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04-20-2015 12:23 AM
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  1. levelbest's Avatar
    Loaded the TP yesterday and after a day, rolling back to 8.1. Why? The email client. Outlook is just plain bad at this point. Too many features missing, navigation between multiple accounts is awkward at best and notifications in the center aren't all appearing and the tile doesn't show when new messages have arrived. Having one icon for your work and home accounts is a pain as well.

    There are lots of things I'll put up with in a preview - but a mail client that's barely in beta isn't one of them.

    Would have been nice if they had left the original client as an option till more spit and shine was put on Outlook.

    Disappointed at best.
    04-11-2015 07:27 AM
  2. t.mehoves's Avatar
    I like it and have no issues with it thus far.
    04-11-2015 07:40 AM
  3. Don Geronimo's Avatar
    Workflows are priorities in a daily driver and e-mail is really important nowadays. I don't think anyone would blame if someone rolls back to 8.1 if it interrupts their productivity.

    That being said, while it is more awkward to switch between accounts, I rather like it at this stage. Definitely reminds me of Maestro enough to use it until Maestro works on W10.
    levelbest likes this.
    04-11-2015 07:41 AM
  4. cddigi's Avatar
    Yeah, while I understand it's in the early stages and I give it a lot of slack for that, I just have no way of knowing when a new email arrives. At the bare minimum I need notifications saying an account has email waiting for me. It doesn't have to list them out, I just need to know I have mail.
    levelbest likes this.
    04-11-2015 07:55 AM
  5. viky1101's Avatar
    Cant find my gmail client ... Can u guys help plzz??
    04-11-2015 08:04 AM
  6. Don Geronimo's Avatar
    Cant find my gmail client ... Can u guys help plzz??
    If you're looking for it after installing the new Preview, all the e-mail is under Outlook Mail now.

    On another topic, I'm using a 635 and noticed that I had two Outlook Mails in Storage Sense on my phone. Stupidly I deleted one of them, which deleted both of them. Is that happening to anyone else (two Outlooks, that is)? I'm resetting my phone back to 8.1, then back to 10, again, because of that bit of stupid on my part.
    04-11-2015 08:11 AM
  7. levelbest's Avatar
    Yeah, while I understand it's in the early stages and I give it a lot of slack for that, I just have no way of knowing when a new email arrives. At the bare minimum I need notifications saying an account has email waiting for me. It doesn't have to list them out, I just need to know I have mail.
    Overall, I think that was my biggest issue with it. Need to know the mail is there and not just be checking it randomly. This morning, I had 20 emails sitting in my box, but got only one notification in the center, and of course, no live tile. Could have put up with the account switching otherwise.

    Two other oddities - outlook.com wouldn't sync and just kept making me put in my password over and over, and I had what looked to be a phantom email account I couldn't delete filled with numbers and random characters after the upgrade and import of my existing accounts. I normally have four email boxes in all - and it showed 5 with this.
    04-11-2015 08:12 AM
  8. Donald Oaf's Avatar
    I hate it.

    I'm trying to separate my feelings regarding stuff that is just broken at this stage of development (for example, the swype-style keyboard doesn't work when I'm writing an email - I have to peck each letter individually), and design decisions.

    Here are the things I don't like. At this point, some may be design decisions and some may be glitches
    - smaller buttons for reply, refresh, etc
    - all of said buttons are on the top of the screen rather than the bottom. I have a Lumia 1520; this just made my phone a substantially harder to use unless I've got two hands on the device.
    - No live tile updates
    - "push" email doesn't seem to be pushing in a timely fashion (I sent an email to an account that I have on two different phones and it showed up on my android device 22 minutes before it showed on my Lumia)
    - It won't let me have two different Microsoft account inboxes; I've got an old hotmail account and a newer outlook account. It will only let me use the outlook account and won't let me add the hotmail account at all.
    - only one tile for all email accounts combined. really? I like having separate tiles for separate accounts. Yes, I get that I can have a "unified" experience with all email in one tile/app. If I wanted that, I'd have done it with WP 8.1. This REMOVES options and customization; forced homogenization is NOT a good thing.
    - But this matters very little inasmuch as the live tile isn't live anyway (admittedly, this is probably a glitch rather than a design decision, as is that the email tile isn't transparent

    It's worth noting that a lot of the design decisions I don't like (particularly moving the controls to the top of the screen) also infest the Spartan browser.
    sleeve22 likes this.
    04-11-2015 08:19 AM
  9. anon(9057135)'s Avatar
    I love it! Windows Phone 8.1's was really just a client, Where as this is built into the phone.
    04-11-2015 08:50 AM
  10. DCTF's Avatar
    I like it. I'm sure it could be better, but it's a massive improvement over the old one, in my view.

