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  1. 12Danny123's Avatar
    I mean look at the notification centre from WP8.1 everybody hated it and wanted it to go away and look at it now. Its a tool that everybody uses. Same with the UI with Windows 10. Everybody hates the new UI for Windows 10 for phones.

    The OS is also for small tablets, putting a full screen date and time pickers makes NO sense whatsoever. have you guys thought about them? Of course not

    Get over it guys, Metro UI lost. Its out of date and no longer acceptable to have the same UI for a long time, let alone years what MS did

    Do you agree we WP fans are clinging to the past and not letting WP evolve the way it's supposed to?

    PS this is all my opinion. So judge all you want
    Last edited by 12Danny123; 04-10-2015 at 04:59 AM.
    04-09-2015 01:23 PM
  2. F3rzz's Avatar
    I remember exactly two people that hated the action center...
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    04-09-2015 01:31 PM
  3. 12Danny123's Avatar
    I remember exactly two people that hated the action center...
    Actually. Quite a lot of people hated it and wanted MS to stick with live tiles and the result....... People loving the feature
    Nicholas Maguire and Dk92 like this.
    04-09-2015 01:35 PM
  4. alex athanasopoulos's Avatar
    I am all in favor of the w10 changes. Bring it MSFT.

    I can't wait to install officially the tp to my L920
    04-09-2015 01:36 PM
  5. Nicholas Maguire's Avatar
    I feel the same. Bring on the changes, Microsoft! I don't want my OS to be the same for years!
    Jazmac likes this.
    04-09-2015 01:41 PM
  6. theefman's Avatar
    I mean look at the notification centre from WP8.1 everybody hated it and wanted it to go away and look at it now. Its a tool that everybody uses. Same with the UI with Windows 10. Everybody hates the new UI for Windows 10 for phones.

    The OS is also for small tablets, putting a full screen date and time pickers makes NO sense whatsoever. have you guys thought about them? Of course not

    Get over it guys, Metro UI lost. Its out of date and no longer acceptable to have the same UI for a long time, let alone years what MS did

    Do you agree we WP fans are clinging to the past and not letting WP evolve the way it's supposed to?
    So having a preference for a truly unique UI is clinging to the past? Personally I don't see anything in the Windows 10 UI that makes it better than WP as it is now, its more or less similar to android and IOS. Not sure what your comment re tablets means but the current Windows 8 UI actually works well on tablets, in case you didn't know.

    As for holding anything back, well its not as though they actually listen to feedback so that's neither here nor there.
    04-09-2015 01:42 PM
  7. ashram's Avatar
    never heard of anyone hating the action center. i loved it from day 1. i get some changes are needed, and there's a learning curve that people don't want to bother with.... but spend the 5 minutes and see how awesome many of the changes can be :)
    ven07 likes this.
    04-09-2015 01:43 PM
  8. xandros9's Avatar
    I liked the NC, and I don't remember much backlash at all, except for maybe people hoping for something more unique/smarter.

    Fun fact: (I've pulled this out before)
    People hated Windows XP, the situation then is a parallel to 8 today actually.
    Dumb start menu, fisher price toy theme, etc. why do that? Windows 2000 worked just fine! I'll stick with 2000!

    etc.
    04-09-2015 01:43 PM
  9. TheCudder's Avatar
    I always thought it was hilarious that people would say "we don't need a notification center, we have live tiles!". A proper notification center is way more effective than a square flipping through random information that changes before you can even read it. "Live tiles" are good for information "at a glance", nothing else.
    04-09-2015 04:08 PM
  10. Slovenix's Avatar
    I'm ready to leave Livetiles for Desktop UI on my Phone lol.. :D
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    04-09-2015 04:16 PM
  11. 3earnhardt3's Avatar
    To each his own, I am not a fan of the notification center. I don't hate it, I just don't find it terribly useful for my purposes. However, I acknowledge that without it there is no hope of stealing market share from the Goog. With that said, I am willing to give up any and all metro features for a more intuitive, powerful and efficient OS. Microsoft's market share is so miniscule that they can't afford to remain stagnant, they have to keep innovating until they hit the "it" feature that Android/iOS can't simply copy.
    04-09-2015 07:11 PM
  12. Ashalinia's Avatar
    Yeah let's dump this metro garbage for TouchWiz, who's with me!!?
    snowmutt, Makubex1980 and forked like this.
    04-09-2015 08:10 PM
  13. Ma Rio's Avatar
    I didn't like the Notification Center. I still don't like it and I think it's just a copy of all the other notification centers.
    It could have been done way better.

