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  1. rhapdog's Avatar
    When I hand my phone to my friends, they don't look through my stuff. That's because it's rude to snoop through peoples stuff.
    That's why I mentioned it is most likely parents. Parents WILL snoop.
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    03-12-2015 08:58 PM
  2. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    Well tell me
    After you unlock your phone if someone grabs it what will you do?
    You are browsing and you find a funny video, you want to show it to your friend but don't want to give the phone to him as he will check out your pictures or messages after he finishes watching, what will you do then?

    Well all i know is it will be optional as many don't use this feature as well as many want this feature
    I guess the real question is: How poorly do you choose your friends that you're scared of what will happen if they hold your phone?
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    03-13-2015 01:06 AM
  3. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    That's why I mentioned it is most likely parents. Parents WILL snoop.
    Perhaps, but if parents want, they can also ground you or threaten to take your phone if you use that kind of stuff. Their house, their rules and all, even if you don't like it. While some parents are too paranoid to trust their kids, some kid also shouldn't be trusted to the point of not having adult supervision over social media access and the like.
    sahib lopez likes this.
    03-13-2015 01:08 AM
  4. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    That's why I mentioned it is most likely parents. Parents WILL snoop.
    Perhaps, but if parents want, they can also ground you or threaten to take your phone if you use that kind of stuff. Their house, their rules and all, even if you don't like it. While some parents are too paranoid to trust their kids, some kid also shouldn't be trusted to the point of not having adult supervision over social media access and the like.
    03-13-2015 01:08 AM
  5. techiez's Avatar
    I guess the real question is: How poorly do you choose your friends that you're scared of what will happen if they hold your phone?
    Its this kind of attitude that hurts WP, some may not use an app lock but it indeed a required and widely used feature, whats wrong in giving a choice. many are concerned for their privacy, your colleague may want to check out your phone but you dont want him to checkout whatsapp or photos hub. this is a practically valid situation may be few are immune to it or dont care abt it but the situation remains valid and has to be addressed via an applock
    03-13-2015 03:11 AM
  6. techiez's Avatar
    OneDrive and Telegram messenger ,have been updated with pin lock. Maybe more will follow.
    LINE messenger had it since WP7.5 days, wonder why others devs never chose to adopt this.
    03-13-2015 03:12 AM
  7. ShreyansShah's Avatar
    There wasn't any confirmation on this fact! However you can post this in uservoice requesting the feature!
    it apparently confirmed. there is a post on uservoice regarding this and has a good response with votes.
    03-13-2015 05:20 AM
  8. pankaj981's Avatar
    I don't think Microsoft would do much here. Every app would have it's own sandboxed state which no app developer would like Microsoft to have control on. Plus Microsoft cannot test each and every app to test whether this functionally would work as expected or not. In fact app developers should start enabling this feature within their own apps since Microsoft already allows it.
    03-13-2015 08:14 AM
  9. Kaushik Banerjee's Avatar
    it apparently confirmed. there is a post on uservoice regarding this and has a good response with votes.
    That doesn't necessary mean they confirmed that they will bring the feature...the OP wanted to know wether win 10 will bring app lock support! Even if they confirmed it, they did not specifically say that it would come with win 10!

