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Can someone do the math for me? We have a phone that has a 3% share, and you change it's OS and only about 3% of that 3% like it. Where does that leave MS mobile?
If your thinking, doubting or just confused about upgrading to windows 10 for phones, read this review, I tried windows 10, then went back to 8.1, this review sums up how I felt ��
A closer look at the rather rough and not yet ready Windows 10 for phones | Ars Technica
goodbye text is always displayed on left side(slightly upside)not in middle...
Folks, I think we're going to have to get used to the fact that our beloved OS is going to start looking like the competition. It's been 5 years and it hasn't caught on, with or without apps. It's not a defeatist attitude but sometimes you have to know when it's time for a change. I don't know what hamburgers are other than what they sell at McDonald's, but most of you seem to know and that's where Microsoft is looking. Forget the glitches associated with the TP and let's look at the UI. So they went with round thumbnails for contacts, so what? If you don't like it, stay with the People Legacy contacts.
I read the review, and even better, all the comments. I agree with most of the sentiments. What I REALLY wonder from the comment section is how many of those people take the time to give MS the feedback on feature/function complaints? I sure hope the answer is "all of them."
After all it is the apps that make a smartphone
...needing someone with more balanced/better analytical skills I guess.Can someone do the math for me? We have a phone that has a 3% share, and you change it's OS and only about 3% of that 3% like it. Where does that leave MS mobile?
...needing someone with more balanced/better analytical skills I guess.
As someone who installed the Technical Preview to a 521, then bought a brand new Lumia 530 to try it on (due to issues with the 521), and who commented on the Ars Technica article (twice!), the answer is, yes, I did give Microsoft feedback on the current features.
The reported goal is to have Release to Manufacturer for Windows 10 occur in June. The stated goal is to have Windows 10 PC ship this year, which would require the RTM to be no later than the end of the summer. Remember also there are really only two versions of Windows 10: the version with the full desktop that's meant for devices with screens 8" and larger, and the version without the desktop that's meant for devices with screens under 8", including Windows phones.
It's mid-April, and the Technical Preview that Microsoft has released for phones has alpha-test software on it, has broken Office applications, has buggy and missing features. And Release to Manufacturers is only three months away? Really?
As I said in the Ars comments, Windows 10 for your phone really makes it feel like Microsoft can no longer be bothered with phones, and is only continuing to bother with them because they already bought manufacturing from Nokia, and can't afford to appear to no longer be in the mobile business at all. By basically shoehorning in the desktop/tablet OS into the phone, there's little extra development cost. Their primary concern, at this point, is to make sure they keep their enterprise customers happy with their desktop OS, that the tablet features of the OS work with their Surface tablets. Phones and smaller tablets certainly seem to be a lesser concern.
There is no way this can be only three months out. It has a looong way to go yet. Unless there is an internal tested build that is further along there is no way this going to happen in three months.
I beg to differ. When you really stop and analyze it, the iPhone is nothing but an app launcher.
Let me explain before I get skewered.
To me, the definition of a smartphone is what it was a decade ago when they became the new norm: the marriage of a cell phone and a PDA. The Palm Tungstens of the time allowed mobile pros to bang out emails, set up meetings in their calendars, edit Office documents, etc. Then you would sync all your tasks with your PC and send to whomever OR, use your phone as modem (PAM) and send from anywhere.Smartphones were developed to carry just one device.
As a stand-alone device, the iPhone is useless without an internet connection. There's no file manager to store your info. There's no place to save your edited docs since the apps are internet-dependent. You can't even save your work to external storage because Apple has never seen fit to grace their devices with SD storage. Heck, you can't even do a bluetooth file transfer to a PC because Apple devices only do BT FTP with other iOS devices. Can't save your files via USB to your computer because iOS doesn't support USB Mass Storage. No can do with NFC either.
So you see, apps aren't what defines a smartphone. Take away internet connectivity and what can you do with your device? With WP, a heck of a lot more than with iOS and about the same as Android.
There's at least two internal Rings before anything hits Insider Fast. So yes, stuff inside MS is bound to be more advanced.There is no way this can be only three months out. It has a looong way to go yet. Unless there is an internal tested build that is further along there is no way this going to happen in three months.
I beg to differ. When you really stop and analyze it, the iPhone is nothing but an app launcher.
Let me explain before I get skewered.
To me, the definition of a smartphone is what it was a decade ago when they became the new norm: the marriage of a cell phone and a PDA. The Palm Tungstens of the time allowed mobile pros to bang out emails, set up meetings in their calendars, edit Office documents, etc. Then you would sync all your tasks with your PC and send to whomever OR, use your phone as modem (PAM) and send from anywhere.Smartphones were developed to carry just one device.
As a stand-alone device, the iPhone is useless without an internet connection. There's no file manager to store your info. There's no place to save your edited docs since the apps are internet-dependent. You can't even save your work to external storage because Apple has never seen fit to grace their devices with SD storage. Heck, you can't even do a bluetooth file transfer to a PC because Apple devices only do BT FTP with other iOS devices. Can't save your files via USB to your computer because iOS doesn't support USB Mass Storage. No can do with NFC either.
So you see, apps aren't what defines a smartphone. Take away internet connectivity and what can you do with your device? With WP, a heck of a lot more than with iOS and about the same as Android.