Avatar
    Didn't Meyerson or Belfiore explicitly say that the presence and location of these could change as the OS evolves to it's completed state? I was only half paying attention to the stream because it was during my CS lecture, but I'm pretty sure I heard that.
    ByeVanno and ven07 like this.
    01-22-2015 03:05 AM
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