    I know its a very demanding feature with lots of votes but you have to understand that features often depend on OS limitations ! Now I am not saying app lock falls under the limitations but it would be quite a long term work in bringing such a reqquested feature, and of course it would be a matter of time!
    If you look at the uservoice you cant surely understand call recording is also a much requested feature garnering lots of votes everyday! But why are they not being implemented in the build ? The thing is legal issues! Same way there are many issues which may be quite difficult to implement and the problems faced only developers will know! Anyways if the feature will be announced as an optional feature sure it would satisfy windows phone fans both for and against the feature..only time will tell.!
    03-13-2015 09:10 AM
  10. Ishmam Ishtiaque's Avatar
    i would really love a feature added on w10, like the private mode on my S5. protects photos, videos and even messages, that i don't want people to see. and the best part is it's built into the OS. so doesn't eat up battery life
    03-13-2015 09:37 AM
  11. Kaushik Banerjee's Avatar
    i would really love a feature added on w10, like the private mode on my S5. protects photos, videos and even messages, that i don't want people to see. and the best part is it's built into the OS. so doesn't eat up battery life
    Then you must look up for the feature on the uservoice page and support it with votes !
    03-13-2015 09:43 AM
  12. beman39's Avatar
    I don't understand peoples reasoning for having trouble with people for wanting a lock app to protect their pics and whatever else they want, everyone takes pictures with their phones and sometimes they take private sexy pictures because that's FUN FOR THEM and nothing is wrong with that! but telling people what they should/shouldn't do with their phones is none of your business! yes your friends shouldn't be snooping in your phone but that's what friends sometime do to "bug" each other and doesn't make them a "bad friend" just snoops. if people want an app that protects those photos then why not? if people wanna take racy pics for posterity reasons then that's fine too... we all have a right to protect our privacy which is being taken away slowly but surely!! or more faster than we would like for some lol
    03-13-2015 12:31 PM
  13. sahib lopez's Avatar
    nah it would just add more bloat to the system and don't see a need for something kinda useless..that's my take
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    03-13-2015 02:54 PM
  14. Yazen's Avatar
    In my L520 it lags! My friends keep asking my phone to check out the OS and i want to give them but i dont want them to check my Whatsapp and Pictures. In apps corner and kids corner u cant get the full OS experience! Instead of these setting they could have added just one app lock setting
    I can see why applock is important to you. However, if I were you I would also be concerned as to why I am not comfortable sharing my phone with friends/family :P

    Same goes for me....don't need app lock , even if app lock arrives it has to run in background in real time which would consume a lot of battery juice...so happy without it...
    Depending on Microsoft's implementation this could be true. However, it is trivial to implement a solution that would not drain battery, nor would need to run in the background :)


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    1. Microsoft already has quiet hours implemented
    2. Microsoft already has a lockscreen implemented
    3. Microsoft already has kids corner implemented


    With these three points in mind, there is no reason why there could not be an "applock".


    • Have a setting that lists apps to "lock".
    • Require a pin to open/resume the selected app(s)
    • If pin is incorrect, do not open app or keep the app suspended.
    • Hide new notifications when an app is locked


    Should not be any noticeable performance impact!
    03-13-2015 08:16 PM
  15. Bryon Burns's Avatar
    Considering AppLock itself and all others are third party, including Sammys version. I don't think it should be OS integrated. The service would hook and constantly poll app launches. This also goes against the sandbox approach the OS has taken, as malware could use these hooks to launch itself or to monitor user input. As I voiced earlier, this should be fine on an app by app basis, but leave it up to the developer to implement as it would only be a single call at startup to check if pin is enabled and then prompt for it, same goes for notifications. Android is too lax on security when it comes to ipc and app isolation.
    03-14-2015 04:03 AM
  16. Yazen's Avatar
    Considering AppLock itself and all others are third party, including Sammys version. I don't think it should be OS integrated. The service would hook and constantly poll app launches. This also goes against the sandbox approach the OS has taken, as malware could use these hooks to launch itself or to monitor user input. As I voiced earlier, this should be fine on an app by app basis, but leave it up to the developer to implement as it would only be a single call at startup to check if pin is enabled and then prompt for it, same goes for notifications. Android is too lax on security when it comes to ipc and app isolation.
    Not immediately seeing how an applock would be an obvious security threat. Maybe my idea of an applock is radically different lol.

    Adding another XML attribute for an applock is trivial.
    Would only take an extra call to determine if an app is locked.
    Have a pin code similar to wallet in order to kick app out of suspend/open app.

    I think it would be cool to have a little toggle in the corner of suspended apps to have them placed into a locked state.

    Even files can be "locked". Let OS govern permissions and release an API similar to the one used for OneDrive/Facebook/Twitter/etc

    I don't need applock, but I would not mind having the feature if it is thought out and implemented well
    03-14-2015 07:35 PM
  17. a5cent's Avatar
    ^ It's not a security "threat". It's just not security.

    Give me any kids Android phone, that is trying to use an applocker to protect their pron collection from their parents, and in 9 out of 10 cases I'll have access to all of it in under 5 minutes.

    It's fake security. What makes it seem like security is only the ignorance of those using it or those failing to bypass it.
    03-15-2015 04:25 AM
  18. Kaushik Banerjee's Avatar
    ^ It's not a security "threat". It's just not security.

