1. Motor_Mouth's Avatar
    From what I've seen, W10 for phones seems to be becoming more like Android, in that they have swapped this kind of design/layout -

    7c97_4weather_0.jpg

    - for a menu-driven layout like Android, where the pages are all separate and you have to click on the menu button, choose a page, then click on the menu button again to choose the next page, then click on the menu button again to choose the next page, etc., instead of smoothly swiping through to the page you want. Is this basically what's happening or am I misreading the screenshots I've seen? Because I've got a few apps that work like that and I hate them, to the point that I almost always end up uninstalling them.
    920Walker likes this.
    03-15-2015 10:54 PM
  2. raycpl's Avatar
    One of the best advice to new users embracing WP was "forget all you know about your Android/IOS"... now we can't even say that anymore.. sigh!!!
    03-15-2015 11:27 PM
  3. Motor_Mouth's Avatar
    So nobody can answer this question? It's pretty basic, I'd have thought.
    03-16-2015 08:17 PM
  4. a5cent's Avatar
    Yes. It appears so. The idea hasn't been very popular however, so MS may rethink some of this.
    There are a lot of threads discussing this. Here's a small selection:
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...y-windows.html
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...hamburger.html
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...rger-menu.html
    Last edited by a5cent; 03-17-2015 at 04:05 AM.
    03-16-2015 08:48 PM
  5. Slovenix's Avatar
    It's not becoming like Android. Android is better than that.

    Kitkat could be debated, but Lolipop with material design is something different.

    Anyways they will keep swiping, same thing on Android now.
    03-16-2015 09:04 PM
  6. JamesDax's Avatar
    No. How many more of these stupid Windows Phone becoming Android post must we suffer?
    raycpl likes this.
    03-16-2015 09:10 PM
  7. Spectrum90's Avatar
    Yes. It appears so. The idea hasn't been very popular however, so maybe MS may be rethinking some of this.
    How's not popular? Android is the most popular thing since the beatles.
    03-16-2015 11:11 PM
  8. Slovenix's Avatar
    03-17-2015 01:40 AM
  9. white_Shadoww's Avatar


    Yes.. I don't know how silly Microsoft can be. Google took clues from Windows Metro and headed in the right direction. And MS is copying what Android used to be, heading in the wrong direction. Why? Just plain silly in my opinion. First they designed the best UI and when everyone is following them, they are doing something silly. How confused are they!!
    920Walker, Kram Sacul and Slovenix like this.
    03-17-2015 01:55 AM
  10. Motor_Mouth's Avatar
    No. How many more of these stupid Windows Phone becoming Android post must we suffer?
    It was a simple question, that's all.
    920Walker likes this.
    03-23-2015 05:31 AM
  11. Motor_Mouth's Avatar
    Just plain silly in my opinion. First they designed the best UI and when everyone is following them, they are doing something silly. How confused are they!!
    It's not the first time, look what they did with Zune - they took what was far and away the best music ecosystem and flushed it down the toilet in favour of X-Box Music, which is measurably worse in every way.
    03-23-2015 05:35 AM
  12. Praxius's Avatar
    From what I've seen, W10 for phones seems to be becoming more like Android, in that they have swapped this kind of design/layout -

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    - for a menu-driven layout like Android, where the pages are all separate and you have to click on the menu button, choose a page, then click on the menu button again to choose the next page, then click on the menu button again to choose the next page, etc., instead of smoothly swiping through to the page you want. Is this basically what's happening or am I misreading the screenshots I've seen? Because I've got a few apps that work like that and I hate them, to the point that I almost always end up uninstalling them.
    Despite this discussion being beaten to death already in a number of threads, to sum up:

    Some apps will continue to use the swipe effect.
    Some apps will start using the drop down / slide out menu system (ie: Hamburger Menu)
    Both menus have their pros and cons.
    The Swipe Menu (Metro) can be annoying when you can't jump to the section you want but instead have to swipe through multiple sections before you get where you want to go. This gets worse the more sections there are.
    The Drop Down/Slide Out Menu can be annoying for some people due to positioning on larger screens or as you described, Click Menu Click Section.

    I personally don't care which menu system is in place.

    The Swipe system is in many of my existing apps, but the hamburger menu is in many others I use too (Cortana, Facebook App, Many Web Sites in Mobile Version including the Windows Central Web Site)

    I am used to both styles despite their equal disadvantages.
    manicottiK likes this.
    03-23-2015 07:48 AM
  13. TheCudder's Avatar
    ...you have to click on the menu button, choose a page, then click on the menu button again to choose the next page, then click on the menu button again to choose the next page, etc., instead of smoothly swiping through to the page you want...
    The same comment can be made for pivots. WP apps like Mint, Rhapsody and MSN Money cause me to swipe through, 4 or 5 menu pages that I don't need to see in order to view the one that I want to. In such a case, I would MUCH rather tap a menu icon and then directly select the page I want to see.
    03-23-2015 11:02 AM
  14. Praxius's Avatar
    The same comment can be made for pivots. WP apps like Mint, Rhapsody and MSN Money cause me to swipe through, 4 or 5 menu pages that I don't need to see in order to view the one that I want to. In such a case, I would MUCH rather tap a menu icon and then directly select the page I want to see.
    Indeed. While the pivot system looks pretty and I liked it the first time I used them on my Lumia 800, the system is not overly productive.
    03-23-2015 07:25 PM
  15. Motor_Mouth's Avatar
    I'd suggest that is more about poor app design than the fault of pivots. If you have too many pages for comfortable swiping, then you find a better way to do it. Maybe you put some things into the ellipsis menu or have expanding sections that scroll vertically? There are plenty of options. The app I use the most, Weather & Surf Australia, had five panels, do a maximum of three swipes to get to any of them, but the last one is simply called "extras" and it has buttons for another 4 pages of info that you are less likely to use regularly. Once you go into one of those pages, it just gets added as an extra pivot for that session. It's a very handy layout.

    The ones that really annoy me, though, are the ones where you can use the hamburger menu to get to a page but you have to use the back button to get out of it.
    05-13-2015 01:15 AM
  16. saras112's Avatar
    It's down to the developer. I think no one is forcing you to make Android-style apps in Windows 10. They can continue the same Windows Phone 7/8 design.
    05-13-2015 01:20 AM
  17. Motor_Mouth's Avatar
    Sure but the vast majority of things I do in my phone are Microsoft made things. I only use one or two third party apps on anything like a regular basis.
    05-13-2015 08:14 PM

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