1. ahmad karaki's Avatar
    The new build is outs and the feedback are showing that it is rough to use it because of the major bugs it's showing so I think they should patch them before the next build to make the tp testable
    04-12-2015 04:29 PM
  2. ven07's Avatar
    we should keep in mind that while we love to get updates, the process for building those updates isn't very easy :p If the issues are very drastic the team will attempt to provide an update before the next build :)
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    04-12-2015 04:37 PM
  3. Jas00555's Avatar
    Similar to the way they've handled the desktop previews, they're going to fix these, then break other things with the next build lol
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    04-12-2015 04:48 PM
  4. ahmad karaki's Avatar
    we should keep in mind that while we love to get updates, the process for building those updates isn't very easy :p If the issues are very drastic the team will attempt to provide an update before the next build :)
    Yes but I think they aren't playing fair with the insiders thing they aren't providing the update when its done they are releasing builds and with more than a month between them that's hard to deal with I'm not asking for daily updates but maybe weekly ones they can delay the new features but not the bug fixing
    04-12-2015 04:50 PM
  5. xratola's Avatar
    update avaiable. Don't know what's inside though
    04-12-2015 04:52 PM
  6. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Yes but I think they aren't playing fair with the insiders thing they aren't providing the update when its done they are releasing builds and with more than a month between them that's hard to deal with I'm not asking for daily updates but maybe weekly ones they can delay the new features but not the bug fixing
    The Insider program is for Microsoft's benefit to develop the new OS, not for the benefit of beta testers. If one wants something stable with no bugs, then the Insider program is not for him or her.

    Sent from my Moto X using Tapatalk
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    04-12-2015 04:52 PM
  7. ahmad karaki's Avatar
    update avaiable. Don't know what's inside though
    When did u get it is it after the tp is installed
    04-12-2015 05:08 PM
  8. ahmad karaki's Avatar
    The Insider program is for Microsoft's benefit to develop the new OS, not for the benefit of beta testers. If one wants something stable with no bugs, then the Insider program is not for him or her.

    Sent from my Moto X using Tapatalk
    I'm not asking for full stability but for it being able to be tested
    04-12-2015 05:09 PM
  9. ven07's Avatar
    I'm not asking for full stability but for it being able to be tested
    The only way to achieve this... Apply for a job at MS and even that might not work out lol.

    I get what you want, but that isn't possible. At least not for common users (yes we're common users; the amount of hours you spent on your phone doesn't matter in this case).. Only internal beta testers get the treatment that you are looking for, but they have extra devices for those updates as well (So none of them install it on their main device).

    MS has given us the opportunity to get as close as we'll ever get to being "internal/primary testers". Take or leave it mate :)
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    04-12-2015 05:41 PM
  10. ahmad karaki's Avatar
    The only way to achieve this... Apply for a job at MS and even that might not work out lol.

    I get what you want, but that isn't possible. At least not for common users (yes we're common users; the amount of hours you spent on your phone doesn't matter in this case).. Only internal beta testers get the treatment that you are looking for, but they have extra devices for those updates as well (So none of them install it on their main device).

    MS has given us the opportunity to get as close as we'll ever get to being "internal/primary testers". Take or leave it mate :)
    I know that already but I'm trying to get people attention to let Microsoft realize also that this is what they should do. The main reason is I'm stuck with a notification to install the build and no way to get peace without a hard reset that is why so if I will install it I need it to work not brick my phone
    04-12-2015 05:52 PM
  11. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I know that already but I'm trying to get people attention to let Microsoft realize also that this is what they should do. The main reason is I'm stuck with a notification to install the build and no way to get peace without a hard reset that is why so if I will install it I need it to work not brick my phone
    I'm using it on a device that isn't my primary phone. If it bricks, I'm not concerned.

    Sent from my Moto X using Tapatalk
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    04-12-2015 06:08 PM
  12. xratola's Avatar
    I'm using it on a device that isn't my primary phone. If it bricks, I'm not concerned.

    Sent from my Moto X using Tapatalk
    Same here. This last build is highly unusable even for basic tasks, for that reason is that I have it installed on my old phone, which I only use for giving feedback to MS.
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    04-12-2015 06:20 PM
  13. deadwrong03's Avatar
    To my understanding that's what the slow ring is for more stable builds and bug fixes
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    04-12-2015 06:27 PM
  14. gentry33's Avatar
    I will say this, the minefield that is build 10051 on phones makes the PC builds look like RCs. With the phone you aren't really able to start with a clean install. Provider settings for it function as a communication device are required, even wiping the phone before installing won't clear all the apps if it is carrier locked. Firmware fragmentation by device and carriers also muddies the water.

    One would think with the issues that appear to be plaguing this build bug fixes and workarounds can't be far away.
    04-12-2015 07:23 PM
  15. hotphil's Avatar
    I did a relatively clean install:
    Hard reset
    Set up as new device
    Install Insider
    Update
    Hard reset
    Set up as new device

    Hardly got any of the issues filling this site.
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    04-12-2015 07:52 PM
  16. DaveGx's Avatar
    To my understanding that's what the slow ring is for more stable builds and bug fixes
    Well, we shall see if they even take use of it. In a perfect world, having a Fast and Slow ring, they'd put out weekly updates showing progress, using Fast ring first obviously.

    If it goes another month or worse until an update then the Fast/Slow ring thing was pointless. Hell, even three weeks is too long. No point in having people look for bugs etc if updates are scarce.
    deadwrong03 and ven07 like this.
    04-12-2015 07:52 PM
  17. XXNUZ's Avatar
    This build is rough from a non clean install. Texting doesn't even work for me. Switched my sim card to my old phone (Lumia 900) and use this one for fun. Really, you should just use 10 tp on a non primary device.
    Sent from my green velociraptor running Windows Phone 10
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    04-12-2015 07:54 PM
  18. hotphil's Avatar
    Really, you should just use 10 tp on a non primary device.
    which is why MS say exactly that :)
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    04-12-2015 08:00 PM
  19. michail71's Avatar
    I'm sure there will be some quick turnarounds for this. It's so buggy and unpolished I'm sure they are working hard.
    04-12-2015 09:21 PM
  20. michail71's Avatar
    I did a relatively clean install:
    Hard reset
    Set up as new device
    Install Insider
    Update
    Hard reset
    Set up as new device

    Hardly got any of the issues filling this site.
    Can you open a picture from a text message without crashing the phone?
    04-12-2015 09:22 PM
  21. hotphil's Avatar
    Can you open a picture from a text message without crashing the phone?
    sure can.
    04-12-2015 09:26 PM
  22. Sebastianx's Avatar
    Phone are different from a PC. An OTA update will not fix this issue but will be resolve via new build so probably we are weeks away from a new build highly likely by the end of march since they released 2 builds for the month of march for PC's under the fast ring.
    04-14-2015 08:36 AM
  23. ahmad karaki's Avatar
    They did patch some bug please report how much improvements they offer and specially for the 920
    04-21-2015 06:05 PM
  24. ven07's Avatar
    They patched some yes, but now some apps have troubles updating
    04-28-2015 02:12 PM

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