    I immediately took to the page-by-page thing for different accounts, it's reliably informing me via SMS when new mails come in (which I've now turned off, satisfied that it works). I don't feel confused about which page I'm on, given that the header is strong and clear. I see there are a lot of complaints about this from people who feel differently, so the smart thing would be to allow users to split inboxes into separate tiles and separate instances of Outlook if they wish.

    I'm seeing more Times New Roman in some emails than I'd like, which is to say I'm seeing more than none. It looks especially ugly in a smartphone, and I'm surprised that the default stand-in for unknown fonts would not be Segoe UI.
    04-11-2015 09:01 AM
  11. Svyatko Huk's Avatar
    Did anyone manage to add additional outlook.com accounts ? I have 3 outlook accounts and other than my main one the other 2 tell me I need to allow windows phone to access them. Wtf.
    Don't know if that's a known issue, or I need to do a hard reset .
    04-11-2015 09:12 AM
  12. yihong kang's Avatar
    I had some trouble using this new outlook. I like the functionality but not the design. All the buttons are on the top(without a name for each one, I have to try each one), it's really hard to use by one hand.
    I don't know how to select multiple emails either.

    I'll spend more time with it, but can't say I like it at this stage.
    04-11-2015 09:17 AM
  13. petersun21's Avatar
    No notifications, no centralized inbox, not customizable fonts, etc. It is too bad. MS has no sense of urgency
    04-11-2015 09:25 AM
  14. petersun21's Avatar
    Inability to pin inboxes to start is another shortcoming. MS cannot just keep reinventing..
    04-11-2015 09:26 AM
  15. boltman2013's Avatar
    Its great... remember its Mail and Calendar in one universal app

    Swipe right flag
    Swipe left delete

    On Calendar swipe Sunday down to reveal month. Works fine. Sure there are a few bugs but it works.
    Last edited by boltman2013; 04-11-2015 at 09:42 AM.
    04-11-2015 09:26 AM
  16. sleeve22's Avatar
    I prefer the email experience in 8.1 and really hope that it will remain as an option.
    04-11-2015 09:41 AM
  17. michail71's Avatar
    Inability to pin inboxes to start is another shortcoming. MS cannot just keep reinventing..
    This was the big thing I liked when coming over from iOS. I needed my work and personal notifications separate.
    evilrobot likes this.
    04-11-2015 09:44 AM
  18. anon(3463402)'s Avatar
    Loaded the TP yesterday and after a day, rolling back to 8.1.

    Disappointed at best.
    I did the same. Not only with Mail app but I'm disappointed with People, Phone, and Calendar apps too. There are other things I don't like, some related to UI and some to functionality, but Mail, People, Calendar, and Phone apps are awful in my opinion. Yes, I know it's beta... but...
    04-11-2015 10:14 AM
  19. hotphil's Avatar
    I like the look of where it's going, but it really does need the missing functional items finishing e.g. The not being able to return to Inbox from viewing a message.
    Would love to see Search Folders make it there as a feature (guess that would depend on indexing etc).
    04-11-2015 10:18 AM
  20. DreadVenom's Avatar
    For me, I have no issues with the UI, though it could do with a dark theme. UX, some major work needs to be done, the navigation is counterintuitive and the layout is current a step backwards and the action buttons need to be returned to the bottom of the app. Lastly I need individual mailboxes back and Quiet hours integration through calendar.
    Last edited by DreadVenom; 04-11-2015 at 03:33 PM.
    04-11-2015 10:19 AM
  21. hotphil's Avatar
    Just tried Calendar out. Seems OK. Would like the colour bar indication for different Calendars to be more prominent.
    04-11-2015 10:24 AM
  22. Kram Sacul's Avatar
    It's an upgrade in a few ways over 8.1 but overall it's a bunch of steps back especially the look of it. Simple but very bland compared to 8.1. It might as well be the mobile website version of Outlook.com. The hamburger menu and the icons at the top are a total design fail. You just can't shove a tablet UI onto a phone and think it's going to work.

    The only really good thing about it is that it's not finished and can be fixed. I doubt it though.
    04-11-2015 11:01 AM
  23. hotphil's Avatar
    It might as well be the mobile website version of Outlook.com.
    Being a tech preview and not a UI preview, there's lots of scope for change.
    But I'd say having a consistent UI across devices is a good thing.
    04-11-2015 11:05 AM
  24. Joe920's Avatar
    Question, does multi-selection of messages by tapping in the left margin still work?
    04-11-2015 11:07 AM
  25. Mark Kaplan's Avatar
    Im also rolling back my primary 830 to 8.1. Primarily due to Outlook but also due to Band connection issues as well.
    evilrobot likes this.
    04-11-2015 11:35 AM
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