    Give me any kids Android phone, that is trying to use an applocker to protect their pron collection from their parents, and in 9 out of 10 cases I'll have access to all of it in under 5 minutes.

    It's fake security. What makes it seem like security is only the ignorance of those using it or those failing to bypass it.
    Rightly said....they promise fake security! Long pressing on the app locker uninstalls the app, in that case no one can say a phone is secure...the best security is obviously common sense...!
    03-15-2015 06:24 AM
  19. Torcher Death's Avatar
    An app locker that works would be a welcome addition, though feel that Apps/Kids corner does this well enough... but I for one, don't have stuff worth hiding from people (My life is an open book) & being a lazy person don't even use the pin lock unless am going to any crowded places, cause I find it too tedious to type in the pin every single time.
    03-15-2015 06:41 AM
  20. Yazen's Avatar
    ^ It's not a security "threat". It's just not security.

    Give me any kids Android phone, that is trying to use an applocker to protect their pron collection from their parents, and in 9 out of 10 cases I'll have access to all of it in under 5 minutes.

    It's fake security. What makes it seem like security is only the ignorance of those using it or those failing to bypass it.
    Not sure I follow. Neither Burns nor I were referring to Android in any way lol.

    Windows Phone gives users little freedom in modifying system resources.
    An "Applock" that can be enabled in settings is feasible, and would have a negligible performance impact.
    Could have an action centre toggle that locks everything of concern :)

    I personally do not even have a pin on my phone, and would probably never need this feature.
    Noticed teenagers in general request this sort of feature :P
    03-15-2015 10:30 AM
  21. Kaushik Banerjee's Avatar
    Not sure I follow. Neither Burns nor I were referring to Android in any way lol.

    Windows Phone gives users little freedom in modifying system resources.
    An "Applock" that can be enabled in settings is feasible, and would have a negligible performance impact.
    Could have an action centre toggle that locks everything of concern :)

    I personally do not even have a pin on my phone, and would probably never need this feature.
    Noticed teenagers in general request this sort of feature :P
    Same here...never use the pin lock even.....but implementing it as a optional feature is always a welcome addition...at least it would be able to save those teenagers...lol...feel sorry for them anyway..๐Ÿ˜‚
    03-15-2015 10:48 AM
  22. a5cent's Avatar
    ^ Android is the only system I've used an apps locker on, so it's my only frame of reference. I suspect that for most asking for an apps locker, that is no different. It's basically saying: "give me this thing I'm familiar with from using Android".

    However, that's not my point. My point is that it's fake security, or at least very brittle security, on any system. Android, iOS or WP. The whole concept is fundamentally flawed. It doesn't exist because it's a good idea, but because that is what the existing APIs on Android allowed devs to make.
    03-15-2015 10:50 AM
  23. Yazen's Avatar
    Same here...never use the pin lock even.....but implementing it as a optional feature is always a welcome addition...at least it would be able to save those teenagers...lol...feel sorry for them anyway..๐Ÿ˜‚
    All of their social interactivity is done in front of a slab of glass.
    Need to feel for the new generation haha

    I wonder how if the 635 would sell like hotcakes if there were an "applock".... Oh wait, no selfie cam :PPP
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    03-15-2015 10:56 AM
  24. Yazen's Avatar
    ^ Android is the only system I've used an apps locker on, so it's my only frame of reference. I suspect that for most asking for an apps locker, that is no different. It's basically saying: "give me this thing I'm familiar with from using Android".

    However, that's not my point. My point is that it's fake security, or at least very brittle security, on any system. Android, iOS or WP. The whole concept is fundamentally flawed. It doesn't exist because it's a good idea, but because that is what the existing APIs on Android allowed devs to make.

    I would want to avoid software that is misusing APIs, but it seems to me that there is popular demand for an app locker on any platform.

    App locking actually might be a good selling point since Microsoft is racing to the bottom.

    Even for files - Imagine an API similar to OneDrive in the photos app. Can have photos/videos stored with special permission modifiers, encrypted, etc.

    Or people with internet could just upload to OneDrive, add pin, delete photos from device XD
    03-15-2015 11:09 AM
  25. henocksandy's Avatar
    The main point is many of them need this feature, if MS needs those people to buy WP then they have to give this feature.
    03-15-2015 11:09 AM
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