    And just look at the toggle buttons, they make me wanna throw up.
    Bad design, very limited amount of them (only 4 on 95% of the phones).
    Bad, bad, bad.
    However I still use them, I can't deny that.
    I use both the toggles and the notification center quite often.

    The same goes for Windows 10. They keep saying 'This isn't final, there's still work to be done, this is just a preview', but I know a lot of bad stuff will stick.
    04-09-2015 08:14 PM
  14. psudotechzealot's Avatar
    I mean look at the notification centre from WP8.1 everybody hated it and wanted it to go away and look at it now. Its a tool that everybody uses.
    Ah, I remember this. Good times.

    Do you agree we WP fans are clinging to the past and not letting WP evolve the way it's supposed to?
    Nah, not in 2015.
    snowmutt likes this.
    04-09-2015 08:51 PM
  15. Tumultus's Avatar
    Maybe I just remember it wrong but wasn't it the WP users in first place that requested the notification center for years?
    Last edited by Tumultus; 04-09-2015 at 11:32 PM.
    04-09-2015 09:42 PM
  16. vsmh96's Avatar
    The other side of the coin maybe when users trash each other. Eg: Oh Lumia is better than your HTC/Samsung. Like seriously, aren't we all in this together? Yeah, sure each phone has it's own advantage and cons but nah why trash your own kind just because its a different brand? They buyer made a choice, and its theirs to keep. Some users have also grown to be the bitter old man, which is understandable, given what Google does with YouTube. Kik,Snap chat, Instagram, banks ect ect abandoned us and some of us feel left out. They trash on everything, oh the update is going to take forever, and other pessimistic ways of thinking.
    Last edited by vsmh; 04-14-2015 at 04:31 AM.
    04-09-2015 09:55 PM
  17. fatclue_98's Avatar
    As I remember it, early WP7 users like me were bashing iOS for the same boring UI year after year. Now here we are 5 years into Metro and some folks don't want it to change? If in 5 years the Metro experience didn't catch on, maybe it's time to try something new. If a fresh approach finally brings in new users, I'd call it a necessary evil.
    04-09-2015 10:10 PM
  18. jmshub's Avatar
    I'll admit that I was not a fan of a notification center for Windows Phone, but I feel that they did a good job with the Action Center. They managed to implement a system that was useful, but still kept to the UI and UX of WinPhone. The entire user experience of Windows Phone has been a give and take relationship between getting features that iOS and Android have, but also remaining unique. It is amazing to look at Windows Phone 8.1 Update 1 and see how far it has gone from Windows Phone 7, despite a non-WP user seeing a phone with large, brightly colored tiles.
    04-09-2015 10:33 PM
  19. 12Danny123's Avatar
    As I remember it, early WP7 users like me were bashing iOS for the same boring UI year after year. Now here we are 5 years into Metro and some folks don't want it to change? If in 5 years the Metro experience didn't catch on, maybe it's time to try something new. If a fresh approach finally brings in new users, I'd call it a necessary evil.
    I agree. I think its time for a refresh in the design. Having the same design language for years is not a good thing. So I think its good that Microsoft changed the UI for Windows 10
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    04-09-2015 10:49 PM
  20. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    As I remember it, early WP7 users like me were bashing iOS for the same boring UI year after year. Now here we are 5 years into Metro and some folks don't want it to change? If in 5 years the Metro experience didn't catch on, maybe it's time to try something new. If a fresh approach finally brings in new users, I'd call it a necessary evil.
    Most often I would agree with this statement, but it ignores the elephant in the room. It seems to support Microsoft moving towards the old design language of the other OS's, the language the other OS's themselves are moving away from. Copying old ideas like, for instance the hamburger, on the hope that it would be seen as familiar, (rather than old). Microsoft seems to be copying inconsistent random UI ideas rather than innovating further, the existing innovative Modern UI and maintaining a clear and consistent UI.

    Apple computer OS has 6% market share worldwide. Do they panic, and change their UI to copy goggle and Microsoft? No, they stick to their principals and grow and extend their UI to make it better. They don't change their UI to copy others. Normally I don't have much good to say about Apple, but I respect them, for this.

    That all said, let's hope for the best.
    Last edited by Kevin Rush; 04-10-2015 at 12:12 AM.
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    04-09-2015 11:39 PM
  21. Slovenix's Avatar
    Whatever there is, I would much rather see them go with their own design language of some kind instead of making it look like everything else (while others are moving forward). Creativity.. Why not improve swiping, gestures instead.. Give me that "Wow' effect when it comes out :P

    And please "It looks like Android".., Seriously it doesn't. Material design is way better and works like a charm. And they are moving away from Hamburgers. So please, that statement is so old that you must get over it. XD

    Funny thing, they use pivots and dots ! :)
    04-10-2015 12:08 AM
  22. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Most often I would agree with this statement, but it ignores the elephant in the room. It seems to support Microsoft moving towards the old design language of the other OS's, the language the other OS's themselves are moving away from. Copying old ideas like, for instance the hamburger, on the hope that it would be seen as familiar, (rather than old). Microsoft seems to be copying inconsistent random UI ideas rather than innovating further, the existing innovative Modern UI and maintaining a clear and consistent UI.

    Apple computer OS has 6% market share worldwide. Do they panic, and change their UI to copy goggle and Microsoft? No, they stick to their principals and grow and extend their UI to make it better. They don't change their UI to copy others. Normally I don't have much good to say about Apple, but I respect them, for this.

    That all said, let's hope for the best.
    The thing is, Microsoft needs to have a UI that people will be easily able to adapt to. Given that Windows Phone has a small market share compared to Android and iOS means that most new Windows Phone users will be coming from Android or iOS, not folks who never had a smartphone.

    A totally different UI will only confuse people and turn them off.

    I remember when I tried BlackBerry Z10 for the first time in a T-Mobile store shortly after it was released. I spent about 15 minutes fumbling around, since I had no clue how the gestures worked. I had no issues using iPhones/Androids at that time, even though I never owned either back in 2012. Eventually, I just put the BlackBerry Z10 down, and I never picked one up again. I wasn't new to smartphones, and I wasn't even new to BlackBerry (I used legacy BBOS devices from 2009-2012).

    Something too different has a danger of being too unfamiliar and driving away potential customers, rather than attracting them.
    04-10-2015 12:44 AM
  23. James8561's Avatar
    I agree. Some WP fans make fun of other OS (mostly iOS) for having the same GUI year after year, yet whenever WP get new GUI they are up in arms about it. The irony
    04-10-2015 01:42 AM
  24. snowmutt's Avatar
    I honestly do not think for one second WP users are holding back WP at all.

    If you want to be honest, WP7 was technically a sales flop. Period. Windows Mobile devices were STILL outselling WP 7 devices when WP 8 was announced. It took Nokia coming on board to change that.

    WP 8 was announced, and sales improved. WP 8 was a serious step up, and if I am right I was among the last of the regulars on this site to put away the WP7 and get a WP8.

    WP 8.1 was announced, and again we all got excited. Sales -particularly in Europe and to a lesser degree India, and mostly on the low end devices- continued small but noticeable improvements.

    I expect the same in Windows 10. What that tells me is the improvements are driving sales. If we were really "holding things back", wouldn't we all still be rocking Nokia 900's??
    04-10-2015 02:33 AM
  25. Yazen's Avatar
    Their implementation of a notification tray is terrible.

    If they are going to change the UI design, at least make the OS more practical to use. When MyTube and Readit sport the Windows 10 look I will be switching to a ZenFone 2
    prasath1234 likes this.
    04-10-2015 03:29 AM
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